A friend of mine just bought the A7, so I tried out my old Nikon 85mm F2 that I've been using with a Nex C3 for a while now. It works great on the A7. Not sure why anyone would be complaining.
I have a C3 and I love it. It's like a frat party where you can BYOG (bring your own glass).
No support for Nex-7?
Ok. No bokeh?
Oh, sweet. I've always wanted to turn my 24 mm AI-S lens into a 65 mm slightly-longer-than-normal lens with a strange wide-angle perspective. Not.
Wake me up when Zeiss makes a fast 16 mm prime for the NEX.
JackM: As a DSLR and film shooter, I appreciate fast primes, but I have to wonder why anyone would buy this when they can have 28mm at f/2.0, plus zoom to 105mm, plus HD video in a smaller package, the wonderful S95. Maybe if this lens was f/1.6 or f/1.4, but as it is... man it's a tough sell. I'd like to see this camera reviewed for IQ side-by-side with the S95, XZ-1, and LX-5. Maybe the X100 too. I suppose if the IQ blows the zooms out of the water I might be interested.
28 mm is not really wide enough. The LX5 (and now S100) is more useful going to 24 mm.
tkbslc: Do people love the 28mm equiv prime? It seems really wide for a camera like this. Maybe it is just me, but I think something around 35-45mm would have wider appeal, especially considering how many compacts already zooms AND a fast 28mm end.
28 mm is not wide enough, as far as I'm concerned. 24 mm is much more useful.
24mm is now "ultra-wide"? Anyway, at least, there is finally a bit of competition for the LX5 end of the consumer market. The LX5 has a significantly faster lens at the portrait end, but it looks like the Canon might be a bit more pocketable, for those whom that matters more.
The rangefinder didn't replace the SLR. The Nikon FM/FE didn't replace the F3/4/5/6. There's going to be a place for the DSLR as long as people want to shoot with really great wide-angle and telephoto primes.
Jens_G: What's wrong with 24-70? they could've made the sensor bigger if they'd cut down on the zoom.
I would have liked 24-90, just like the LX5. Apparently, we're the only ones here who don't think 28 mm is wide enough. Guess Fuji did their market research.
So close to being the ideal P&S camera. If they could have just made the wide angle 24 mm. :\
Color Blotch: So basically for $750 you get an lx5 with 28-84mm equiv lens and effective aperture of f1.7-2.5, plus blazingly fast zoom, snappy autofocus, as well as the ability to change lenses (and bodies). Where do I sign?
You don't get an LX5. An LX5 goes from 24-90, so it's actually more useful on both ends.
EvanZ: Damn, if it was just a 1/1.7" sensor, I would love this camera!
If you think 24x is that important...
A not-so-wide wide-angle that is slow to boot? Sign me up. :\
Damn, if it was just a 1/1.7" sensor, I would love this camera!
This is the very definition of a consumer camera, a money grab if you will. I'm just not sure this is where the money is. Panasonic is probably making more money selling the LX5 to the enthusiast/prosumer crowd. Nikon, wake up!
Louis Dallara: Well, First I'm a Nikon fan boy, and I have 20k DLSR's to prove it..so what do I use for a P&S ? My story.. I sold my CP5700 and started shopping, bough a CoolPix S8100, but sold it, no raw, couldn't live without raw. The S8100 was big anointment, looked at the P7000 held it shot with it, tried Canon S95, nice camera.. But tied of waiting for Nikon and went with The LX5 it wasn't first love and need some TLC from a Panny Pro, with one email from Dez he shot with the LX3-5 for years I was set. I really happy with camera and sometimes chose it over my D700, so I not sure whats up with Nikon, are they sleeping? I wonder if it got a another new NEF format.
Louis, see my post below. You nailed it exactly. (I'm a Nikon guy too.)
psandham: EvanZ - you're right about the LX5 which is why I'm really disappointed about the latest Nikon releases. I just don't get a slow 28mm lens on something new...
My guess is that for most consumers, 28-200 looks a lot better than 24-100, but most enthusiasts would probably rather have the latter, because of the true wide angle.
My two most important lenses are 24 mm and 105 mm fast primes. If I'm bringing a third lens, it's a 300 mm, and even more rarely a 50 mm normal lens. 28 mm and 200 mm are two of the least useful focal lengths, as far as I'm concerned.
It's really strange to me this market segment. There is only 1 camera in the dpreview database that has the following two features:
1/1.7" or larger sensor24-90 zoom range
That camera is the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5. It's also quite fast (F2.0-F3.3). Nikon and others hamstring these compacts by giving too small a sensor and not quite a wide enough wide angle. Judging from the over 200 reviews averaging 4.5 stars on Amazon, the LX5 is clearly doing something right. You'd think Nikon would want to actually compete with them.