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Thanks to the new 'Adobe business model' I went to Capture One Pro, and Media Pro instead upgrading Lightroom.
I'm still learning, but results looks better to me.
I hope to find substitution to Photoshop before it became too old to be useful.
Cariboou: After joint to Adobe Cloud almost one month ago today I upgrade from LR4.4 to LR5 I have to say that while pay 57$ for a Adobe Cloud for me it's ok, I hate pay 200$ for cable tv, internet and phone home any month this bug me believe me!
Aljudy, I think he can have it cheaper.
Also in my place one can have it all for about half of the price You mentioned (100+ tv channels, 30Mb/s transfer by wire, 8G/mo transfer on air, cellphone with free calls everywhere in the country).
Marcin 3M: Any news about CaptureOne competitive upgrade from LR?
David, it looks like it is going to be with the next version.
In my place I can order it by phone right now, without option for online purchase.
Because lr is not only raw processor, but also DAM manager, I need to be perfectly sure about its future as perpetual license product. Adobe didn't convinced about the future of lr.
I still have PS, so new features are not worth upgrading, considering that in case of both products I need to save my work as a tiff to ensure subscription-free access to my work.
Any news about CaptureOne competitive upgrade from LR?
I used to have this app on my android tablet. I've found nothing worth to use that.
Bram de Mooij: I want updates as less as possible. As long as my cameras are supported I will be happy. No clouds for me, unless it is free. This is all possible now. With or without Adobe.
Decent noise removal was available in photoshop even 10 years ago with help of plugins:)
King Penguin: I use PS Elements.......what's the future for this?
Switching to other software that has curves adjustmet :)
Zvonimir Tosic: Pixelmator is a program developed by two (2) brothers. Hey, let's be realistic there, please. How many people at Adobe are developing Photoshop?!
If instead of criticising a team of two persons for willing to live their dream we actually support them, maybe they'll hire two more coders and bring fixes and features as you need them. :)
Even then, guys, c'mon, it's incomparable what such small teams must now endure under the pressure of disappointed Photoshop fans. It's not their fault many of you didn't support them before – it was simply unrealistic that such a small team can address all ends a big program you'd love to have requires.
Photoshop was also created by two brothers...
Lea5: Corel reaction to Adobes CC:
"As you’ve probably noticed, big changes are underway in the high-tech industry at large, and more specifically in the graphics software world. Earlier this week, Adobe announced that it will discontinue the boxed version of Creative Suite and move exclusively to a subscription-based model (AKA Creative Cloud). This means that going forward, the only way to keep up-to-date with the latest offering from Adobe will be by paying monthly fees. When you stop paying, your products will stop working.
At Corel, we strongly believe in giving users the choice to purchase your software the way you want. For many of you, we know that the preference is to purchase a box or download version of our products in what is called a “perpetual license”, i.e. in a way that gives you the right to use the product forever without having to pay anything extra.
Read more...
http://corelblogs.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/corel-is-all-about-giving-users-choice/
Draw is not available on mac, but i can be used on mac.
No problem.
Just a Photographer: Adobe acts like if LR has the same value and features as Photoshop.
They only forget that LR is nothing more then the ACR module that is already being shipped together with PS.
Who is going to believe Adobe anymore after their untrusty behavior towards their loyal customers that don't need every PS update or don't have the money for their cloud subscription.
The more You use it, the more you depend from adobe.
Little offtopic:
Who have noticed that feature that is proudly posessed by Photoshop - the context aware fill, is also build into Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
Congratulations, Sigma.
I hope QC will follow the superior lens design!
This is what all manufacturers lack nowadays. Please, chande the trend!
Dont one have to buy cc subscription to use the content-aware fill?
LeoG: You guys....Wow... 1500 posts to say the same thing.
"The CC model does not work for the hobbyist photographer". Most hobbyist I know really don't need anything more then picasa anyway, or at the very most elements. they think they do....but they don't. BUT if they want it.. well, who said any hobbies were cheap?
Pro's will pass this cost to the customers. End of story.ll
No matter how wildly used PS was never a program for the masses. That's even the ones who "got in early way back in 2.1"
True, Designers and video guys get the lion's share of the 30+ programs and are the ones who will not bat a eye at it.
As for photographers with a web presence, don't discount prosite. Its very good. I dropped my squarespace sites and moved my url's over to prosite and I am SAVING $30 a month. So CC is putting money back into my pocket.
Sure, I am worried about future price increases but that's at least a few years out.
You should add that 640kb is enough for everybody.
If they want lease a service, so I may lend them money.
bobbarber: I feel the need to post that Gimp's current development version, 2.9, works in 16 and 32 bit color per channel. It will soon be released as 2.10, with 16 and 32 bit color in the stable version.
It seems that the Adobe paid posters have "Gimp is 8-bit color" in their talking points, which, by the way, is another useful way to spot them.
Option for indesign is or may be the scribus.
And what will happened to digital assets (stored locally by users), when one day Adobe vanish (as a result of bankrupcy, earthquake, asteroid or whatever)?
What if US gouvernment will restrict access to the service for some countries?
Soft will stop working in a less than 1 month.
What next?
Mateusz P: Moving to CC is good only for people who constantly use the software and paying $60 per month is effordable. I look into my PS once in a while (1-2 times per month), I bought the box for the company and I believe I will use this version for the next few years. If from some reason I will have to resign from this version I will have to find another application for photo retouching, even $25 (the 1 application fee) is to high for two opennings per month..
And btw, this thing is a great option for companies like Google, MS to develop fast some retouch appication and people like me will probably move to it one day:(
midou, Scott wrote his books for PS users. Most readers of his books are amateurs and intermediate users.
Who will be interested in PS books while not having PS?
Who from cloud experts will read his books?
It may happen, that even for him 20usd/month will be too much :)
Adam Filipowicz: if high schools cant afford it.. then they should switch to something else.. I dont even think highschools need adobe products.. if you want to learn it.. go to college/university and it will be paid for by your outrageous tuition fees
Now high schools has to introduce other options to their educational plans, including free, open software.
It should help to develop this products faster.
Hey, when CS6 arrived, You told, that Adobe programs will be available also as perpetual licence.
Why should I trust You about lightroom future?