ShoppingBoy: Great pictures. Gotta say that I've seen 'em all before. Can we say "cliche'?"
Oh BS. That primate shot is awesome. Credit where credit is due. It hits all the bases. So many good things about that shot and it's one of a kind in its uniqueness.
P.S. We are not "evolved" from any primate or non-man animal. The question is are you evolving in Spirit or just the most typical atrophy with the following mutation.
Hero1: Thanks for the review. This surely is a nice PaS camera but the price will turn away many potential buyers. I would have liked to see them included an external charger instead of having to buy one separately. And like others who have commented before me, this camera would have been even better with environmental sealing. Let's hope that they improve on those areas for the RX100V.
By stupid forum above, I meant any Internet one. Not the site but whatever these comment things really are. WHO KNOWS? Are you sure?
Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate LOATH that price. :)
It's so exiting to see this combo as the top value including the price on the body, adapter and lenses yielding all that high IQ and other advantages. Right? Right?
That was very well concluded and very clear.
I wonder that more compression is another con of excessive mega "pixes". Not that perfect and numerous pixels wouldn't be better; but they are not perfect and to differing degrees per sensor and the total output.
Neodp: You know if you would learn to set ufraw with your cam's ufraw-profile (simple) loaded up, just one time then you would not have these problems.
Don't look now when Win 10 puts unwanted adds in your menus and you can't stop it. Welcome to closed software. Big bro will tell you EXACTLY what you can and can't do. Not a problem. Enjoy your preference. Apple is WORSE.
Have fun faining lawlessness and getting slavery.
I brought the X100T RAF sample right up in ufraw X-Trans interpolation with no problem. One click on auto exposure fix and one click on my installed (go to) Gimp button and I can auto-compression-rate JPEG export to final product or first apply any treatment known to man.
Just download the "dcraw" program, set as my right-click choice to pull embedded JPEG's immediately(in selected batches), no developing (1920x1280 in this cam for proofing or your raw not needed final) + ufraw (SELECT Full res dev of Raw) + ufraw's goto_Gimp button program/utility + The Gimp editor + MANY Gimp plug-ins (ones you need) and all theses are free multi OS platformed.
You know if you would learn to set ufraw with your cam's ufraw-profile (simple) loaded up, just one time then you would not have these problems.
What all this new technology lacks is building a better photographic "mousetrap".
Stills, Video, Carry, Value. Form and function.
Today that would be APS-C based. But we do not have one with all the above!
Marty CL: I recently bought the first generation E-M10 and I love it. The EVF is very clear and shows the continue improvement in the technology. I find the auto focus satisfactory for my needs and the camera body is both compact and lightweight (but the body feels very sturdy). I also currently own a Nikon D610 which gives me suburb pictures--but the body is quite chunky and heavy (but I love the full frame sensor results)--but it is too heavy to carry on walking trips or for sight seeing.
There really is no longer such thing as an "all around camera" --different cameras for different needs and situations. But mirrorless is definitely making inroads to DSLRs. The truth of the matter that the small camera companies (at least those with smaller market share) innovate in the mirrorless area because THEY HAVE TO---in order to stay relevant.
But sooner or later, the DSLR titans Canon and Nikon will have to deal with this new technology in a serious way--"innovate or perish".
iPhone the all-arounder?. ROTFLMAO
I get that it's in your pocket; but then what? Better the 4x6 you would not otherwise have, I guess.
Cell phones are not the problem with modern cam design. Lack of comprehensive combined and balanced photographic benefits (stills and video) including carry and value is the problem.
[This cam is SLIGHTLY moving that way]
My big fat wallet does no thinking for me. None at all. If it did then I could probably spend more than you and on camera equipment. But since this is a stupid forum then that's not bragging. The point is I can "afford" to buy and can buy a $10,000 set; if I pleased. I do not. The camera market is ridiculous.
Then there's that "we". Because... I know the world does not revolve around me. If I get a "killer" deal and less than ever, comparably seen; then that's still no guarantee it is wise. Especially for future camera prices.
"If you build crap... they will come." :)
Yes but does buying in itself make wise men? What if fools buy amiss? What then? Are we making the best affordable camera possible?
Neodp: Summary: Sony is really making better; but still inferior enough to question a pocket camera in the first place.
Can we not build a m43 or better APS-C based high quality fixed lens pocket cam that's also affordable?
Are we so tele stupid; to see we best use our feet more with pocket cams? How about a 85mm eqiv (50mm on APS-C, 45mm on m43) fast PRIME with cheap wide-angle (moderately) lens cover? What can't you do with that.
Isn't one better off with an SL1 and 40mm STM right now? It's not that much bigger. (But granted why doesn't Canon make those better in mirror-less??)
The problem is a willingness to put real comprehensive (photographic) quality into one manageable and yet affordable camera system. Flash and great video included.
