the new test chart is a stupid one ...
rfstudio: Canon...canon...the shape is just getting uglier
... and feels bad in hand! Cramped body, no space between grip and lens, smaller buttons, unusable 8-way controller. poc! The screen is the only one to mention as a plus. I am amazed of how much discussion is around different aspects of IQ (not stellar anyway) when something much more basic as handling is passed.
Gentlemen reviewers, can you please let us know which one of you was the (obviously poet, rather not sober reviewer) that wrote "Shooting with the Canon EOS 70D, I felt right at home. I've owned a 20D, and even so many models removed, the 70D still seems familiar. It works the way I like to..." ? I think that your 20D is turning in it's grave.Shawn, you trickster ... that's you, isn't it? So, if we take your review as honest, although rather worse, it is still better ... yous should be a politician!Thanks to God ... or chance ... or local management there are so few of your reviews since 2007.
IQ ... Tried it in some less than optimal light conditions ... Images are all but sharp, even perfectly in focus, with the new Sigma 18-35, which is sharp in itself, and this in more than one shot. The sensor technology of Canon, coupled with whatever AA screens they use kills all the fine details. Why then so many Mpix? (I know why! To allow downsizing of picture to get a sharp 10MPix!).Not that would be able to judge with the all smudged up new set-up of test scene of DP, that is so great to confuse anything but the phone camera users.Direction Canon has taken with this xxD line, since 50D, and lack of listening to (at least some of) its' consumers is going to support it's constant slide. OK. Now I have it out of my system :-) Let us see if the great minds of Canon can produce a decent 7D mkII or if I really need to either stay satisfied with my old 40D or move to a different system.
Fanboys gathered to bring flowers to the new Canon muse ... Laughable. How many of the these ... actually touched, held and shot this camera? I did so. Dpreview rated ergonomics as excellent. I beg to differ big time: tiny buttons and especially wheels, unusable 4-way selector, cramped body and ultra-cramped hand hold ("sir, you should buy a grip"). The mobile screen is the only good thing to say about the ergonomics. Fit anything but a small and cheap lens and it will fall on it's nose.One question though, all these people asking for smaller cameras are just pygmies with recently acquired internet connections or terminally weak exemplars of our species? Since when a few ounces of body should sacrifice even a basic thing as holding properly a camera. Unless you buy to keep it on a shelf and show to friends. To a similar comment, a gentleman (of debatable wit) suggested to hold it with the tips of the fingers.
NancyP: The 60D and 6D are reasonably sized and have lighter bodies than their more expensive brethren. As for balance, my 400mm f/5.6L balances just fine on the 60D, and my Sigma 35mm f/1.4 feels great with the 6D.
Dear T3, Yes, if you're 5'7" you can always get into larger clothes. You convinced me, from the height of your adaptability (and possession of a large friend with a 650D) that you're truly stupid. Adaptable one.
"reasonably" is a pretty subjective term ... unreasonable is to develop a camera for children, women and small (asian?) men, all small handed. unreasonable is when the space between the lens and the grip is so small you scratch the lens every time you grab the camera and you need to strain your fingers on too small wheels or try to reach buttons that are too close or awkwardly positioned, without dropping the camera.but I respect that, from your standpoint, a small camera works. Good shooting!
Alec_c: Amazed how many fallen on their asses for the dual diode pixel. Good for filming, maybe good when shooting - still to be seen. After a good treatment from Canon in plastic bodies and intentionally crippled cameras (see 60D, 6D), apparently no one remembers what the xxD line stood for: prosumer/semi-pro quality and performance, solid build and excellent ergonomics. What we get with this is good if you're tiny and with child hands - a camera just barely bigger than an entry level, made so tiny as no place to put one button more or a audio jack, and all plastic build, now norm. Been waiting to replace my 40D for so long I got spiderwebs on my wallet. And apparently these will grow thicker as good it may be then new camera is unusable ... unless you keep it with the fingertips. And of course, use only light, entry level lenses so it does not fall onto it's nose.I have also looked in the samples from Canon website ... nothing spectacular.Let's see what DP will tell us in their review.
Ca bine zici! 7D was everything I wanted, less the sensor and maybe an articulated screen. Actually not even the sensor is bad, bad is the AA filter. Considered buying one and HotRod-ing it but that got too expensive compared to a 5D. I was ready to spend the money since 50D showed up (not enough improvement and poor IQ) then no chance during the 18MP reign, felt completely let down by the 6D ...Will wait for the 7DMkii but I'm sure Canon will manage to cripple that one too (I bet no articulated touch screen, single card, no DIGIC 6 but twin 5, let's see what their mind will cook-out ).
Andy G: Canon 70D - One Trick Pony
As a videographer, I can’t wait to test the 70D’s new “Revolution in Autofocus” with my sweet Zeiss ZE lenses. Oops, Zeisses are manual focus ... oh well, maybe next time.
At least I’ll have the benefit of superior low light performance - after all, it was a few months back when Canon rolled out a promo video touting the advancements of their “Digic 6 Processor” -- oh gee, the 70D doesn’t have Digic 6 - still a Digic 5+ ... oh well, maybe next time.
Canon’s banner headline for the 70D “Shoot Video Like a Camcorder”! Great - just what I’ve been wanting to do and since all camcorders have Headphone Jacks, I’m sure Canon (after 4 years) has finally included one - No? ... oh well, maybe next time.
