Cameras I'd rather buy: X100s, X-E1, OM-D EM-5, NEX-6, Sigma DP
This is a solid fail.
shutterdragon: Welcome improvements! I still want Fuji to support in-camera TIFF.
Personally, I agree about the TIFFs. Sure, they're big files, but at SD cards are large enough nowadays that having the option would be nice. I'd take a TIFF over a RAW file. Also, it's a proper image at that point, camera settings would be taken into account, and they would still offer editing flexibility. It's better for archving/storage, especially in the future.
I don't know the details of TIFF, and its flexibility in editing when compared to RAW, but to me, having a TIFF option would be great.
Chris_in_Osaka: I've owned an E-1, E-300, E-3, E-420 and E-620. None of those cameras come close to the experience I have shooting with my OM-D.
I even dumped my 5D Mark II after realizing the OM-D is so right for me.
Now, going back to full frame in the future is a possibility if I find I need more shallow depth of field, which I really don't. Going back to regular 4/3'S? Never.
I think most people who have switched from 4/3's to the micro 4/3's in the form of the OM-D would agree. I'd rather see them shut down their 4/3's development and invest that money in further micro 4/3's improvements. Oly can't afford to have the 4/3's albatross around it's neck weighing it down in an increasingly exciting and competitive mirrorless market.
Also, never mind camera bodies, they also can't afford to have a factory in Tatsuno, Japan producing super high grade lenses virtually nobody buys.
@marike6: NOT having a pro system isn't so bad when pros in many areas don't shoot with 4/3 anyway. Sensor, low-light performance, AF, and features have all moved on since the E-5, and pro users of 4/3 would have had to move on in order to keep up with their peers.
My feeling is that if Olympus abandons 4/3 users, they'd be abandoning mostly hobbyists and weekend shooters, not pros. Besides, a system is as good as dead when lenses aren't released or upgraded.
When m4/3 cameras were first released, I couldn't understand why they were necessary when they weren't much smaller. The E-4XX series of DSLRs were so small that I was planning to purchase an E-420 and a small prime lens to complement my Nikon DSLR system. Several years on, m4/3 has become very popular. It only makes sense for Olympus to move on rather than 'save face'. You may want them to continue, but there's nowhere for the DSLR market to go but down, and Olympus is sinking faster than Canon and Nikon.
brianj: Interesting, it has the same size and type of sensor at the canon SX260HS, yet has not got as wide angle nor anywhere near as much zoom. Ah, I see, its called enthusiast because it sports a f1.8 aperture lens.
I wondered what the name 'enthusiast' meant!
It obviously refers to people who would get excited to use such a camera rather than their mobile phone. ;)
Richard Murdey: If you are reading that thinking "why on earth..." the answer is clearly "because he can". He has the lenses, cameras, and test bench. Even if the result is what we all intuitively understand - a lens is only as good as the camera it's on, and a camera is only as good as the lens on the front - it's nice to see the numbers fall out to support that.
No one should be using that kind of information to help them make a buying decision though. A minute difference in resolution one way or another is simply not "field relevant": It does not significantly influence the quality of photos you can take, or the facility with which you can take them...
People are talking about this review as if it is a proper lens review. It's not. Well, at least not all of it.
If he wanted to compare apples with apples, he would have used a D600 for his test. He didn't because he wanted to take the Nikon 24-70 mm, which is worse than the Canon version (fwiw, I'm a Nikon guy), and outresolve a Canon lens that's better.
It's a round-a-bout way of saying, "It doesn't matter".
Also, if you want to see a proper review, always look for Canon vs Sigma/Tamron reviews, not Canon vs Nikon. These tests are mostly irrelevant unless you're not a DSLR owner and wish to choose how to spend your $5,000.
smatty: Still no minimum shutter speed setting in Auto ISO!
Fuji, why haven't you been listening to the hundreds of requests from X-Pro 1 (and recently XE-1) users for the past year?
And even dpreview has pointed out the lack of this feature...
ChrishsChan, I don't think you even understand what we're talking about, not only regarding the minimum shutter speed feature, but Auto ISO in general.
The Auto ISO feature of the X-Pro 1 doesn't have a minimum shutter speed feature, and with the 35 mm, the minimum shutter speed is roughly 1/50th of a second, and cannot be changed manually by the user.
Shamael: we need a 30/1.4 and a 19/1.4 or 1.2, not a 2.8. The 2 lenses in 2.8 are good, but too slow. The 30/1.4 for dslr make a huge tandem with NEX and adapters, only problem is the bulky size. In E-Mount with AF it would be the absolute hammer. In this matter, Sigma plays Sony's game, the 20/2.8 and 16/2.8 seem to inspire them. Toooooo slow, is that hard to understand. And those who make fast ones use 35 mm, what is a bit too long again, 30 is better, and 20 is ok too.
There must be a reason. Perhaps it has something to do with the very short flange distance that prevents them from making a small prime? Perhaps they'd need to make the lens much larger in order for it to be good with the E-mount? I really don't know, but since it's not advantageous for Sigma to create a lens that doesn't sell due to poor specs, I'd have to assume that there's a reason for the slow primes on offer by both Sony and Sigma.
It's also the reason I would never buy a NEX system camera, and opted for the Fuji X-Pro 1.
Roman Korcek: So Sigma will offer a redesigned 30mm F/1.4 in addition to the new 35mm F/1.4? Is that not overkill?
