Thomas Kachadurian: If it had OIS i would buy one tomorrow. Without it it will be unusable to anyone who isn't naturally steady.
Unusable? How so?
Other than my Nokia 925 and 930, I've never had an actual camera with IBIS on it. Lenses? Sure, but OIS made them larger than they had to be, for sure.
zodiacfml: how much is it these days?my previous comment for this device was to by a $500 RX100 and the other $500 to buy a flagship smartphone such as an S6 or i6.
That would completely defeat the purpose of owning one device, but you can make that comparison if you think that's fair.
MikeF4Black: I'd always prefer my Tumi messenger bag, black ballistic nylon, to which an appropriate Billingham insert has been added. It holds a D800E with one prime easily, a lot of other stuff, an iPad and some documents.
And it doesn't look like a murse, it looks the business. And fortunately it doesn't "sport" a red dot.
Or just get a model without the red dot. Jeebus....
FinDERP: Looks a lovely bag but it's way out of the range I'd be willing to pay for something like this - even if I had a large disposable budget I'd sooner spend it on lenses and probably large format gear too large to fit in anything carryable anyway haha.
I appreciate that ONA is taking time to answer comments and queries here though, that's really a great effort and I wish more companies would act like this!
The bag I had mentioned earlier.
bigdaddave: I could never be seen with a bag that is worth more than the gear inside it.
What an utter waste of money
That bag is worth more than the gear you have inside it?
Damn, that sucks. Sorry to hear that.
ARB1: Bag without the Leica dot $59.99, with the Leica dot $399.99.
Your real problem happens when they they try to slash the outside of your bag open. ;). I believe it's a bit more common for backpacks because you don't have eyes in the back of your head, and your back is less sensitive to touch, and so you're less likely to notice.
I suppose a way to lock your bag shut would prevent opportunistic theft(?).
@FinDERP: Ever heard of Topo Design? They make several bags that may suit your needs, although there's no padding because they're not camera bags. They're still appropriately sized though, and one model was sort of designed for fishing!!
nawknai: I'm a huge fan of bags, and own lots of them. I don't mean camera bags, but all bags. I'm a guy, and I'm not overly trendy otherwise, but I like bag design.
With that declared, I'll say this about "messenger" bags: The flaps are usually a issue for camera bags because they prevent you from reaching your camera quickly. That, and flaps on some bags are too long. If you include a flap, it needs to be shorter.
I understand that a flap is generally regarded as being more weather resistant than simply using a zipper, but I'd personally rather have a zipper anyway. I know people don't like them because plastic zippers feel cheap, while metal zippers may scratch your gear. However, a waterproof zip may work for some people.
Personally, I don't have a camera bag anymore. My X100 sits in its hard-case, and I wear it across the shoulder. Same goes for my X-Pro1, and if I bring another lens, I keep it in whichever man-bag I'm carrying.
EDIT: The Roma has a good accessible opening!
If you included a zipper, perhaps make the zipper pathway (sorry, don't know what to call it) "U"-shaped rather than straight so that the opening is bigger? If someone wants to leave the bag completely open, they could fold the resulting flat downwards and into what is currently the laptop/tablet section?
The result would be a closed bag when you need it, and a completely open bag when you want quick and frequent access to the inside?
To be honest, I don't know what the solution is. I have a particular Porter man-bag with a top opening that I frequently carry my X100 in sometimes (no padding, but in hard case), and I really like it because the bag has no flap. It uses a zipper straight across, and its opening is fairly large, but I can image many other people complain that their 5D-Mk3 is too big to fit through it. That's why I suggest a zipper that isn't straight across.
I'm a huge fan of bags, and own lots of them. I don't mean camera bags, but all bags. I'm a guy, and I'm not overly trendy otherwise, but I like bag design.
Dazzer8888: I'd be curious to know: does it say "Leica" on the outside? If so, it would seem to be a bit of a theft magnet. If not, then i might get one for my sony A7! ;)
You can get one for the A7, but the regular Berlin is the same bag, except without the red interior. I guess it doesn't matter whether it's the "Leica Edition" or not. It's really a matter of how much you like red.
falconeyes: If you switch over to DPR's report about Sony supplying 40% of all sensors now, you'll find the reason for this.
This article mentions that after Sony inked the iPhone6 contract, it is unable to supply enough sensors to other vendors, including HTC, Samsung and others. It was in the news already, folks ...
BTW, it ethically absolutely correct to use multiple sources for a consumer procduct for anything but a products core component. So, for a car you can vary windshiled manufacturers but not the engine. And for a smart phone, you can of course vary the camera module supplier. But the same wouldn't apply to a system camera.
I'm just glad that the people who believe this is grounds for a lawsuit aren't actually lawyers, and don't know anything of the law.
Luke Kaven: Samsung isn't off the hook by saying that their "specifications" are generic enough that both camera modules satisfy it.
The question here is whether reviews, based on the superior camera module, induce false consumer expectations of quality, used as incentive to buy, when the final product may or may not match those expectations. Would the inferior camera module have earned a number 1 rank in the reviews or merely a number 2 or 3?
Keep firmly in mind here: it doesn't matter whether you or I care one way or another. For better or worse, you can expect a thousand lawyers to be suiting up for this one as we type.
They never guaranteed you a particularly manufacturer for the camera, so as long as they didn't rig reviews by ensuring that all reviewers got a Sony, I don't think they'll need their lawyers.
If someone bought an S6 or Edge because of what they thought was definitely a Sony sensor, then that's their own assumption that wasn't quite right.
Just a Photographer: Its a large marketshare but it is actually less then I had expected it to be.
Actually, that wouldn't be a monopoly, technically speaking. ;) Even if Sony had 80% of the market, they still wouldn't have a monopoly.
Monopolies are strongly discouraged, but having a large marketshare on its own doesn't make one a monopoly. Ikea doesn't have a monopoly, and yet in some markets, they own it.
Really? I always figured their share to be well over 50%. :O
Canon takes a bite, Panasonic takes a small bite, Samsung takes an even smaller bite, and then there are companies like Aptina.
After seeing several ISO 6400 photos, I think ISO 3200 is probably the max you'd want to use.
That's still incredible for a phone though. I'm a fan. May need to get one for myself.
The photo is keepable if you wanted to.
Doesn't sound like much praise, but it's actually a huge compliment.
They call me Hans: I shutter (no pun intended) to think how much the phone that employs this will cost...
It's shudder. No pun for you!
And iPhones already cost a lot! I think that the entire "smart"phone idea has lost a lot of steam, and the camera is one of the few places where a company can try to differentiate itself.
digiart: I may be wrong but it looks like Apple is yet again copying other companies technology...
Actually, I think they're copying another company's idea. Even if Olympus isn't the first to do it, they should be considered the company who brought the idea back from the dead and popularized the idea once again. Apple hadn't heard of it before, but when they did (because Olympus was in the news...), they thought it was a great idea, and figured out a slightly different method to produce the same thing.