Franka T.L.: I seriously cannot understand why they can't just have a standard Nikon ( ISO ) hotshoe with those contacts so we can use something like the GPS or just the SB flash .. its a failure in systematic and brand wise deployment as far as product design goes
Simply money.
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Posted on Oct 26, 2012 at 02:50:43 UTC
Zoltan Csuka: This is simply put a horrible looking mutant design. It's not even funny. The viewfinder housing looks like a screwed-on multipurpose accessory that could fall off anytime. Huge step back from V1, not even mentioning Nex 6/7. 99.9% of DPreview forum members could do better...
It's designed by a committee don't you get it? The body is designed by the body committee, the hump is designed by the humping committee. What do you expect? Coherence is not in their dictionary.
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Posted on Oct 26, 2012 at 02:48:32 UTC
facedodge: According to this depth of field calculator,(http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html) the 32 f/1.2 will have a dof of .77 Feet.
This is equivalent to an 85mm lens on full frame set to f/3.2 which has a dof of .78 feet. (At f2.8 the dof is .7 feet)
This is still very good and should be produce excellent results... Especially in low light as the advantage of f/1.2 is maintained in terms of exposure/shutter speed.
What is the subject distance? It's true that this lens gives f3.2 FF equiv. Which IMHO when used for half body portraits will give a distracting half blurred background. Better use it to headshot people.
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Posted on Oct 24, 2012 at 13:39:52 UTC
bimmerman: Wait a minute, did they say zoom type is extending??? Meaning the length of the lens changes when zoomed??? Oh no!!! say it ain't so Nikon. Why can't they make one like Canon? This is going to be a dust pump!!!
Zoom method: Rotary (internal)
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Posted on Oct 24, 2012 at 10:39:56 UTC
vFunct: These 1-series cameras are BEASTS. No other camera, not even the D4, can touch their 15 FPS with FULL phase-detect AF. It really is a pro-camera.
People that even think about comparing this camera to NEX are clueless noobs. The NEX and other competitors in this category are worthless junk. Those are toys because they don't have the high-speed phase-detect AF that 1's and dSLRs have.
Obviously if all you shoot are still-life or landscapes, then you don't need high-speed focus, but if you ever take shots of people, and if you DON'T want to make it look like they're always posing stiff, then you'll have to go with a phase-detect autofocus system that you'd normally only get with a dSLR. And a professional might take thousands of these non-stiff shots per day.
Seriously, 15 frames a second with full phase-detect AF is an entirely different class of photography!
My only concern left is if it reverts back to contrast-detect AF in low-light like the previous models.
So to sum it up, 15fps = pro? I'd say those who shoot sports using single shot, manual focus and get sharp pictures are the real pros.
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First that image stabilisation is very useful, up to a point, but the main problem is whether the subject moves! In such a case the aperture is far more important (although that has its major limitations too!). I think the manfacturers over-emphasise the importance of this feature and now it's joined the megapixel race! Also, what is the power consumption of this compared to one of lesser ability?
Second, I would put money on, within a few months, many retailers offering a 'free' collar as part of a deal, rather than knocking the price down.
All that said, if it performs well, the pain of the price would be soon forgotten for Nikon users. I can see it now in the forums..."The best $1400 I've ever spent!"...
1. Image stabilisation is highly useful and is highly emphasised by users 2. Not many would buy the tripod collar because there is image stabilisation, and no....retailers won't include them, never happened to Canon at least.
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Posted on Oct 24, 2012 at 08:15:08 UTC
David Carr: 15fps played back at 30fps would indeed be "pretty pathetic slow-mo" because it would, in fact, be speeded up.
GoPros are useless in low light and have all the problems of a programmed exposure in bright light because you don't have any control over the shutter speed. No control, as a consequence, over motion blur.
You can't lock exposure either (which would be one way to reduce noise in low light, preventing the camera from automatically "gaining up" when it's pointed at something dark).
The ProTune firmware update helps improve the image in good light but does nothing to improve low light response.
Anyway, at least we know why the ProTune update was so overdue: they were busy making the Hero2 obsolete...
Auto exposure is logical, as you really won't want to fiddle with settings when you're doing a double backflip. But than, manaual exposure is still useful, I've seen a fan use a GoPro on the SIDELINES! I LOLed, I thought GoPro should be used in the action not out of it....
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Posted on Oct 18, 2012 at 18:35:15 UTC
The present breed of DSLRs are competing on image sensor and also AF sensor. Will Dpreview do consumers a big big favour by including controlled focus tracking tests? The test would need something that will move at a constant speed everytime. (A reason to convince your boss that there's a need for a Segway in the office)
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qwertyasdf: On a previous lens roadmap, Samsung indicated a 55/1.8 pancake.
It turned out to be a cupcake.
The following lens are on the roadmap for the 2nd half of 2012 lol...
80-400mm f/4-5.6 OIS SSA iFn
135mm f/2 OIS SSA iFn
24mm f/1.8 ED SSA iFn
Personally I would hope they ditch the 135/2, which translates to 202.5mm
On the internet.
Franka T.L.: I seriously cannot understand why they can't just have a standard Nikon ( ISO ) hotshoe with those contacts so we can use something like the GPS or just the SB flash .. its a failure in systematic and brand wise deployment as far as product design goes
Simply money.
Zoltan Csuka: This is simply put a horrible looking mutant design. It's not even funny. The viewfinder housing looks like a screwed-on multipurpose accessory that could fall off anytime. Huge step back from V1, not even mentioning Nex 6/7.
