looks amazing..certainly a must buy for any person not owning a modern DLSR yer.
but still ..i am waiting for the true jump in tech ..something like the ability to not worry about the focus any more . i still find that one to be the hardest to deal with . i can deal with the proper PP soft with almost anything i shoot .it is thanks to the sony amazing sensors..but its still nearly impossible to deal with a shot out of focus ,or focus taken on the wrong point. i could care less about 4k compared to that.
Thunder123: Haters gonna Hate. Love reading all the CanNikon whiners on here.
canon who ? ...oh you mean that company that has not innovated anything since 2009 .all that remains of them is their superb glass.
so when it comes down to it ...the details always remain the same but smartphone cameras deffer by all other aspects from one to another. albeit those other details can be crucial indeed and make all the difference it doesn't change the fact that its still a tiny sensor that has limitations.
you can either accept those and settle for a 300$ -200$ smatphone from current lineup or go all nuts and get something that costs 600$ and gives you a lesser result than an automated pass through dxo would do .
i prefer the latter myself .
i love sony ..but it seems to me as if they put THIS specific cam only to fill in the gap in the lines for consumers who failed to move on to either the higher end A7...or the E mount superb A6000 .
at least the price is highly competitive
PhoMaz: I've owned (for work) all three big name superzooms: Canon G3x, Panasonic FZ1000, and now the Sony RX10ii and the Sony has by far the best build quality, actual working photo quality, and the best video for a working photographer. Not to mention the quality of the lens that comes attached to this camera, the reason the price might seem a little lofty, but how much does a 24-200 2,8 Carl Zeiss Lens cost on it's own?
speaking as one with sony gear which i love dearly i highly doubt the claims you made .
reality shows as people can see in the review test side by side..that sony extra sharpness is not that great and comes with artifacts attached to it ..thank you ..but i know better apps to handle that. as for glass..leica glass is just as good and the ziess ..speaking from personal experience. given the choice i would take the fz1000 for the bigger reach for far lesser money ..on the 1inch category it is the perfect bridge cam in my opinion . and as for build ..i owned far lesser panasonic cams...declared or not declared they are tough as hell . still think a good old Sony APS-c DSLR is a better choice overall ..but for those who seek these kind of solutions..fz1000 still rules .
rinkos: i owned panasonic at the past and i own a sony dslr at present ..saying it so i won't be seen as biased ...now having said that..panasonic in my opinion makes the best bridge cams around , and the fz1000 is a kind of a super bridge cam . i think Sony with its a6000 mirrorless area dominates that category . but on the 1 inch level ,maybe aside from the QX detachable novelty they got going , panasonic simply puts out a far more attracting and useful solution.
the rx's reach is simply too small and with the 1 inch size u can't crop too much yet . the pana spoils you in that regard with the superb leica glass . so if i was on the market for a bridge cam that would definitely be my first choice .
since i am no stranger to PP my friend ..that 1 stop is really not a big issue for me . further more ..panasonic are very very hardy cameras to begin with in my experience . and as much as i love me sony , its a more delicate construct to begin with .
so in a swoosh of magic any distortion issues are solved if they exist in the first place...but things i can't solve are not being able to AF on my object which is an RX issue . and being an avid PP guy and a pixel peeper supreme :P ..i can spot very well the artifacts in the so called "sharper' image of the rx . on the 1 inch i would rather get the fz1000 picture to work with so i can use some quality softwares like nik sharpener that won't create those ugly artifacts. i will not pay an arm and a leg for that 1inch cam ..the original fz1000 price was too high in my mind as well ..now its more "logical"
i owned panasonic at the past and i own a sony dslr at present ..saying it so i won't be seen as biased ...now having said that..panasonic in my opinion makes the best bridge cams around , and the fz1000 is a kind of a super bridge cam . i think Sony with its a6000 mirrorless area dominates that category . but on the 1 inch level ,maybe aside from the QX detachable novelty they got going , panasonic simply puts out a far more attracting and useful solution.
ttran88: The whole month of August we had articles after articles of praises for the A7RII and after each article DPR would be accused of being on Sony's payroll. Now we have this damning article from DPR. Did Sony miss a payment? Or is Canon and Nikon paying more?
more likely its just fanboys fighting fanboys usually .
i will never buy a full frame myself though and this is only "their" problem .
let just hope it get fixed...
on a side note..at least sony actually innovates their models..rather then keeping that old classes system like in cannon's and nikon's case .
GabrielZ: With the vast majority of the smartphone industry taken up by devices from Apple and Samsung who both now use their own proprietary SoC designs. Is their enough of it left for Qualcomm's designs to continue to make a profit over the long run?
Huawei, Xiaomi each has almost 16% of the chinese market...for starters ..should not have to explain that there are a lot more people in china and asia in general than USA and Europe combined .
