Cane: Does Nikon try to make all their lenses as big and plastic as possible? Someone needs to serve them pancakes for breakfast and see if anything clicks in their heads.
Retrofocus designs are necessary for any focal length < flange distance. They're basically inverted teles. So, yes, they're going to be longer than your nifty fifty.
I myself wouldn't mind seeing them at f/2 or even 2.8 to save a little on the size, but I can see the logic in their having a consistent set of primes from now from 20 - 85 mm.
sderdiarian: The real plus is being able to use your smartphone's 5.5" screen (LG3) to compose pictures, what a joy compared to the 3" screens "cameras" are still hobbled with. People wonder why camera sales have fallen off the chart, it's assuredly in part due to their primary interface being so much less easily seen, certainly a perceived step-down to many smartphone users.
Sony deserves great credit for continually churning out innovative ideas. Now if only an mFT manufacturer ran with this one; size could be reduced (smaller mount, smaller battery) and the user would have access to a large line of much smaller primes and zooms.
Imagine the Panasonic 12-32mm zoom or 20mm prime combined with a 5.5" screen. I'd buy one in a heartbeat for $500, not to replace my camera, but to supplement it and just have a lot of fun.
Yep. And you get to hold onto your... phone? That sounds very steady. And your controls are... where? And the lenses how big? So... it's not like the combinations are pocketable. Who in their right mind would buy one of these ahead of any of the Sony A's or RX's, or the Fuji X's, or the m43s, or *gasp* a DSLR?
3systermuser: read DXO mark on this one, you will see the IQ is the same or extremely similar to that of the D800E.and considering the price difference between the D810 and the D800E, there is no point getting it if you do not need a touch better AF, a bit better LV,etc over the D800E.I think this is what D800E should have been, but it is now already dated even at this point, Nikon should focus its very limited R and D money onto FX mirrorless.for me , the Sony A7R wins over all this extremely old dated D-SLR.
A7r has inexplicable 11+7 bit compressed RAW, and ridiculous shutter slap.
Mirrorless fanboys should concern themselves with the pictures and not the specs.
beavertown: Dear Nikon,
The only two way to solve the 1 problem is:
A: Bring down the price like the V1
B: Use a bigger sensor.
BarnET: I disagree totally. So does Thom Hogan.
Yes, I know. My point was that it will still track autofocus with each frame. Still does 20 FPS with that tracking. 60 FPS without. For those of you wondering, the 1DX tracks at 12 FPS and the 4Ds at 11 FPS (yes, with far more points and options - I'm not saying the V3 is 'better'; I'm pointing out its strength.)
There are reasons the V cameras sell at all. I just gave what I thought was the most relevant one.
"Ditch the ridiculous FPS"?
20 FPS with full autofocus while using adapted FX Nikkor glass is the single reason this camera sells at all. There's nothing else remotely like it for sports and BIF, which explains why users put up with all its, ahem, quirks.
hrt: Will DPReview be posting a comparison report between D810 and Sigma DP2 Quattro ?
That would be an interesting comparison.
chaos215bar2: "Naturally though [the slight blurring due to the OLPF] also means that in terms of raw resolution, you're never quite seeing the potential of your camera's pixel count"
That isn't entirely accurate. The true resolution of a 36 MP Bayer sensor is 18 MP in green and 9 MP in red and blue. You could store the result in a standard 18 MP file without losing anything and still have 50% more pixel data than you need. A 36 MP sensor does not have the potential to produce an accurate, sharp 36 MP color image.
The point of the OLPF is to distribute each color of light over the corresponding pixels so there are no holes. That means you won't get super sharp, aliased lines, but you also won't end up with artifacts (moire) by trying to imagine details that the sensor can't actually resolve. Without the OLPF, you're just taking the 36 MP grayscale image, throwing away some colors at each pixel, and hoping you don't lose anything important.
It would appear that for cameras of sufficient resolution, lens sharpness (or rather, the lack thereof) serves as the OLPF, as the sensors can out-resolve the lenses.
samdim: Many new features like Split zoom, Face detection, Lower ISO simulation and Clarity PC slider - are purely software based and could be added to other Nikon cameras in an update.I'd like them very much on my D7100...
At least Nikon got their firmware to the point that the camera was a very good performer right from the start, unlike Fuji, who had to release updates to bring their camera up to par. You fan boys make me shake my head.
noirdesir: Higher frame rates, lower base ISO, better AF etc. are all welcome but the area were the D800 had a real deficiency is manual focus via life view due to its line-skipping sensor read out - any word on whether that has been improved?
