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Debankur Mukherjee: Nikon D600 is overprized......to be really affordable it should have been available at the price of D300s.......maybe Nikon wants to protect its APSC market........
How did you decide on this price?
Nikon decided on it based on reality.
The outer shell of the new lenses looks really different than the crumpled plastic of old. Those were nice, solid builds, but these do look great.
Sorry, but I haven't bought a Sigma lens since the 50 mm, and I've always had a soft spot for the company. :O
Congratulations Hasselblad, you may have created the first camera to ever be contested by PETA.
nawknai: The sad thing is that there's nothing "Hasselblad" about this product. It's a Japanese guy in Swedish clothes.
You may argue that Hassy are, like Leica, one of the few photography companies that can pull off selling a $6000 mirrorless camera, but Leica can because Leica make Leica cameras, and they exist mostly in their own Leica bubble and come up with products that they like and understand. They are auteurs. While everyone else is involved in pushing the market, pricing their products in tiers that align with their competitors, engaging in price wars, and coming up with features that out-do their competitors, Leica is just making high quality stuff that they enjoy using. People like small-scale individualism, whether it's a small business on Etsy, or an old camera company.
Hasselblad is a photography company, but this product does not clearly have Hasselblad's fingerprint deeply engrained, and so it won't be deemed worthy of its price tag.
Leica's primary digital consumer product aren't their Panny LX5 variants. I know that Leica does "rebrand" their lesser consumer cameras, and knew before I posted earlier. However, I do see those products as meaningless "stocking stuffers". They're a joke. It's like Canon selling an $80 point and shoot. They put no effort into those types of generic cameras, and if they're crap, it doesn't tarnish Canon's image as a camera company (no pun intended). They're not indicative of the type of products that Canon really produces!!
For Hassy, this really IS a real consumer product that they're betting their image on. It's $6000. This is a $6000 P.O.S., and it's the only Hasselblad product that many photographers are going to know of. Not every photographer is 40+ years old. I'm 32 years old, been shooting for over a decade, and have never seen a Hasselblad. I don't even know what they look like. Well....I do now. They look like s---.
The sad thing is that there's nothing "Hasselblad" about this product. It's a Japanese guy in Swedish clothes.
You may argue that Hassy are, like Leica, one of the few photography companies that can pull off selling a $6000 mirrorless camera, but Leica can because Leica make Leica cameras, and they exist mostly in their own Leica bubble and come up with products that they like and understand. They are auteurs. While everyone else is involved in pushing the market, pricing their products in tiers that align with their competitors, engaging in price wars, and coming up with features that out-do their competitors, Leica is just making high quality stuff that they enjoy using. People like small-scale individualism, whether it's a small business on Etsy, or an old camera company.
Hasselblad is a photography company, but this product does not clearly have Hasselblad's fingerprint deeply engrained, and so it won't be deemed worthy of its price tag.
samhain: You know what's really funny?
Photographers are supposed to be the 'creative types', working in a creative industry.
Yet all I see are a bunch of fuddy duddy negative comments that sound like something close-minded grandparents would say.
This product is extremely unique, interesting and so far outside of the box it isn't even funny.
You would think people would be more supportive of this kind of thinking, even if they aren't interested in buying one.
I for one applaud Sony/Hasselblad for their weird, funky new camera.
Bravo Hassony, bravo!!
Dude, their marketing department is aiming for gullible people like you.
It's just a NEX-7 in fancy clothes. Creative people want to create, and for anybody interested in photography, that means taking photos.
I'm not quite sure how you'd define a "creative person", but our interpretation of the term is, obviously, quite different.
Finally! I've been waiting for a camera to match my gold boots!!
FTW: If we wait 3 or 4 generations further, we get one at 1800$, just like at all other brands. A bit expensive for a FF NEX with a 24 mix Sony sensor.
Nope, because Leica's aren't expensive due to the reasons that other companies can make an expensive camera. Leica was even expensive when people were using film, and the same type of film that cheap cameras could use, no less!
nickthetasmaniac: DPR - why have several release announcements today fallen straight to the bottom of the page, while the 6d preview rays at the top?
@cre8unique: Did you not understand what Andy actually said?
