Nice job guys. Seeing you sitting there in front of all those cameras made me feel better about being a gear-head.
However my niece now has a serious crush on Barney. I think she's starting a fan club on Facebook.... ;-)
"Excited to announce" is such a wonderful corporate euphemism. I don't think I ever remembered anyone outside marketing using words like that.
"Trepidation" is much more on the mark. That exactly how I felt right up to any announcement date ;-)
Stefanie: Which part of "I'll never rent" didn't they get?
When the figure out the actual price most people will rent at they will realise they can make more money out of selling it again...
DenisBBergeron: I don't want to rent something, I want to own it.
Well thank Gimp, Google and Apple I can own other software.
True, but they cannot disable the software remotely if I don't keep paying for it. I only have to upgrade when I move to a new system on which it is not supported - like every five years.
mgatov: The reality is that with the proliferation of cell phone cameras, there is always someone on the scene to take a picture... whether it is a natural disaster or an accident, or even a war. As long as there are people present, there will be pictures available.
A snapshot or video of an actual event is worth a lot more than a posed editorial after the event. Papers can still hire agency photographers or buy pics from Reuters if they want an "insertion" picture, but that's for ongoing situations. For much of the news it's simply not possible to have someone on the scene.
This is a direct result of the emergence of smartphones, meaning for any event happening anywhere in the world about 100 people are going to be shooting it. Just look at youtube.
I may not like it much either, but c'est la vie. I don't see papers hiring a lot of typesetters these days either..
JackM: Wow. a7R = the new king of res this side of $10,000.
And rapidly get so heavy you may as well have a DSLR, and get tracking AF that works as well. Little point in shrinking a camera if you can't shrink the lenses, and when you do you lose speed and hence make the whole thing slightly pointless unless you just want a nice light landscape camera. Which is fine of course.
Ken Johnes: 500 $ for a silly firmware upgrade? and the target audiance for this camera have been waiting eagerly for this AF upgrade . wow, greed and trying to milk it´s customers with incremental upgrade are gonna hurt the big dogs here, both of em, look at what nikon is trying to do.
i think nikon and canon are competing with each other on how to sell less for more, while other companies are making innovative products at a fair price , no wonder these greedy top dogs have to make up for their loss with such silly act..
A firmware upgrade that quite possibly resets the entire AF system and requires complete recalibration.
There does seem to be a lot of control duplication (two control wheels and a mode dial plus all the other new dials). All the extra controls don't actually seem to buy you any simplicity.
It's still a little bulky (though lighter). The rear plate makes no concessions to the retro appeal and it looks completely out of place. The grip is also a rather odd retrograde step. Cameras like this beg for accessories, and a tailor made accessory grip would have enabled the camera to retain a more traditional "look", both with and without. Not allowing interchangeable VF screens also seems mean at this price, as does the lack of a VF blackout curtain.
I think if they had made a bit more effort to appeal to traditionalists as well as hipsters it would have wider appeal. An odd set of compromises IMO which rather misses the mark and leaves it lacking any rational appeal. It's purely an emotional purchase and a missed opportunity I think.
njkdo: Sorry, what are we talking about?
So? Retro sells and Nikon is a business. If you don't like it there's three other FF models to choose from which look reasonably ugly and have the ISO button in a really dumb place.
jon404: It looks sort of like an old Nikon, but works like a new one? So -- the only reason to buy is an external packaging change? Who cares?
Seems to work for car companies.
Is this why so many people on DPR want a tilt screen LCD?
57even: At last D700 users have a "true" replacement with the sensor of the pro model and top rate low light capability. Nice that they also made it a bit more interesting to look at than another amorphous black blob, and I also like the subversiveness of dropping the video mode (which I have never used except to check it worked).
Clear that Nikon are focusing more on demographics now, not just spec sheets. This will be very popular with more "mature" photographers I think, as well as some well heeled hipsters. If it sells well (a 16MP FF camera without video) it will say a lot about prevailing assumptions and may spring a raft of imitations.
Whatever anyone thinks, looks sell product. Any product. This seems to be something that has only recently occurred to Japanese camera companies. Retro chic is of course only one of many directions, but it's had a major impact on the car and motorcycle market, and the X100 proved it can work for cameras too.
The D700 didn't have the D3x sensor either, it had the lower resolution one. DxOMark is no the bible.
No-one needs a replacement unless their camera is broken. But the D4 sensor is a big improvement on the D3. If you don't need 36MP...
X100 is not "just" about retro chic. I said it's helps sell cameras. I had one and it had plenty of faults, but it sold well. Yes, the IQ was good, but the RF styling and VF helped make up for the performance issues.
At last D700 users have a "true" replacement with the sensor of the pro model and top rate low light capability. Nice that they also made it a bit more interesting to look at than another amorphous black blob, and I also like the subversiveness of dropping the video mode (which I have never used except to check it worked).
Sorry, I mean there is nothing in this camera in which I am remotely interested. Your mileage may differ.
Shame they can't use all that profit to make something interesting.
Because Canon seem to be relying entirely on existing customer loyalty to sell new cameras. This is not a good strategy IMO.
57even: Just comparing the photo of the Xe2 and the D5300 - not to mention the new Sony's - leaves me wondering why the hell everyone else finds camera styling so hard. KISS seems to work for Fuji, just as it worked for Leica for 60 years.
The new PEN and GX7 are finally in the ballpark after a run of ugly sisters. But most DSLRs simply look misshapen and ugly by comparison. Curves are out, edges are back in, get with the program.
Seemingly Pentax are the only people who know how to make a DSLR look smart.
Interesting comments some missing the point. There will always be people that don't care, and some people who have no aesthetic sense anyway, but in general, style sells. Apple proved it, not that it needed proving. It's even worth a premium if done well. Again, Apple proved it.
All cameras with a decent sized sensor take excellent pictures so style is a differentiator. As long as it's functional it can be retro (PEN EP5, Fuji) or modern minimalist (RX100). All stylish cameras.
Every up-market Canon SLR looks pretty much like the T90. A design approaching it's 27th birthday already. Not retro? Only because they never deviated.
Nikon and Canon survive on badge and product recognition. Other makers don't have that luxury. They are trying to attract mainstream buyers away from the big 2. They can only match them on IQ, so that means putting a bit of effort in on the style front.
Just good business.
Just comparing the photo of the Xe2 and the D5300 - not to mention the new Sony's - leaves me wondering why the hell everyone else finds camera styling so hard. KISS seems to work for Fuji, just as it worked for Leica for 60 years.
mcshan: I'd rather keep my X-E1 and get the 23mm if it ever comes out.
I agree. I think the IQ will be all but the same, so no point in upgrading for me. However the Xpro2 is more likely to raise the bar somewhat.
austin55: Fuji is a innovative company that also has the humility and customer appreciation to listen. Something Canon and Nikon quit doing long ago. I have my last Nikon DSLR shoot next Saturday, and then it goes on the block. This will be my next purchase without hesitation. It is what people like Zack Arias, David Hobby, and Trey Ratcliffe have already recognized. Bigger, heavier and more expensive, is not better (for many applications) any longer. Nikon and Canon are becoming dinosaurs and unless they change, are headed down the path toward extinction, (at least in market share.) Sony, Fuji, Panny and Oly are much more innovative these days.
@marike6All of which is quite irrelevant to the normal consumer, unless they want to bask in the reflected glory of the top end bodies. Most mid range and low end SLRs are far less functional and perform at a far lower level than the top end.
Comparing an X-e2 with a D4 is kind of pointless.