ski542002: Back end support! Was strongly considering A7RII to replace my aging DSIII & 7D. Going with the 5DSr & 7DII for one huge reason beyond all of the "image quality" talk; back end support. There is "zero support" with Sony. 2 weeks ago, I cracked the screen on my DSIII. In a busy period so I drove it to CPS support in Itasca, Il. and the NEXT DAY, they emailed me saying it was ready for pickup. $185 later and my camera functions like new. IF I would have needed to send it to NJ or CA., that would have only added 4 days to the turnaround time. When you're making $$ with your gear, lousy support is a deal breaker far more critical than most tech specs. CPS rocks!
So the real lesson here is buy a camera with a Sony sensor, but not Sony.
Photomonkey: "By default, it is set to automatically choose its subject. I found it did this quite poorly, often choosing whatever the nearest point was to the camera instead of the motorcycle cruising by. "
This is the story of Canon's AF.Yes, we now have menus full of settings with which to tweak the AF but in the end it struggles with subjects that are at all challenging. 12 FPS just means that even the experienced shooter blasts away and prays the key one is sharp.
Anyone remember Rob Galbraith? He was the one who first revealed that the emperor had no clothes.
My point is that Canon's AF is NOT as effective as they claim irrespective of what setting one uses. I have experimented for years with it, and while some improvement is noted in some cases, it is nowhere near awesome as so many claim.The real world has far more challenging subjects than a pink swimmer in blue water or a runner in white crossing a field with a dark background perpendicular to the camera. It is those shots, such as BIF , that challenge the camera and reveal its shortcomings.In addition, the very notion of calling something "automatic" implies simplicity that the waltz through the menus belies.
"By default, it is set to automatically choose its subject. I found it did this quite poorly, often choosing whatever the nearest point was to the camera instead of the motorcycle cruising by. "
Sports Shooter: who's is young enough to remember the Pentax LX? It had a good lens/accessories system build around it. I fell in love with the K1000 and was seriously thinking to get the LX but then I went for the Canon F1.The K-1 sounds like a great affordable FF camera but Pentax is lagging behind with the lens system.
I started with the H3V. Predecessor to the Spotmatic.
Rock solid camera that I used from 1969 to 1975 and gave to my mom who used it until she passed away in 1999. I then used it again until 2005.It was working flawlessly all those years and thousands of rolls of film.
disasterpiece: Is it just me or do the D810 images look better?
The 810 images are superb but do show moire in the images with fine lines. The Canon 5DsR looked very sharp but with blocked up shadows and moire.The Pentax was a beautiful result without the last increment of sharpness of the Nikon but the still-life only aspect handicaps it.
Photomonkey: This is a very important event as it heralds the entry of a very good optical manufacturer into the mass market of AF lenses.Samyang has a good reputation of making high performance optics. Now they can bring AF versions to a very popular mount that is currently being underserved.
I have noticed that many optics from highly regarded manufacturers are often described as being prone to flare. I am sure QC may be an issue but so far all the lenses I have purchased have been perfect thus enhancing my impression of "bang for the buck".
Distortion on a FF 14mm lens? Of course! SO do the other manufacturers. Lens profiles have solved that issue to a large extent.Price will go up. It is to be expected. But the promised jump in construction quality and the addition of AF make the value proposition. Moreover, they already start at a higher level of IQ than many of their competitors did. The development has already been done. They get to capitalize on the work that has gone on before.
This is a very important event as it heralds the entry of a very good optical manufacturer into the mass market of AF lenses.Samyang has a good reputation of making high performance optics. Now they can bring AF versions to a very popular mount that is currently being underserved.
princecody: I'll pass! I'd rather wait for the EM2 😀👍🏻👍🏻
I thought that was why they gave us the Df? ;)
RonHendriks: Iso 1.6 miljion is bullsh*t.
You need it for bullsh*t pictures.
joel avery: Has camera shutter speed improved via firmware before or is this a first?