Unconfirmed, but looks like they fixed it. If so, I don't know why they aren't shouting it from the rooftops.http://diglloyd.com/blog/2014/20140627_0844-NikonD810-LiveView.html
"Marcel J writes to say:
'Just tried the D810 in the Nikon center in Ginza, Tokyo. The Live view looks much better. See attached photos of the D800e and D810 screen I took with my phone (sorry, I was in a hurry and didn't think about taking a picture with my D800e).
In any case, none of the triple pixel nonsense, and much less noise in the Live View display. The screen seemed whiter and brighter as well.
I didn't check any other features, but the cleaner Live View is enough for an upgrade for me.'"
JKP: Weird they lied about the quality of their lenses knowing they would be caught sooner or later.
Nonetheless, I'm not a big fan of adding corrections to RAW files.
sunnycal: Same cRaw? No lossless comressed (or uncompressed) raw?
"RawDigger: detecting posterization in SONY cRAW/ARW2 files"
photogalleryonline: Does it allow manual control of the Iris (Apetrure) during Video shooting? How does the 12 fps work compared to the A77 which had some terrible blackout (image review) while shooting at speed thus impossible to track/pan anything at speed?
Perhaps the slide show effect is the product of leaving image review on in the finder when shooting in burst mode? It's easy to see how this could be forgotten, and obvious how this would be a problem.
Deliverator: It seems to me the SLT cameras should be better when it comes to vibrations from mirror slap. Does anyone have any insight to offer on this?
Yes, I realize there is no mirror slap in an SLT. My thinking this should improve sharpness when compared to DSLRs.
I too would like to see more testing on AF performance (speed, accuracy), though I do find the high ISO tests to be informative for comparison purposes.
It seems to me the SLT cameras should be better when it comes to vibrations from mirror slap. Does anyone have any insight to offer on this?
AV Janus: Wow that is some serious banding!I hope they can fix that in the next firmware...
From the article: " High- and low-resolution photos were then scanned into strips called framelets using something akin to an old fax machine reader."
Banding is baked in the cake.
BarnET: "Large 18.4-megapixel CMOS sensor"
Large compared to what?!.Lmao!!!!!
Large compared to the 1/2.3 and 1/1.7" sensored phones and point and shoots that 99% of the people out there use.
But then you knew that.
PixelMover: With all due respect to dpreview readers who genuinely had dust/oil/spot issues witht heir D600...Bear in mind the source. China utterly hates and despises Japan (My wife is Chinese..) and will do ANYTHING and EVRYTHING to discredit/blame/smudge.insult/demean Japan at any opportunity.
The D600 fiasco is just a god-given present to China.
Put it this way. I have spent 4 month is China now and most of the time, they eat Japanese food buy Japanese brands, use Japanese electronics. But every now and then, a government-induced Japan-hate is instilled, where people who ate Sushi yesterday throw bricks throug the sushi bar's windows tomorrow...
The dispute over the islands has heated up quite a bit. In general, with their relatively recent economic and military strength, China is starting to flex their muscle more and more in their 'backyard', as they are asserting their claims all over Asia in disputes with Japan, the Philippines, Taiwan, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand, et. al.
It's in the news, if you'd bother to look for it.
Fotoman53: Nikon has never acknowledged it as far as I know but the D7000 had the same problem first. I first noted those translucent spots on my photos shortly after I got it and have since had the sensor professionally cleaned about four times, $70 each time. I think it needs it again. Early on O approached a Nikon rep at a local camera show and she was not interested in hearing about this. My D7100 so far does not seem to have this problem .
My D7000 had 4 or 5 spots on the sensor within around 1000 shots. I didn't worry about it too much, as they were only showing up at ~f/16 or so, and I wasn't using small apertures at all at the time. But when I noticed my camera was backfocusing quite a bit (at first I thought it was just my technique), I sent it in to Nikon for repair under warranty. It came back clean and spot on in under two weeks. I can't complain about that at all.
Charrick: How this revolutionary camera can get an 80% to the D600's 87%, I have no idea. Somehow, I think that oil splashes show up on RAW files, too. Sure, maybe it was reviewed before that debacle, but then why not change the score? OK, let's instead compare the A7 to the D610. The D610 has more buttons and JPEG might be better. But the A7 is the smallest full-frame digital camera in the world, and is (along with the A7r) the only true full-frame digital "mirrorless" camera. Shouldn't that count for something? It's like if someone invents a hoverboard that only gets 1 kilometer or 1 mile per charge...so you give a much higher score to a regular skateboard. It doesn't make sense to me.
The oil on sensor problem was overblown.I think Leica would like to show you their full-frame mirrorless camera line. The line has a complete set of lenses, by the way.Canikon have refined their lenses, ergonomics and image processing for decades. You think Sony can catch up in a few years?