99.9% of DPreview forum members could do better...
It's designed by a committee don't you get it?
The body is designed by the body committee, the hump is designed by the humping committee.
What do you expect? Coherence is not in their dictionary.
On a previous lens roadmap, Samsung indicated a 55/1.8 pancake.
It turned out to be a cupcake.
The following lens are on the roadmap for the 2nd half of 2012 lol...
80-400mm f/4-5.6 OIS SSA iFn
135mm f/2 OIS SSA iFn
24mm f/1.8 ED SSA iFn
Personally I would hope they ditch the 135/2, which translates to 202.5mm
Really good prices!
It's the first time I say it here on Dpreview!!!
qwertyasdf: So...will the 32 f/1.2 priced like a FF 85 1.2?
Hope so...
IF Olympus made it, it'll definitely be priced as a 85mm 1.2 LOL
But regardless, this lens will be very expensive.
facedodge: According to this depth of field calculator,(http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html) the 32 f/1.2 will have a dof of .77 Feet.
This is equivalent to an 85mm lens on full frame set to f/3.2 which has a dof of .78 feet. (At f2.8 the dof is .7 feet)
This is still very good and should be produce excellent results... Especially in low light as the advantage of f/1.2 is maintained in terms of exposure/shutter speed.
What is the subject distance?
It's true that this lens gives f3.2 FF equiv.
Which IMHO when used for half body portraits will give a distracting half blurred background. Better use it to headshot people.
So...will the 32 f/1.2 priced like a FF 85 1.2?
bimmerman: Wait a minute, did they say zoom type is extending??? Meaning the length of the lens changes when zoomed??? Oh no!!! say it ain't so Nikon. Why can't they make one like Canon? This is going to be a dust pump!!!
Zoom method: Rotary (internal)
vFunct: These 1-series cameras are BEASTS. No other camera, not even the D4, can touch their 15 FPS with FULL phase-detect AF. It really is a pro-camera.
People that even think about comparing this camera to NEX are clueless noobs. The NEX and other competitors in this category are worthless junk. Those are toys because they don't have the high-speed phase-detect AF that 1's and dSLRs have.
Obviously if all you shoot are still-life or landscapes, then you don't need high-speed focus, but if you ever take shots of people, and if you DON'T want to make it look like they're always posing stiff, then you'll have to go with a phase-detect autofocus system that you'd normally only get with a dSLR. And a professional might take thousands of these non-stiff shots per day.
Seriously, 15 frames a second with full phase-detect AF is an entirely different class of photography!
My only concern left is if it reverts back to contrast-detect AF in low-light like the previous models.
So to sum it up, 15fps = pro?
I'd say those who shoot sports using single shot, manual focus and get sharp pictures are the real pros.
aardvark7: I have two observations:
First that image stabilisation is very useful, up to a point, but the main problem is whether the subject moves! In such a case the aperture is far more important (although that has its major limitations too!). I think the manfacturers over-emphasise the importance of this feature and now it's joined the megapixel race! Also, what is the power consumption of this compared to one of lesser ability?
Second, I would put money on, within a few months, many retailers offering a 'free' collar as part of a deal, rather than knocking the price down.
All that said, if it performs well, the pain of the price would be soon forgotten for Nikon users. I can see it now in the forums..."The best $1400 I've ever spent!"...
1. Image stabilisation is highly useful and is highly emphasised by users
2. Not many would buy the tripod collar because there is image stabilisation, and no....retailers won't include them, never happened to Canon at least.
StephenSPhotog: The Quickdraw is EXACTLY the kind of thing that I have been needing!
That's one idea that sounds good, looks cool but works bad...
This is the first ever time I shared DPreview on my facebook!
Geez! look at the size of it.
David Carr: 15fps played back at 30fps would indeed be "pretty pathetic slow-mo" because it would, in fact, be speeded up.
GoPros are useless in low light and have all the problems of a programmed exposure in bright light because you don't have any control over the shutter speed. No control, as a consequence, over motion blur.
You can't lock exposure either (which would be one way to reduce noise in low light, preventing the camera from automatically "gaining up" when it's pointed at something dark).
The ProTune firmware update helps improve the image in good light but does nothing to improve low light response.
Anyway, at least we know why the ProTune update was so overdue: they were busy making the Hero2 obsolete...
Auto exposure is logical, as you really won't want to fiddle with settings when you're doing a double backflip.
But than, manaual exposure is still useful, I've seen a fan use a GoPro on the SIDELINES! I LOLed, I thought GoPro should be used in the action not out of it....
qwertyasdf: DPreview staff, go out and do some extreme sports to review this camera already!
Me?! Nah, I'd leave it for Butler.
DPreview staff, go out and do some extreme sports to review this camera already!
The present breed of DSLRs are competing on image sensor and also AF sensor.
Will Dpreview do consumers a big big favour by including controlled focus tracking tests?
The test would need something that will move at a constant speed everytime. (A reason to convince your boss that there's a need for a Segway in the office)
qwertyasdf: Dpreview viewers, let's guess which lens camera combo was used to take the above picture.
And the winner will be named the King / Queen of pixel peeping.
Examining the perspective, I'm pretty sure it's taken by a 50mm lens with a slight decentering, the right side is sharper than the left side.
Dpreview viewers, let's guess which lens camera combo was used to take the above picture.
And the winner will be named the King / Queen of pixel peeping.
Banhmi: DPR... can't we add some lingerie models to the new test scene? Beautiful female bodies are a cornerstone of photography!
Plus we have to see how the camera render skin tones.