Scales USA: •16 fps continuous shooting (with metering and focus fixed at the first shot)
The usefulness of this feature is mostly lost on me. Why would I want 16 FPS for a still subject or one where lighting does not change.
1 in focus shot plus 15 oof shots does not sound worthwhile.
As to sales, I don't have any actual sales info, so it may be a best seller or a bust. It does have some nice features, but 16FPS with no change in focus is not one of them.
stacking macro shots man . filming constant movement like fire and the aurora lights if you are in the region . your kids in the same pool . sure . nothing beats the AF constant tracking with 16 fps .but still lots to do with that .
J Parker: Just a word of advice -- you owe it to yourself to actually use this camera -- and then draw your conclusions. This camera is phenomenal. Even as a stills only camera, this is one of the best handling and performing cameras I've experienced. Excellent controls and a well thought out touchscreen that adapt to you, not the other way around. The one thing that amazed me most it that there was almost no 'breaking in' period -- the G7 is almost immediately intuitive. An extension of not only the hand, but of the eye and mind. I enjoy shooting with the mirrorless cameras I have from Sony and Olympus -- but this is truly an incredible camera -- literally state of the art.
This camera is as elegant and exceptional as a Steinway Piano (even if you're not a pianist, play a note on a Steinway and you'll see what I mean...). Well done Panasonic.
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under specs section it would also be nice to see a current price tab as well .
Skipper494: If you'll pardon the pun, I fail to see the point, as most advanced photographers are used to point focus and exposure, with recomposition, so just a few points in the center would suffice most of us.
if camera makers would make cameras only for "Advanced pro's " they would still be stuck in the stills era.
the whole point of them becoming more sophisticated is to take as much load as possibly can to give you just one issue and that is the right composition .
really man..with this attitude humanity would still be stuck in the stone age.
vscd: Let's see what happens after Canon comes up with a new sensor with equal or better dynamic range than Sony. You will see there is nothing left for Sony to be proud of ;)
[...]Sony's ergonomics vary all over the map. They usually throw way too much garbage in our faces, designing their cameras for people who talk about photography more than actually do it.[...] Ken Rockwell, yesterday ;)
lets also see what happens when pigs start flying .
who cares...this is the same situation it has been for ever since late 2008 ish .
Canon just put out one sensor after the other ,barely improving them , especially regarding two very important PP aspects..color richness and DR .
every non fan boy consumer hopes they will step up and present a competition that will only do us , the consumer ,good.but they did not thus far and are not showing any signs of it .
so keep on pining and hating and imagining new sensors..."the rest of us will keep enjoying all this new richness , and relish in the fact that some manufactures actually listen the what people want them to make.
Sdaniella: the fastest throughput from large sensor Sony/Nikon is from Sony's APS-C SLT-A77/II series is (24/25mp x 12fps = ) 288/300 mp/s
the latest FF Nikon D810/A series is only (36/37mp x 5fps = ) 180/185 mp/sunderlapping Nikon D4s (16/17mp x 11fps = ) 176/187 mp/s(given it would be expected shorter/smaller sensor circuitry distances&areas translate into faster rates)
it is odd that Sony would cap its FF 12mp A7s at a very low 5fps ... except it may be unintentional due to NR limitations for its lowest light highest ISO emphasis
it's nice to see a slight jump for Sony FF speeds even if still far behind their APS-C speedsthis new FF Sony A7R II is still only (42/43mp x 5fps = ) 210/215 mp/s
meanwhile:Samsung's APS-C NX-1 throughput speeds remains a mind-boggling lead at (28/31mp x 15fps = ) 420/465 mp/s
Canon's latest FF 5DS/R series throughput speeds are leading at (51/53mp x 5fps = ) 255/265 mp/s
what might Canon fit in its new Cine 5D Mk IV? Max 8fps x 32/33mp? (256/264 mp/s)
i agree ...they have gone all those extra miles to create such a camera only to fail on that last mile with an ability they already posses the know how to ?
if that camera would have 10-12fps it would be truly perfect as one pro camera who does it all .
4.7 with 2600 battery ..so so 2012 :)
dash2k8: I don't understand the hate for this thing. Scrolling through the comments, the majority of comments have condemned this as a tool that props egos and fuels self-esteem. Never have I seen the word "narcissist" appear so many times in one place. If you don't like this, get a Phantom and your problems are solved.
that's cause most people are just unimaginative herd.
its a perfect tool for a family's trip capture the moment kind of thing. and of course a very very cool and finally handy toy .
for people who likes extreme sport obviously and architects who want to get a feel of the place.
it costs less than paying a chopper flight to take photos of an area.
i wants it !!!
i have no idea what to do with other than put it on my cat ..but i want it !!! :P