select: I was expecting better burst frame rate... 11fps when canon 1dx can do 14fps...when you do sport photography there's a huge difference
still using XQD and CF cards?? I hoped they put SD UHS II slots
no gps and no wifi
no 4k video, no focus peaking and no Zebra
what are you doing Nikon?
Or buy the Panasonic GH4 for 4K video, if you really need it, or a dedicated 4K video camera.
This camera pushes video ability to 1080 60p, so CF Extreme Pro 7 top speed cards offers faster write speeds for large HD video files than top SD UHS 2 and CF considered more reliable and robust for heavy users. Too many reports of SD failures by heavy users for my liking and SD not as fast for Full HD video write speeds. Most full time pros would most likely prefer CF and XQD over SD anyday, I would. My thoughts. D4s camera is not intended for general consumers non-pros, maybe a few will buy, more likely mostly pros buy at this price. D800 and D610 are bought by by both pros and enthusiasts.
JohnEwing: D300s users have been looking forward to a D400 like Christians awaiting the Second Coming. I loved & still love my D300s and would have grabbed an updated version (e.g. with the D7100 sensor) had it appeared in 2012 or last year. But it didn't, so I got fed up waiting and upgraded to a D600, which for me anyway has totally removed any desire for the D400 (not to mention the budget). I suspect a lot of D300s users have done the same thing. I suspect that Nikon sees the "D400" market this way too - i.e. dwindling devotees huddling in a back room while the parade goes by.
I discovered myself that the FF step isn't so expensive. There are lots of older Niion lenses that work beautifully, and some spiffy-but-inexpensive new lenses for full frame which - drop a tear - ain't Nikon.
Considering going from D300s to D610 as well. No camera is perfect, but a really good sensor with reasonably good focusing, maybe not the best AF system, but good enough and works majority of time, goes a long way and sure is useful. Low light advantage trumps best AF system in a budget priced FX camera, despite AF of D7100. Or I may decide on the D800 sometime this year if I decide to spend more. HD Video in a DSLR is also important so DF is out.
goblin: Part of Olympus' ten commandments to their engineers:
... ... ...
- Thou shalt never, EVER, put all the nice goodies on the same camera model !!!
If your clients scream and beg for an on-board flash (even if it's only for using it as an RC commander for slave flashes) - thou shalt give them some ugly, breakage and loss prone external monstrosity.
Thou shalt give a nice, on-board flash only to the mid-tier cameras, which lack the other goodies.
Thou shalt remember how it was done on the E-P3 <> E-PL3 couple ! One came with a touch screen, the other - with an articulated screen and an on-board flash !
Thou shalt remember - NEVER ALL THE GOOD THINGS TOGETHER !!!
My mistake. I see the built in flash. Good work Olympus.
Agreed! Olympus, please reconsider adding in camera flash to the next version of this or the EPL series. One of the best features of my older EPL1, however I really like the new EM10 for all the new modern features. I can live with attaching a flash, but would prefer it coming out from in camera for ultimate convenience. Rest of the new camera is great plus price.
This is great! Better than an EPL5, as it has large EVF and other features such as 3 axis stabilization, plus HD video at 30P, plus titling screen (I know tilt screen is in the others). Not as expensive as EM5. This would be the one to get, for great value and performance. At $699. this camera is ideal for me, or anyone not wanting to spend the price of EM1 or EM5, and wanting a small camera for all day travel use and family that is compact. My bigger DSLRs will be for others uses.
ybizzle: I'm going to assume this will come in around the $499 mark with kit lens. But then the question is, why by this off brand camera vs say a Fuji X-A1 that will most likely yield better IQ and looks better to boot?
If the processor is slower and the image quality in its jpeg engine not as good as Olympus, I would then go with an EPL5. Would like to see reviews after some people actually test the camera. Until then, I will keep an open mind. The camera might actually be fine for consumer use. Maybe not for us more advanced enthusiasts. We will see though when it comes out. Maybe it will be good enough.
If you go on the JK Imaging Kodak site (just google it and go to Press Room bottom of page for 2nd top post Jan. 7) the price with kit lens in their press release is $499. and with a 2 lens kit is $599. Not too expensive for m43 if quality is there in lenses and the sensor, and lenses are Aspherical ED which is marked on the kit.
Would like to see later reviews on AF speed and accuracy, and sample images posted. The sensor at 16MP cmos BSI in press release looks very promising. Definitely targeted after a mid range consumer m43 camera like EPL5 or Pan G6 for example (where body is around the same price range). Regardless, to me the camera looks very interesting with its appearance and if the mount is the same will hopefully take other m43 lenses as well, in case some us want to use our existing ones or third party and thinking of this body.
kimchiflower: A more useful range than most kit zooms, starting at an EFL of 24mm.
This looks to be a pretty cheapo made BY china rather than made IN china camera though. $600 for a twin lens kits? Imagine the price 6 months after launch!
Isn't some of the Olympus Pens made in China. China is certainly capable of making good product, as long as quality control is there.My EPL1 is made in China and works great.
I actually like the camera body design and nice lens bodies of this camera better than the Nikon 1 J series (I know Nikon 1 is not m43 but it is competing with it to a degree in mirrorless) and also like the tilt screen of this new camera. If the sensor and image quality is good enough, and reasonable price, this could get interesting with JK Imaging /Kodak entering m43 arena of cameras out there or ILC in general.