Maybe the next firmware upgrade will advance the evolution of the apertures to full leaf shutters. Then we wont have to buy the CS lenses!
iAPX: I see it's not a camera for me, it's not probably a good replacement for a pocket mirrorless, or an action dslr. Some seems to find it "pricey", it surely is, but compared to what???
It's not pricey, it's under $100 per work day, or if you mind, with lenses and accessories largely under 10% of what a professional studio photographer will earn with it.
It's really pricey if you think about vacation's photographies, selfies, crush it while attached to a drone, compare it to a smartphone, if you want top put it on your car desk, or as a home-security camera. Do you really think it has been conceived for that?
Teila and Utphoto, I agree about the application of the Pentax. However the new Hasselblad lenses do have a max speed of 1/2000 which does not stink.
But the Hypersync of the Priolites are not perfect. Mark Kitaoka and a couple of others using them have reported uneven exposure with them and thus for more critical use that a critical client would demand would not work. The other problem with Hypersync is that it favors long duration flash thus demanding a specification that is in direct opposition to the desires of the market for short duration. HSS is a real kludge as the loss of power is so great one need thumping power to overcome that compromise.I like focal plane shutters for a lot of reasons but the flash sync and the current workarounds are not one of them.
Pentax has a lot to offer and their lenses are appealing even if some are older designs. Their newer designs, while excellent, are no bargains though.
Marksphoto: Can somebody tell me what jobs I can shoot in order to pay off an investment into this cameras system?
The problem is most people think that the professional photography world is weddings, portraits and sports.That is retail work that just doesn't pay.The best pay in the industry is in shooting for companies that have a need to market very expensive products and services. They will pay six figure rates for shoots that are part of a multi-million dollar ad campaign that are designed to generate tens or hundreds of millions of dollars in sales.
The Hasselblad has a full line of leaf shutter lenses that make it profoundly more useful with strobe. As strobes are a ubiquitous part of commercial photographer's workflow this definitely trumps the admittedly excellent Pentax. It also has a number of features dedicated to its Phocus software that aid the photographer and, most importantly, their clients.
Lokks like a solid upgrade with a competitive price at this level of the market.I am thinking it will be a hit in rental.
The Davinator: Or, just get the Pentax 645Z
The Pentax is a brilliant camera but I would love the Hasselblad for the leaf shutter lenses.
Photomonkey: So you pay extra to get a complicated mechanism that gives you an EVF.
Trying to please everyone is probably not he best strategy.
I see you can't read too well. I noted that it will cost a lot to add this feature to add an EVF. As for looking natural, I think what you are saying in your labored way is that you get to see an OVF.Whee! Pay more to add a feature you seem to dislike.Yes, a unique product that is a kludge as manufacturers will migrate toward the lower cost alternative.I have been using OVFs since before you were probably born and EVFs have significant advantages over the OVF.If you like OVFs, fine. But suggesting this dog's dinner will be a good thing is a bit of a stretch.
So you pay extra to get a complicated mechanism that gives you an EVF.
the-bunker: Very nice - but it's too heavy. If I had to carry that weight, then I'd choose FF
I use a variety of zooms and primes in FF for my work and the flexibility I have in my current 25-400 in my FZ-1000 is a revelation. I am far more productive in the job than carrying around two FF DSLRs with two different zooms to acheive what I can get in one compact camera. If 1kg is too much then the problem is certainly not solved by going FF.
Androole: Holy moly.
Wow, Sony really doesn't want to settle for 2nd in this category. Finally a worthwhile retort to the FZ1000 and then some.
Of course, that's serious pocket change. But for most people, it's all they'd ever need.
A good chance we will see a drop in street price. Especially if Panasonic responds.
The D600 gives you a shorter FL range and no 4K. All you get is FF and the one trick pony of shallow DOF.Unless you have used the 1 inch cameras you are unaware of the excellent IQ they deliver.But then again the hobbyists just enjoy peering at files at 400%.