For all the big talk about how indifferent the photos are I am quite sure that they far exceed the quality of the average photo that will be taken by these cameras.The closest so many of you will get to these cameras is to put your fingerprints on one at a camera store and go home to your Casio P&S.
Photomonkey: 1788 comments in 24 hours! Must be a record.
1788 comments in 24 hours! Must be a record.
mas54: I think dpr and all other review sites should refuse to review any more cameras that don't have optical viewfinders. Just consider them non entities. Maybe the camera companies will get the hint.
They will stop making them when you stop buying them.
Mr Fartleberry: Homage to Noct? What marketing pig hooey. Maybe if it was 1.2 or 1.0. It's a 1.4 lense, nothing to see here.
But they sure are hooked on grabbing two thousand dollars for mid-range primes now. The Vampire is back as Hogan would say.
What? Someone complaining about price on DPR? What has happened?
cyclocross: I'm not going to review the previous 730+ comments to see if a comment similar to my comment has already been posted.
I think if Sony is serious about maintaining the A-mount series of cameras then they will have to drop the price of the A99 body to about $2000-$2200. $2800 is way too high compared to the these new e-mounts and the equivalent Nikon DSLRs.
I think Sony should review its pricing structure. As an example one can buy a decent Nikon D7100 kit with several lenses including their 500/f4 for the price of just Sony's 500/f4.
Make everything cheaper!! That's the way to prosperity! Said no one ever.
Trollshavethebestcandy: Needs fast primes.
When the give them to you will you be like everyone else and whine about the price?
The most revealing item to me is how poorly the Sigma focused with PDAF. Mirrors my experience. Great glass that can't AF well or reliably loses a lot of value for me.
While $4000 is a bunch of money, Leica has all sorts of lenses that cost more and won't go on your Canon or Nikon.
I am sure they will still sell quite a few as the people who buy them do not mix with the rest of us.
steelhead3: I like your examples...good shooting. I am wondering why you guys are continuing to show examples of 2005 technology, the world has moved on. No more small sensor Kodak type of unlimited DOF please.
We cower in the shadow of your terrifying opinions.
RobertSigmund: Only 5500 pounds for a 45mm F 2,8 lens, how cheap!
Dear Yabokkie, The world is not reducible to your specious comparisons. If MF was so comparable to other formats it would not exist. In fact it seems it would be worth your time to rent a MF kit and find out what the excitement is about. You may also learn a few things that cannot be inferred by numbers.
RStyga: If Leica is slowly degrading in quality it surely is not in pricing.
Where is it written that high quality, low volume items have to be cheap?Leica prices have always been expensive. When I owned an M-4 in the seventies a new lens was a month's pay. No different today.
The big difference was the absence of the internet where one could hear all the wailing of people who make it their mission to direct their manufactured outrage at a company they are not forced to buy from.
All very nice but will they be wether-sealed and have a red stripe?
Marty4650: For those of you offended by the comparison of this rugged camera to the classic Nikonos, please remember that Dpreiew never made that assertion. They merely posed the question in the headline for this new item. ("Nikonos reborn?")
Most likely the question was asked to draw attention and elicit response, and not to claim that the Ruggedized Nikon 1 is in the same league with the classic underwater SLR.
The comment sure stirred up the trolls though. It is tiresome to see so few comments of value. Rather it seems to be a storm of trolls each trying to out do each other in some new sneering comment about how stupid the camera manufacturers are for not making something making something that conforms to their idea of camera perfection as they understand it (from their recently minted Internet photo education).
The Davinator: And yet Canon can't design a sensor with decent dynamic range.
Actually they do have decent range, its just that others have gotten better. What I feel is overlooked is that the public clamored for better low ISO performance and then when that came along they spin around and scream for better DR.The sort of thing that drives manufacturers crazy.
I have yet to be convinced that the better DR of even MF cameras shows up in final images.
justmeMN: Some mirrorless enthusiasts complain about DSLRs being big, bulky, and heavy.
The EM-1 is 12% wider, 3% taller, and 22% heavier than the Canon SL1 / 100D, according to camerasizecom.
(Yes, they are in different price classes.)
SL-1 will take fine pictures but most people will find little joy in the experience.The real fact is that the vast bulk of enthusiasts do want something that is a pleasure to handle and work with.If they were just looking for a small instrument they would be using their phones.
daqk: 1. Too Expensive!2. No Flash?
Everything is to expensive except the Sony A3000 and so far, everybdy hates it.Stop whining about price, its a stupid hobby.
ThomasSwitzerland: Sensors today are driven by software algorithms, not much room left for market diffentiation to Oly, therefore the design limbo. Olympus now with the EM-1 remind me of a Ford-T car model with a turbo engine built in. I had been a loyal Olympus user from the OM-1 up to the digital “3”.
To me this Olympus now is bad taste in design with la-la-technology for a Leica-like pricing strategy. I still have one Oly 11-22mm lens left which I fit to my Panasonic, that’s it. IQ compares to any other brand like Canon or Nikon, equal or less. Oly do not have a secret and only appeal to a very specific niche market. They are not on the road for major market growth.
So they are all the same but Oly has fancy design. I guess that makes it like all the others. Except the others don't have fancy design?So what you are saying is that Oly feels their fancy design is worth more money. I noticed this worked for Apple.Major market growth may not be necessary, they want to be profitable.Don't take pricing so personally, it makes you sound like you really want the camera except for their greed.
Yay for Olympus for bringing out a fantastic new camera.
Yay for consumers who have a choice of a range of great cameras from many manufacturers.
Yay for trolls who can now be quiet and buy the stuff they say they love and avoid the constellation of inferior gear they are complaining about.