Untill you are no longer willing to *not* pick your disadvantage (big ones) as you pick the camera and it's lens; that you choose to take along with you then they will never make it.
Credit for stepping a tiny bit that way... acknowledged.
ufraw and no fees or tiers. Ongoing free and improved.
If anyone wants to know how photography is done most wisely, which gear advice, and even with (really) free software to you (not from me) forever and that's second to none... (Including ways always shooting Raw with zero to almost no dev time still producing the best of all worlds) then I can not possibly fit all that here! You have specific needs in these areas. You can contact me one on one if you please.
Babka08: Every comparison it seems that people make in this post are for larger or much, much larger cameras. The comparisons to apsc or 4/3 cameras is also telling, simply because the RX100 is even in the comparison bench. Folks, it is tiny. Nothing comes close. The review is bang on. I'll be upgrading from my mk 1 to this sometime fairly soon. The viewfinder itself is a significant reason.
Yes it really makes me think sometimes; that all the various manufactures can not make a simple benefit list and don't know how to major on the majors. Even accounting for not being able to please everyone should still be able to produce better. Because if you center on total IQ, carry, the flash and ease of photo taking tasks then how different would the list really be?
Neodp: Tattoos that can wash off are just silly. Permanent ones are just wrong and that's Bible folks. That does not mean God will not forgive you. It means that He says do not mark up (yes or even puncture) your body; even to commemorate the dead. No this doesn't mean we shun people for it Nor that they can't receive heaven. It means your body is God's art work (though we sometimes see the genetic decay or mutation of death) and it's not a permanent canvas for our creations. As the picture shows, the faded "art" is not comparable to beautiful the woman. Not hardly. This is like your kid redoing a Rembrandt. Just stop it. It's not a good thing. It thumbing your nose at God and His creation and that will not end well.
Also you're saying, "Yes, Easter bunny is just as well justified creator as any god of any religion.", is (indicative of) your RELIGION. Logically you must therefore accept your false religion. Your lie is saying you have no beliefs or "religion". That's an absolute. Your master is the lier. I was trying to tell you there's NOTHING God will not forgive and that means loving you back into communication with Him(The Truth), except refusing to unwrap His Gift "under" the "Christmas tree". You are responsible for seeking, by your gift of choice and if you refuse to do that... then you know exactly your issue. If you continue to prefer lies over truth then you will destroy yourself.
Matthew 13:13-16 ESV >
This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says: “‘You will indeed hear but never understand, and you will indeed see but never perceive. For this people's heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.’ But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear. ---John 8:43 ESV >
Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.
munro you just made a moral judgment; that you said not to do. If you were as you said, only an observer of society then that's also saying you're antisocial. I put it to you... Should we trust anyone who is not, 'true to thyself'? Fight for the truth. Not lies. Else who is your master? You are free to choose deathly thinking and die forever. I'm asking you to live in truth.
A. Overprices might not sell well; because they are overpriced. Especially when you can get more overall benefit elsewhere.
B. See? Getting a different cam for every task can target better; but that gets overpriced and so is no value. That tends to make a photographer good at nothing. Except testing perhaps.
C. The GR is smaller and I was saying the SL1 is a better overall camera. I did not say it was perfect. One may well prefer a D3300.
D. Cell phone cams can work but don't well.
Yeah I know the RX100 line can't do all; but it doesn't sound like many agree. Price can change fact too you know. If the thing were $100 then I'm all in. See you probably think that's impossible; but you don't realize that's because you are being conditioned. Really. You could say no the price is what the price is; but you can see that's not true can't you? If you thinking they could make a profit and still a huge one then that's not true either.
Then hitaus I'd say you need to learn how to study. Not to mention humor. Relatively speaking you should generally known better. Do you know what time it is? Universally stated you should know science now screams the expanding cosmos (as the Bible has clearly stated for sixteen centuries) is very much proved to not be an accident. Inextricably tied to our cradle of life.The Earth and us to them both. So you have 3 proved by math (statistical rules) EXTREMELY non-random connections making everything ludicrously not random and by far. Whom do you suppose created all this? The Easter bunny? Get a clue. Your so called "education" is your excuse for BAD thinking. Change your mind man. All things are impossible accept through Christ.
1 Corinthians 10:21 (NIV)
21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons.
SSantana75 The GR is a close option if you like wide. But camera are so many things. Once you get some stuff right then others are missing. It's not all physics either. Intellectual Property BS is worse than physics limits. These are not really physics problems. They are not making a BETTER total camera. Including total value.
I guess we've separated the men from the boys (Ladies from the girls), at least. You're either all in with the Bible or you're not. If you think freedom is anti-Bible then you're in for a very rude outcome. You can be a slave and not know it. Now think about what I just said and that it's love. If you don't get that then there's not a lot a of time left to learn. All things are forgivable, accept not accepting forgiveness.