Certainly Canon has listened to its customer base and included a feature that all videographers want, professionals need and is found on Canon’s consumer line: Vixia HFG30, Vixia HFG20 ... Dual Card Slots - Yes. No? ... oh well , maybe next time.
howard, Andy is totally entitled to be disappointed as a videographer (as I am as a photographer :-)). Each of us is entitled to an opinion and attacking or criticizing someone for his/hers is not very mature and not nice at all.As an example: what if someone would comment to you "what do you know about SLR while shooting with a pocket camera and showing roughly a picture for 1000 comments?" Hope no one does that ... would not be nice. What do you say?
Photomonkey: Sounds great but the proof is in the pictures. I do believe that the operational improvements (if they are as good as advertised) will be a huge step forward.
... bad no, maybe just mediocre ... see all 18MP series ... Looking for the samples coming from Canon I do not feel envious at all.
Amazed how many fallen on their asses for the dual diode pixel. Good for filming, maybe good when shooting - still to be seen. After a good treatment from Canon in plastic bodies and intentionally crippled cameras (see 60D, 6D), apparently no one remembers what the xxD line stood for: prosumer/semi-pro quality and performance, solid build and excellent ergonomics. What we get with this is good if you're tiny and with child hands - a camera just barely bigger than an entry level, made so tiny as no place to put one button more or a audio jack, and all plastic build, now norm. Been waiting to replace my 40D for so long I got spiderwebs on my wallet. And apparently these will grow thicker as good it may be then new camera is unusable ... unless you keep it with the fingertips. And of course, use only light, entry level lenses so it does not fall onto it's nose.I have also looked in the samples from Canon website ... nothing spectacular.Let's see what DP will tell us in their review.
JimSab: I think most of the people on this thread need to go back to English class.. I can't take anyone's comments seriously when they can't spell properly.
That's my main issue with these cameras, the users, it's not the cameras fault if you're taking shitty pictures!
Humbly suggest you run a spell-check on your own message. And can you please share some picture with us? Any picture?
Alec_c: In a nutshell, a camera that might have been great but put down on purpose, that has the ability to take some great pictures if you can overcame handling difficulties, which should not been there.Overall, that Canon smart samurai so full of himself (see pic of his interview) , should really be proud looking how a universe of Canon users continue to support his nice life of leaking on our heads. There will be people to buy that, as there were ones buying the 60D, which is a similar concept. Not me.
I suggest you try them both. I did it.
I was waiting for a replacement for my 40D for a long while. 50D had good prospects, IQ was a disappointment, no good reason to change to that. Then the 60D came and was such a let down, then 7D with the murky image quality, apart from being an excellent package. The 6D might have been the one for me but no, Canon decided to push the profit and try to cheat me off. Good reason to be so sour. I need better high ISO performance, better IQ than my old sensor, high framerate and would love to have an articulated screen and the best finder. And, as an amateur, cannot afford the >3K 5DMkiii.
Tested it with the 24-105 and compared with the 40D which I use. Grip is too small and distance to lens as well small you do not get enough hold, unless you strain your hand - you get fast tired. I know this is subjective still my wife tried the camera as well and deemed the old 40D better to hold.
In a nutshell, a camera that might have been great but put down on purpose, that has the ability to take some great pictures if you can overcame handling difficulties, which should not been there.Overall, that Canon smart samurai so full of himself (see pic of his interview) , should really be proud looking how a universe of Canon users continue to support his nice life of leaking on our heads. There will be people to buy that, as there were ones buying the 60D, which is a similar concept. Not me.
3) planned and well executed gelding: no mobile screen, less direct controls (especially taking out the stick controller), no flash remote control (unless you pay to add external), simplified auto focus, lowered framerate4) addition of useless gimmicks like GPS and Wi-Fi. I have read a couple idiotic comments that you can use your mobile phone as a screen. Unless blessed with additional hands, I wonder how they manage to direct the camera, zoom on subject and operate the rest of controls and focus and shot. Unless they take pics of their own ... legs. I think that most of these guys try to impress us letting us know they have smartphones and tablets. And, anyway, both GPS and Wi-Fi could have been added if and when needed. BTW, the option of not having these is priced by Canon at just 50 USD/EUR, which is a spit in the eye.
The comments here veer a lot from essential: how 6D is in itself. Apart from the IQ that is definitely better than any APS-C of Canon, the overall experience (yes, I have briefly shot with 6D) is poor: 1) small body with poor holding ergonomic (I just wonder - and feel pity - about the tiny hands and weakened muscles of the ones who praise it's smallness and lightness).
2) plasticky and frail feeling of the plastic clad on mag-alloy frame body
I would say that pushing by canon of the FF over APS-C is mainly to their technical inability to develop in that direction. Not that it is not possible - see Sony - but rather THEY cannot do that. The argument is the less than great (see respective dpr reviews - from a time when they were running such instead of mobile-phone and stick on lenses news) performance of the whole 18/19MP sensor line (600, 650, 60, 7)
No real answers my APS-C shooter questions: will Canon be able to came with a APC-C better sensor (than the murky one in 7D and 6x(x)D line) and when they will replace 7D (or will they came with an consistent improvement over 60D)... Associating the cripple 6D with semipro in the same sentence, puahhh ... 6D is all hype and no use, cramped and crippled. Canon has no respect for my wishes and I reward them with my (closed) wallet. And weep over my 4 years old camera that loses breath @ISO 1600 and a bag of lenses. And all this M discussion is a distraction. Still, it may be even worse, Canon starting in phone business ...