News releases are just in chronological order. They didn't write those. They simply publish them. Their content, which is referring to their own hands-on previews, and their own opinions, are valued more on their own site than a ho-hum press release that's duplicated at every website.
GabrielZ: OMG I'm smitten! This is the Leica M-series I've been waiting for! Beautiful, versatile, fantastic. When Leica released the M-Monochrom a while back, I lamented the fact they didn't release an M10 and went on to give my wish list of features a potential future M10 might have, and for the most part this is it! All I have to do now is get rich so I can afford to buy one of these...ha ha, fat chance but I can dream!
Why the hell would I go and search for one of your posts? Are they that important?
I understand the new feature. I was just wondering whetherpeople really asking for focus peaking from their Leica?
I understand why a Fuji, Sony NEX, Samsung NX, or Panny/Oly m4/3 user would ask for it --- their systems suck for manual focus. And DSLRs......forget MF. In most situations, they're horrible with MF, and pointless since you're still relying on a green dot to appear in the OVF when you achieve focus. The camera still determines whether the image is in focus. The only thing the user does is drive the lens instead of the AF motor.
Rangefinders are already great at fast, accurate manual focus. Focus peaking is a great feature, but I don't know why you'd buy a rangefinder if you didn't think you could achieve focus manually. I suppose there may be an old Leica user who wants to upgrade, but doesn't have good enough eyesight to use a rangefinder anymore?
GabrielZ: OMG I'm smitten! This is the Leica M-series I've been waiting for! Beautiful, versatile, fantastic. When Leica released the M-Monochrom a while back, I lamented the fact they didn't release an M10 and went on to give my wish list of features a potential future M10 might have, and for the most part this is it! All I have to do now is get rich so I can afford to buy one of these...ha ha, fat chance but I can dream!
Yeah, and what feature was that, faster manual focus?
The M9-P looks better due to the lack of the red dot! I'd rather have that instead of this.
If they wanted to sell a barebones Leica, which is already bare-bones, why not just sell the new M (M10) without video, and sell it for $1000 less?? Make it $6000, and make the M cost $7000. If someone wants Live View and video recording so badly, they get to pay for it.
nawknai: Am I mistaken if I say that this D600 appears to be a D800, but with a 24 MP sensor and a semi-plastic body? If so, then this is a great deal.
I expect the AF to be slightly worse as well, but that the differences will not show themselves in most shooting situations.
Nevermind. It's the same disasterous AF as in D7000.
ThomasH_always: How can someone (dpreview reviewer) call D600 fairly low costs, whereas we are confronted with a "price surprise" on a large scale? Rumor was, and expectation was around $1500, and I would say: That would be enough for a body like that, with D7000/D5000 like controls.
For me its a clear and decisive "no buy".
No, that was a rumour. Rumours aren't necessarily accurate, but you chose to believe it and raised your hopes to that rumour.
Personally, I figured $1999 would be the starting price, and it's close enough.
Am I mistaken if I say that this D600 appears to be a D800, but with a 24 MP sensor and a semi-plastic body? If so, then this is a great deal.
I expect the AF to be slightly worse as well, but that the differences will not show themselves in most shooting situations.
HopeSpringsEternal: prices are too high. The 35mm f/1.8 needs to cost around $250 at most.
Why "$250 at most"?
What world do you live in?
I didn't realize it was going to be so small. "That's what she said!"
Uh.......judging from the photos, if Sony had just made it as large as an X-100, they could have fit a built-in EVF and made everyone happy!
Matt1645f4: If this was just $300 cheaper i'd not even think twice about buying it i love fuji cameras and there lenses are great, and as for retro design, its a proven working system thats not been improved or bettered in over 50 years. and to call people old Cane is just showing your own immaturity.
Actually, I believe that for what you're getting, the X-E1 is a bargain, with or without the zoom lens.
JackM: Now if they make a 23mm (35mm equivalent) f/2 *pancake*, I am IN!!
They're making a 27 mm f2.8 pancake. Not sure if that fits your needs well enough, but to me, that's close enough!!
I don't mind a few zooms being introduced, as long as Fuji continue making those sweet, sweet primes!
I'm looking to get into this system with a 35 mm, then 18 mm, and then possibly the 27 mm pancake because it's tiny and a good focal length.