Andystack: Well, adobes stock spiked up dramatically today in after hours trading on news that cc sales are up 20%, welcome to the future.
That and Adobe's earnings will determine if the move to the subscription model was the correct one.I find it astonishing that anybody really thinks that contemporary American management theory includes squishy notions of client dissatisfaction that cannot be papered over by PR.
Must have been posted about a nanosecond ago. Missing the avalanche of outraged hobbyist posts.
"Clients" who try to get you to work for free are not clients. They are thoughtless people who have somehow latched onto the idea that everything (except what they get paid) is negotiable down to zero.
They continue to bedevil us because someone keeps believing them.
monkeybrain: I wonder if Canon will produce any more pancake primes? It is probably possible to do more focal lengths, but then they might start stepping on the toes of the EOS M line (and we all know Canon likes to, often artificially, differentiate between its models a lot).
I doubt it as the lens formula is best at the normal range of FL. A telephoto or WA needs greater size to just do its job( tele) or avoid the flipping mirror and be far enough from the sensor to minimize edge falloff (WA).
Barry Fitzgerald: It's a nice lens tried this and the 18-135mm STM. Good optics and low price it's a winner for Canon (shame about the 1.6x crop though for APS-C users) The focus by wire is "a bit better" than some previous versions, but as ever it can't respond to faster turning like a mechanical focus can, it's weird as focus by wire always is.
On both lenses manual mechanical focus would be superior no questions about it. So I'd downgrade them a bit based on that. A good mechanical focus always beats electronic focus by wire hands down.
As good as mechanical focusing may be you will see less and less as it is cheaper to to make electronics. OTOH focus by wire will get better. Note how good electronic steering can be on some cars.
samhain: 400+ comments in 5 hours, no takers. Shocker. I'm guessing its the just the $140 lens cap people aren't happy with...
One good thing about this camera- it serves as a model for other companies as what NOT to build: a slow fixed zoom camera with no ovf/evf.
There probably will be takers. After intros like this, I notice an avalanche of negative comments and several months later there are boards devoted to the camera.
rb59020: $900.00!?! For that price it should be an f1.0! I could git the Sony lens and 9 K-1000 bodies on ebay! Or three new tires for my pickup truck!
You should not be shopping Zeiss or the other premium brands if you want to quack price.
Gesture: That expensive optical viewfinder has been done away with; not to mention smaller without being exotic miniaturization. These cameras should cost less.
Yes, even though the camera division loses money, they should charge less to make you happy?
Photomonkey: "I wouldn't feel comfortable in a heavy downpour."
I don't want to have a camera out in a heavy downpour.
I think the weatherproofing issue is a bit oversold as most people do treat their gear with some care.If you think about it, the most vulnerable part of you camera is the front element of the lens. If you are protecting THAT in a rain, you will also be covering the rest of the body IMO.
@Josh, Yes, I get it. But you are then trivializing its importance while defending its presence. If that is the case, then one should not be making such an issue of its absence.
The fact is that the issue of weatherproofing, while it has its advantages for limiting the exposure to sensor dust (most importantly), is still heavily oversold to a credulous market.
The fact is that when we look at a camera/lens combination and then think about exposing it to rain/dust/fire and brimstone, the areas that ARE "weatherproofed" are already fairly well protected by the basic construction of the camera. The lens mount is the obvious point of ingress for contaminants and that can be (and should be) the focus of weatherproofing efforts. That said, it is a simple O-ring on the lens and the job is done.
"I wouldn't feel comfortable in a heavy downpour."
Photomonkey: Photoline is an interesting alternative.Comes from Germany and is priced at 59 euros.Seems to have a lot of features, is 64 bit and has RAW support.
As the UI is different it will take a bit of time to see if it measures up.
Noticed that the RAW was poor. It also crashed on me and was slow. That is a huge advantage of LR where the files are imported with a great starting point dialed in.
Photoline is an interesting alternative.Comes from Germany and is priced at 59 euros.Seems to have a lot of features, is 64 bit and has RAW support.
MarcLee: To the people whining about "the competition does not have this", or "the competition does not have that", get real. Unless you buy a high end camera, your camera does not have a bunch of functions that owners of a 1DX for example have. Sometimes not spending so much has a small disadvantage. Taking a stand against greed may involve a little sacrifice. It's this attitude that has made Adobe the monster it is. Let the suckers pay Adobe's overheads for less innovation. There is plenty of software out there to do MOST of what MOST people need. Support it and it will do more. Find out what you need. And buy it. I would like a 5D MK III to cost no more than my point and shoot. Guess what? It ain't going to happen.
I hear the same rants whenever Adobe releases an upgrade (granted this time the wails are louder). Maybe all the previous whining about Adobe's greed convinced them that you aren't serious. ;)
@GaryJP: I agree. But considering the "ethics" of the average corporation in America (can you say Wall Street?) it seems the average American shrugs and lets it pass.
For all the anger directed at Adobe there are precious few real full featured alternatives to PS. The GIMP might be the best but as it STILL does not have 16 bit support it falls short as a pro app for me. I use a number of features in PS that may be available in other apps but it took me years to get my skills honed in PS and I have little enthusiasm for starting all over in some app that may not have what I need.As a working pro I need PS but at the moment I don't need to upgrade. If I had been cutting corners by hanging on to CS3 I may be a bit peeved.When a major upgrade comes to PS I will move to the subscription model because I will have to. BUT the upgrade will have to be magical.
With the Magic Lantern announcement of RAW video on the 5Dmk3 I think this item will not receive much love.
sunnycal: At about the same price, why would anybody want this over OM-D?
1/250 flash sync!
So where are the free market people trumpeting the choices they have as an alternative to Adobe?
So far it is just lots of ranting about price.
After the rants will people really change? Do they really move like the free marketers say they will?
I am waiting to hear the joyous shouts from the new users of PaintSHop Pro.
Timmbits: Not only a fight against software piracy, something this product in particular is plagued by, but also controlling the users, the revenue streams... if THEY decide to change the version on you, they'll shove it down your throat even if you prefer an older version that is less bug ridden or works better with your current hardware. Be concerned, very concerned. In the end, the customers will have the last word on this one... the door for competing products has just been widely opened.
I think the bug issue is overblown as they can incrementally add features that have been thoroughly vetted and de-bugged before release. This allows a constant dribble of features and refinements.Of course it is irrelevant if Adobe loses their base.
I guess this will sort the wheat from the chaff.
Pros who make money from PS will subscribe if and when they ultimately need to. The rest will migrate to cheap or free alternatives.Many will hold on to the current version they own and pray that OS updates don't break it.
In truth it is hard to see a need to upgrade from current versions as it already does way more than I need.
Mssimo: from 43rumors
A source told me that the new E-P5 has an improved 5 axis stabilization. Compared to the E-M5 this means that it has a new IS-Auto mode that automatically detects the camera’s movements.And here are some more E-P5 specs:
- 16 Megapixel sensor (same as E-M5)- TruePic VI image processing engine- improved AF (compared to E-M5)- improved 5 axis stabilization- 5fps- focus peaking- Shutter 1/8000 sec- built-in WiFi- 1.04 million dot tilting touchscreen LCD (no more OLED!).
announcement - 1am on May 10 in New York City
17mm, 45mm and 75mm Black lens rumor
It would be cool to have the original Pen shutter that synced at all shutter speeds up to 1/1000. It was some kind of funky focal plane shutter but it would sync at all speeds. We are a bit spoiled with the high speeds though.