AngryCorgi: I gotta be honest, I think this is the weakest "First Impressions Review" I've seen on DPR.
Yes, previews were used to be 3 pages.Aren't the office excited about this new offering?
Mike99999: @goshigoo: "Also, IQ wise, 6D + 85 f/1.8 @ f/2.4 could be better than this lens.35mm FF still has it's value when shallow Dof is needed"
No. A Leica full frame camera is king, yes, but by no means good value. Canon and Nikon FF cameras are for dorks. What's the point of all this shallow DoF when your ridiculous camera gets in the way all the time. A full frame DSLR is to photography as a cargo truck is to driving cars.
A cargo truck is what professional truck drivers use to get a load from A to B, sure, but in my spare time I'd much rather enjoy driving a fine German or Italian automobile.
And in this realm, a Leica M9 or Sony RX1 really wins. But the system Panasonic and Olympus have built up is a very fair alternative, with great lenses.
goshigoo is right, and you are completely wrong.
qwertyasdf: Referring to some comments made below:135 is THE FORMAT for DOF, not medium format, not large format. There is simply no equivalent of 85mm F1.2 nor 50mm F0.95 nor 200mm F1.8 in any other format.I shoot with a Mamiya 645 and 80mm F1.9, the largest aperture in MF, but still no match for FF.
Not bad at all, I love that lens, while dreaded the Canon 50mm F1.2LBut I have yet to try a F0.95 lens :P though it is not necessary...
qwertyasdf: I hope the in body IS works well. Because seriously, Panasonic in lens OIS sucks.
The Panasonic OIS (even the newer lenses) is only good for 2-ish stops,while Canon and Nikon offer the 4 stops that they claim.More surprisingly, Fuji's first X-mount IS lens 18-55 F2.8-4 performs even better than CaNikon...(I hv tried them all)Panasonic has been making OIS lens for so long, I cannot believe how far they are behind the competition.
I hope the in body IS works well. Because seriously, Panasonic in lens OIS sucks.
Referring to some comments made below:135 is THE FORMAT for DOF, not medium format, not large format. There is simply no equivalent of 85mm F1.2 nor 50mm F0.95 nor 200mm F1.8 in any other format.I shoot with a Mamiya 645 and 80mm F1.9, the largest aperture in MF, but still no match for FF.
Like the fact that the new kit lens starts at 16mm, but disappointed the pancake is a f2.8 not f2
bad news!"he brown version will be available a bit later than the other two - August rather than July - and in some markets will be exclusive to certain retailers. "
Wow! we're back to
August 20, 2003 ! ! ! ! ! !
Somebody should write about the weird naming styles of camera makers...
20D......60D 70D 80D 90D ---> 100D?
DarylK: 100% Glass prism viewfinder, dual dial controls, what appears to be good ergonomics similar to other Pentax's, weather sealing if you like, shake reduction for any lens you mount, a stellar/proven sensor that it terrific at higher ISOs and a price that seems to be competitive to competitors' cameras that do not have these features (except for maybe the Sony sensor)...looks like an excellent value for those who really scruitize what they need.
What PENTAX only need now is a strong rebate on lenses!
ProfHankD: So, three questions:1. Sensor anti-shake?2. Does it fully support using adapted manual lenses?3. Anybody making a focal reducer for it? Imagine a Speed Booster-like adapter that buys you several stops while restoring a FF view angle with an adapted lens.
Just a thought, since the crop factor is ~5XIf you pop in a F1.2 lens and reduce it to FF equiv., wouldn't it burn a hole in the sensor LOLThat's ~F0.2
WHere are the equivalency police ?They will claim the 5-15mm is a 70-200mm f2.8 equivalent...and worth $1500
So admittedly, pentax knowningly screwed up Q and Q10 buyers...But now the Q seems like a sensible product
Benarm: Looks like Leica is accelerating towards the destiny of Kodak and Polaroid.
Kodak deserved it...But I think Polaroid is an other story, you can't digitalize instant film while maintaining the fun factor.
qwertyasdf: I really hope the NX line success with it incredible lensesBut the unnecessary long flangeback distance is like a genetic disorder that will plague generations to come The inability to use m mount lenses and the stupid protruding lens mount killed the deal for me
I know the issues about the 12mm, but the CV 15mm is my fav, and I can't use it on a NX camera (at least not easily)...along with other great m mount lenses...I chose X-E1 at the end, if the NX can mount m mount lens, I'll definitely choose NX, the 30mm pancake is IMO the most outstanding lens in all mirrorless systems.
I really hope the NX line success with it incredible lensesBut the unnecessary long flangeback distance is like a genetic disorder that will plague generations to come The inability to use m mount lenses and the stupid protruding lens mount killed the deal for me
ml48: You would have to be a loonie to buy a lunar.
At least the Lunar is named accordingly...for lunartics...That's +1 for the LunarThis Leica has everything wrong...
Mistral75: "world's first compact camera with an APS-C sensor"
What about the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-R1 from 2003?
"...with a fixed zoom lens"Which...is the worst part...
Some times "world's first" means nothingI can easily make a world's first compact camera with an APS-C sensor with a pinhole lens, with a crappy lens, or with no lens...wtsoeva....
qwertyasdf: Let the bashing begin.
I bet the users would say it has AMAZING bokeh.
Let the bashing begin.