princecody: I'll pass! I'd rather wait for the EM2 😀👍🏻👍🏻
I thought that was why they gave us the Df? ;)
RonHendriks: Iso 1.6 miljion is bullsh*t.
You need it for bullsh*t pictures.
joel avery: Has camera shutter speed improved via firmware before or is this a first?
Maybe the next firmware upgrade will advance the evolution of the apertures to full leaf shutters. Then we wont have to buy the CS lenses!
iAPX: I see it's not a camera for me, it's not probably a good replacement for a pocket mirrorless, or an action dslr. Some seems to find it "pricey", it surely is, but compared to what???
It's not pricey, it's under $100 per work day, or if you mind, with lenses and accessories largely under 10% of what a professional studio photographer will earn with it.
It's really pricey if you think about vacation's photographies, selfies, crush it while attached to a drone, compare it to a smartphone, if you want top put it on your car desk, or as a home-security camera. Do you really think it has been conceived for that?
Teila and Utphoto, I agree about the application of the Pentax. However the new Hasselblad lenses do have a max speed of 1/2000 which does not stink.
But the Hypersync of the Priolites are not perfect. Mark Kitaoka and a couple of others using them have reported uneven exposure with them and thus for more critical use that a critical client would demand would not work. The other problem with Hypersync is that it favors long duration flash thus demanding a specification that is in direct opposition to the desires of the market for short duration. HSS is a real kludge as the loss of power is so great one need thumping power to overcome that compromise.I like focal plane shutters for a lot of reasons but the flash sync and the current workarounds are not one of them.
Pentax has a lot to offer and their lenses are appealing even if some are older designs. Their newer designs, while excellent, are no bargains though.
Marksphoto: Can somebody tell me what jobs I can shoot in order to pay off an investment into this cameras system?
The problem is most people think that the professional photography world is weddings, portraits and sports.That is retail work that just doesn't pay.The best pay in the industry is in shooting for companies that have a need to market very expensive products and services. They will pay six figure rates for shoots that are part of a multi-million dollar ad campaign that are designed to generate tens or hundreds of millions of dollars in sales.
The Hasselblad has a full line of leaf shutter lenses that make it profoundly more useful with strobe. As strobes are a ubiquitous part of commercial photographer's workflow this definitely trumps the admittedly excellent Pentax. It also has a number of features dedicated to its Phocus software that aid the photographer and, most importantly, their clients.
Lokks like a solid upgrade with a competitive price at this level of the market.I am thinking it will be a hit in rental.
The Davinator: Or, just get the Pentax 645Z
The Pentax is a brilliant camera but I would love the Hasselblad for the leaf shutter lenses.
Photomonkey: So you pay extra to get a complicated mechanism that gives you an EVF.
Trying to please everyone is probably not he best strategy.
I see you can't read too well. I noted that it will cost a lot to add this feature to add an EVF. As for looking natural, I think what you are saying in your labored way is that you get to see an OVF.Whee! Pay more to add a feature you seem to dislike.Yes, a unique product that is a kludge as manufacturers will migrate toward the lower cost alternative.I have been using OVFs since before you were probably born and EVFs have significant advantages over the OVF.If you like OVFs, fine. But suggesting this dog's dinner will be a good thing is a bit of a stretch.
So you pay extra to get a complicated mechanism that gives you an EVF.
the-bunker: Very nice - but it's too heavy. If I had to carry that weight, then I'd choose FF
I use a variety of zooms and primes in FF for my work and the flexibility I have in my current 25-400 in my FZ-1000 is a revelation. I am far more productive in the job than carrying around two FF DSLRs with two different zooms to acheive what I can get in one compact camera. If 1kg is too much then the problem is certainly not solved by going FF.
Androole: Holy moly.
Wow, Sony really doesn't want to settle for 2nd in this category. Finally a worthwhile retort to the FZ1000 and then some.
Of course, that's serious pocket change. But for most people, it's all they'd ever need.
A good chance we will see a drop in street price. Especially if Panasonic responds.
The D600 gives you a shorter FL range and no 4K. All you get is FF and the one trick pony of shallow DOF.Unless you have used the 1 inch cameras you are unaware of the excellent IQ they deliver.But then again the hobbyists just enjoy peering at files at 400%.
Beckler8: This is so expensive I'd probly rather have the a6300 w/lens because I rarely need 24x zoom, so it's more of a specialist's camera. But more importantly the video quality I see on RX10ii youtube samples has none of the a7 type wide dynamic range look to it, whereas 6300 has more of it. It looks a bit too much like cheap home video.
The appeal for hobbyists is a single camera/lens solution.4K video is on most people's lists.
The more serious videographer could do a lot with this camera. Post processing of video is not a skill many posses. Thus a good camera can be thwarted by amateurish PP. The FF video one sees often is an exercise to show off shallow DOF thus leading to the fascination with those cameras. A good videographer will make an iPhone look magical. This camera makes it easier to bring home good footage for allow price.
Yay! We're number 5!
Wait while I restructure my fanboy narratives.
Idaho has its charms but judging from his photographs he is transfixed by snow.
Trust me, it does not get better. :/
Using SF as a comparison for affordability is not helpful. Everything looks cheaper than SF.
kierenlon: I wish companies would step away from this rush to release flawed products on the expectations the users are beta testers and they can patch it later.
Fuji is probably the most obvious example but can't be singles out. All the brands are doing it - nikon, canon, olympus, adobe etc.
Test, test some more, then have an alpha, beta, release candidate, release. Sick of release often, fix later attitude
I think most companies are under a lot of pressure to ship product, not perfect.Fuji at least can be relied on to continually find more performance through FW upgrades whereas others largely ignore an introduced product.
Mike Oo: The JPEG of the girl in the lounge is far better than the author's RAW conversion. People always chant RAW, RAW, RAW but in the end most people have no clue how to colour correct an image.
Which image are you looking at? There is a girl dancing with someone but none that is a girl alone as far as I can see.Every conversion from RAW that I see looks better than the JPEGs.
clicstudio: Is it me or the jpgs look better than the raws? Still both look pretty bad to me.
@virgil1612, I am referring to the two hotel images at the beginning shot at dusk. The one converted from RAW is clearly sharper and better rendered than the JPEG. Use the loupe feature and look at the detail in the palm fronds.
ManInTime: Dont think i have ever seen such an average cameras being pushed and pushed again and again to the main page for no good reason. some heavy marketing job is being done here.
Well at least it isn't like the car magazines that blather on about BMW, Mercedes, Porsche and Ferrari ad nauseum. This camera is not an average camera, it is an enthusiast camera but not at the top of the price heap. I would be sad if we had to read endless pap about Phase One and Hasselblad.