The kit lens of S1 shows Aspheric ED Lens at 12-45mm. After using the collapsible lens of Oly, I stopped using it, and prefer the non-collapsible in other m43 lenses on my EPL. So these lenses I like. I would use primes for short lenses over collapsible ones.
The NX20 body is selling about $729. (link in second paragraph for NX20) This NX30 as an update could be about the same, I imagine, once available. Would make it a possible good alternative over buying a EM5 or Panasonic G for those that want larger APSC sensor at 20MP. Plus Samsung has a few lenses to use, which is also in the link at bottom of that page.Like the rotating screen, and titling EVF, APSC sensor, grip.
Never really liked the small NEX bodies of Sony, as perhaps too small in proportion once lenses are attached. Perhaps only my opinion, but Sony may have been better off using this type of body for its NEX APSC line, as lots of consumers upgrading from P&S still perceive the DSLR (compact or regular DSLR body) and equate with image quality, whether right or wrong. That is how Nikon in entry level, and Canon Rebel market them.
Samsung could sell a lot of these NX30.
Nice to see Samsung with APSC sensor in compact body ILC DSLR like form. This is what Nikon should be offering with APSC sensor, not just the fabulous FF sensor (DF) version. Nikon will likely make one, just a matter of time. Sony should make a version like this in APSC sensor with thin compact ILC body (interchangeable lens), not just FF. My thoughts anyway.
Good to see, Samsung is already offering this one in NX30. Good job.
The Sony 7 looks very sharp and detailed (with the Zeiss lens used) as does the Canon. Is it that Nikon default sharpening setting in camera is too low for jpegs. I usually set my D700 to "3" sharpen level when doing jpeg setting and a touch more in post. That is evaluating the jpegs.
However in Raw the results from Nikon DF look much better overall in the higher iso. Colour and noise looks closely matched up to 1600 iso on all 4. However at 3200 and 6400 the Nikon DF (with D4 sensor) clearly looks better in Raw with far less colour noise over other cameras. I evaluated the portrait photo of the black man on the right and this clearly shows. The other 3 cameras with higher MP show their strengths in amount of more detail over 16MP though. All cameras perform relatively well, choice of lenses you buy will be the deciding factor which way to go, and size of body/performance factors, I think anyway.
rallyfan: Except this "protest issue" isn't relevant.
Newspapers aren't going to start printing issues without photographs.
They're going to start printing issues without photographs from "photographers" and "photojournalists."
The argument whether "anybody can take that picture!" is moot. We will soon enough see whether anybody (a) can and (b) will "take that picture."
The answers will invariably be "yes" and "yes" to those questions.
Prepaid subscriptions to newspapers with better looking images may mean more sales to those that still use photographers.Then again, many of us are getting our news from websites or TV, and not bothering to read papers anymore or buy them, except once in awhile.
CameraLabTester: It will take more than a Roger Cicala to convince the customers to even glance at the D610 and gain respect and trust, after the D600 fiasco.
A lot of people I imagine wanted to buy a D600, but held off due to the issues. Nothing to hold them back now, as camera has a clean bill of health, especially by the "lensrental"review assessment in this article.
Although I tried the trial (2.0 of Capture NX) and liked the software (for some of its unique features), the menu layout made editing large volume of images far too slow. They need to examine the other leading raw editors, and improve their their menu layouts/feature structure, so changes can be made more quickly, if they dedicate the design resources to improve it. What's much better: Lightroom, DXO Elite Pro, Capture One, Aperature...etc. at least in my opinion. Your opinion may differ.Nikon, please revamp your menu layout/features for next version 3.0.
Getting better all the time and good resolution. Lots of compacts are still better. Certainly advanced compacts with 1/1.7 sensors are much better. The 1/2 inch sensor compacts are somewhere in the same range as the LG G2, although with image stabilization in low light, this phone could exceed some small compacts out there which could blur in low light. Not bad for a phone with limited lens. Lots of young people, with smart phones have no intention in buying a compact camera ever these days. My wife is now one with a iphone happily snapping away as its convenient and always with her. She still uses the Panasonic LX5 sometimes.
Adrian Van: Sales just went up for the D610 after any potential buyers read this review from lensrentals, especially for anyone on the fence on whether to buy (...or rent from lensrentals).
Did not want a D600 because of issue. Now back on my consideration list for next purchase for D610, to upgrade from my D300s once I sell D300s privately. I need the great low light IQ of D610 more than the AF speed of a D300s, plus HD video nice to have.
DF is not even being considered for me, too pricey, and lacking some D610 features like video.
Yes, also considering the D800, as the video interface features are better than D610 from what I read. I already have the lenses, so Canon is not being considered. I know they also have good video.
The only advantage of D610 is lighter body for travel, otherwise D800 is superior for most pros, I know.
Segaman: Interesting, i,m going to think twice about buying Nikoń´s D600, maybe just going to wait or get in the meanwhile a D7100
Discount not enough between D600 or D610, if having to deal with the issue or potential issue. Unless maybe you are buying a low priced used D600 or refurbished with greater price difference and replaced shutter. If someone is putting down that much money (full price) for a body, most would rather not have to deal with issues for that cost.