Not really, considering the difference in their size and weight. The 30 mm f/1.4 has always been very small, and if I had a DX camera, I'd rather have the 30 mm rather than the 35 mm.
nawknai: Hi gtvone,
I'm a big fan of bags, even if they're not intended for the camera market!
I just wanted to tell you that as someone who likes his bags, I wouldn't buy a "suburban" camera bag, made of black nylon, that looks like it was intended strictly for gear. It looks like an electronics bag, which goes against the ethos of this line of bags, I presume.
Furthermore, none of these bags have good dimensions for its intended function,. The Sub Urban Disguise 5 sounds like a good size, but its proportions are too awkward to function well or look good. An 8" long x 8.5" high bag? Awkward, especially for mirrorless camera users.
Personally, I'd rather buy a regular shoulder bag (I hate to use the term "messenger bag" unless you can cinch the bag tightly to your back) and a camera insert into that bag.
Also, if you're going to make a bag with a flap that's not awkward, perhaps it's best to make a flap that isn't too long. That way, when you open the flap upwards and towards your body, you can still see over the flap without much issue.
And make sure the flap isn't secured with velcro!
Computer Controlled: If only they would have made the lens a 1.4, or even a 1.8. I sold off my X100 for the X-Pro1, but i do miss the X100. If they would have made the lens fast than an f2, i'd be all over it again!!
Exactly. An f/1.4 lens would have little benefit at a high cost in terms of weight and size.
If you wouldn't have sold your X100 if it had an f/1.8 lens, then you don't really understand cameras all that well.
digby dart: I hope someone at Fuji is reading these comments, for old blokes who cut their teeth on film with a 50mm lens, most of us had a 35mm as well. From what I understood this was the Cartier Bresson kit, 2 cameras, each with a fast prime.
50mm is likely closest to what the eye sees.
This x100s looks like closing in on getting the camera part just right, maybe another 1-2 generations away, though even now a 50mm f1.4 (or faster) fixed lens equivalent version would be just the ticket and the one I would likely buy first - later with a 35mm equivalent over the other shoulder.
For me at least, photographs don't get better, only the gear does. In any event very well done Fuji, you are developing the X series into something very special indeed.
I have an X100, and my favourite focal length is 50 mm. I also own the X-Pro 1 and 35 mm prime.
Funny thing is that I actually think that the X100 is far more flexible, and if I had to carry around only one camera on a vacation in a big city, or countryside, or a friend's house, etc etc, it would be the X100 over the X-Pro 1 with 35 mm lens.
digitalanalog: If Nikon and Canon won't start to make retro-designed cameras ...
Forget retro cameras. Just make a decent mirrorless.
I think Nikon's mirrorless cameras are better than Canon's one model so far. I know Nikon gets a lot of flack for their 1-series, but they're full of very innovative features that will get you some photos a lot easier. The Canon has camera, a primarily photographic tool, has........good video?
Tape5: First it was Jap this Jap that - copycat brainless tech thieves the Japanese. Look at it now, all that nonsense has turned into high respect for the Japanese electronic and technical mastery. Now everyone wants to make sure that theirs is Japanese.
For all the zombies who missed the first show of prejudice and stupidity that ran for nearly four decades, you can start a brand new show, booting Korean technology and feeling better about yourselves ( and your revered Japanese brands ).
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Thank you for the flashback commentary, 2007.
99ISO: What' the point of a camera with the size and price of a DSLR and the sensor of a compact?
It's like an RX100, but better in terms of size (the RX100 was too small, even for my small hands), lens options, and features (better than any other camera on the market).
I'm happy with my Fuji X-Pro 1, but I don't think this is a bad camera. Also, the form is excellent. Other than the NEX cameras, most mirrorless cameras don't have a good enough grip.
Neil Morgan: Somebody didnt pass maths ? Quote from above "the 1.4 million dot display (800 x 600 RGB pixels)"
It's not a "pretty" camera, but it's not that ugly either.
Best lens lineup by far.
I don't get it. Are there cameras just that bad that they don't even get a mention in the EVIL/CSC race? All you hear about are m4/3, NEX, and Fuji, even here. I just bought a Fuji X-Pro 1, but if Samsung had better reviews (and I could find them at a local shop), I would have certainly taken a look at Samsung.
Jorginho: I always feel sad when I hear about this system. Look at and it looks really nice and also distinctive. Samsungs lenses are also performing (reasonably) well and some are excellent. Soon after the start I started to wonder what on earth Samsung was thinking. They started behind and kept on trailing m43s especially. Also in my views inexplicable failures like the NX200/210 that does not allow you to use an EVF.
And now these very nice looking lenses....Again, following Oly it seems with its 9-18mm lens and the 45 f1.8 seems to be similar to the Oly too (although it translates into 60 instead of 90 mm of course).
Samsung needs to wake up fast and start to get rid of gimicks or less than necessary things like iFn on the lens. WiFi in the cam etc. But get the users an NX200 with built in EVF, a cam that has no problems with buffers and enormous files, get the sensors to perform better than they do now (although base ISO looks really supern I have to say).
It seems like you're the one with a reading comprehension problem....
My ideal camera is the Fuji XPro-1 with the buttons on the back re-arranged a tiny bit, a better EVF (I don't use it, but why not?), and a larger OVF (the same size as my X100's OVF).