DPR - Ref your comments on poor JPEG quality, was the camera tested with the update mentioned at the end of the shooting experience section?
*At the time this page was published, Samsung had just released a firmware update which promised to improve Jpeg processing.
If so, it would appear that a bit more work is required.
Nice colours. Somewhat lacking in sharpness and detail definition but I can't get the originals to open to do a better check. Anyone else with this problem?
Is the image on page 4, Classic Chrome or Provia? Typo?
Excellent, almost surreal. Tower Bridge not London Bridge by the way.
aris14: No matter if this or any other camera offering an easy way for selfy pix have the best IQ ever or whatever whatsoever...Selfies is the depiction of an ill egoism and selfism thus depicting the problems of a rather significantly ill culture... Or should I say civilization..?
Regardless of your opinion of selfies, they can be useful to let you take pictures of yourself. perhaps with a companion, and also include that stunning view behind you. Getting a full 180º isn't a major engineering feat.Just a thought, but the ability to hold the camera upside down at arms length to take pictures or videos behind you using the screen can make that extra 90º very useful. Shots over a crowd or wall come to mind. Gets the negative comment in the preview." It’s great for taking selfies, but not so useful if you’re trying to take overhead shots at a concert."
Stollen1234: Hey Dpreview..no thanx..try harder next time
I believe that Stollen is a type of fruit cake.........
Coming to a drone near you. Like it!
Holladay: The whole point of this camera is that it's small and pocketable.Why would I want to make it bigger?
If I wanted a grip with a battery I would take my DSLR.
Rick - Sony makes a separate AG-R2 grip accessory for the RX100 mk111 for $14.99. Don't know if it fits the previous 2 models.
deluk: I quite like the grand winner but would like to have seen a comparison colour version. Perhaps the manipulation would have shown up worse in colour, but it looks as if the lighting, with the partly clouded over sun, would have been effective. As an aside, the sloped horizon is totally unacceptable. IMO.
Checking out more details on the museum site I note that the lions shot was taken with infra red so maybe my comment about colour isn't so relevant. Doesn't excuse the horizon though.
I quite like the grand winner but would like to have seen a comparison colour version. Perhaps the manipulation would have shown up worse in colour, but it looks as if the lighting, with the partly clouded over sun, would have been effective. As an aside, the sloped horizon is totally unacceptable. IMO.
jaykumarr: The sony camera used in this test, is a poor quality one. It has consistently produced sharper output in RHS and softer output in LHS. This flaw is present in all the photos.
Right Hand Side/Left Hand Side.
Morgan David: All great, exept for the cheating picture 6 that most certainly is not shot with a smartphone.This DOF is not achievable with the size of the iPhone sensor.
I assume you can lock focus on an iPhone? I don't know as I've never had a phone with a camera. If so you can lock it closer to you and recompose. I note that the immediate foreground is sharp. If you know what you are doing you can trick the DOF like that.To me they are a pretty nice set of images, I don't care what they were taken with. I'd be pleased with them, but then I'm not a "photographer". I'm not an "artist" either.......
"Hatlady" image #5 looks to show that her "Sunday Best" is a Salvation Army uniform. May have been a bands woman if what she's carrying is a instrument case, flute/piccolo?Ship in #15 is Captain Scott's ship "Discovery" and is still moored there.
Nice series, thanks for posting.
LeitzKameraAktion: Very interesting film! But could anyone walk about with a camera in a busy street today, snapping away in people's faces like this, and not get accosted or arrested?
In this clip he's getting a lot of protection from the movie maker. When on his own he's more vulnerable, but as said, that was another time. It will depend where you are but aggression due to the "you lookin' at me" factor is something to be aware of now days. Photographically he makes the comment that his viewfinder just quickly sets the limits to the composition. He's not likely to whine about resolution, softness, etc as is so often read today in camera tests.
vadims: "DSLRs can capture the moment better than mirrorless, because you're viewing directly, not through an LCD."
This reminds me those medieval scientists who refused to follow Galileo and use telescope because they believed that lenses were "distorting reality" and therefore insisted on observing with naked eye.
But if you had a viewfinder on your mirrorless that wouldn't be a problem.................... So often with a new model the comment is "no viewfinder, no buy" so maybe that's what is keeping mirrorless sales so low in the USA.
bigley Ling: based on what I can see from the crops, the out of camera JPG is superior to ACR converted raw with noise reduction. ACR without noise reduction is sharper and has more details than out of camera JPG but then the result seems rather noisy.
Be aware that the 1020's ISO 1600 may be close to ISO 400 on comparable cameras.
Noting that I don't have a camera of any sort on my phone, it's a phone, I too think the jpegs are better than the conversions overall. I'm sure that some minor tweaking with the backlight adjustment in PhotoScape, my default simple and easy to use PES, would bring out similar detail in the "horse tail" image, if editing on my PC. Analysing and editing images like this to a micro level, quickly reaches the point of diminishing returns IMO. So much so that you can easily get to the point where you give up, start over, and get an acceptable result with just a couple of clicks.
Firstly I've no interest in this camera, way out of my league, but clicked through to the Conclusion as you do. Read the "Cons" and then scrolled down the Award given. GOLD! I then went back and read the Cons again. For me a pretty big miss match. Haven't seen Bronze on anything for a while but thought it might just scrape a qualified Silver.
I've just revisited this thread to see if had calmed down/bottomed out. Still fairly lively it seems. Pity that hardly any of the comments refer to the context of the article but to the A7 and its own foibles.I would think that since posting it BB and the team have been smiling and shaking their heads. It doesn't affect me as I don't even have a DSLR but read it out of interest. To me it was a fun article about what you can do with older lenses. I'm sure it would have been just too easy for BB to ask around the office for a selection of much better, modern ones. That wasn't the idea though IMO. It's often more fun to go out for the day with an older lower spec'd camera and challenge yourself to take some pictures you like. They don't have to be technically perfect, the best pictures rarely are. If the image comes up on screen and you say "I like that" and someone looking over your shoulder agrees, that opinion is immediate.Thanks Barnaby, great pictures, I enjoyed your article.
I'm all for a QI over IQ if you get my pixel peeping drift, and as said, most of these show lots of manipulation. Generally I'm fine with 'shopping as long as the image remains very close to what could have been SOOC. Having said that and noting the size of images offered for the contest and with no equipment details (without going back into the files) I'd like to see a contest like this won by a smart phone. That would bloody a few noses. There are a couple, or more, here that could well have been done on a phone.
For some additional views and more inside info on how they were taken, have a look here. Using Bing translate is useful.