alxdava: Nikon shoot them selfs in the margin sales :))). Canon was smarter. The price is big, also the discounts in near future, not to mention accesories which can be shiped with. In the long term, prices will be almost the same, but the cream will on the Canon cake.
you are wrong. Canon will drop the price, but will be on par with Nikon. you thing that people who own Canon glass will swich for 200-200$ or Euro? at this time nobody has an idea how those camera works in real life. the hit or the fail will be in the 30 days after first sales. why? becouse you have return policy on your side and if you don't like the camera you can send it back.just wait and see.
Nikon shoot them selfs in the margin sales :))). Canon was smarter. The price is big, also the discounts in near future, not to mention accesories which can be shiped with. In the long term, prices will be almost the same, but the cream will on the Canon cake.
itsmeavi: I was really thinking of upgrading to full frame (from D80) and was waiting for D800 release and this price increase is final blow to that thought :)
... Frankly after reading previews and going through samples i wasn't really seeing any compelling reason to buy D800 as i don't go above ISO3200 and picture size of 8MP is sufficient as of now. I think with release of Nikon D800 and Canon 5DIII both companies have followed each others path instead of their own.
Well i will wait for Nikon D900 now and hope Nikon doesn't disappoint me then :) ... until then will buy Nikon 70-200VRII and learn more.
you're funny!!! :)))))))) you wanted to buy an almost 3000$E item, and for 200 more you stoped?!!!!how ridicolous!!!:)))))
Anastigmat: Anyone who expects good high ISO performance from a sensor that is half the size of a full frame model is a fool, and a fool and his money will soon part company. If high ISO performance is of paramount importance, look instead at full frame cameras like the Canon 5DMKIII and Nikon D4.
man, i think you are at least a fool. people don't need a Ferrari to drive on the highway. if is not the best that doesn't mean that is not enough for the majority MORON.
Sdaniella: D4 fares poorly for fine details as it hits ISO 1600 and beyond:
@ISO1600D4 vs PowerShot G1X vs Sony NEX-7 vs 645Dhttp://tinyurl.com/87eod5r
in exchange, as D3/D3s, before it, because of less details to worry that NR will smooth out (gets it mushy), it can afford to do very nice NR until way up in the higher ISO ranges
it would be expected for any system where coarse details left intact are more important than fine details intact; so the lo-res clean hi-ISO for minimal noise at the expense of such fine details is a well understood tradeoff
it all depends on your objective when capturing a subject
going up to higher ISO 6400, is where Nikon has fared much better for clean NR with least noise, albeit at even less fine details retained
at ISO 6400, the 645D sample wasn't available from DPR, so i replaced it with the D3s, which did well before
@ISO6400D4 vs PowerShot G1X vs Sony NEX-7 vs D3shttp://tinyurl.com/7mfkaea
higher Mp offers more details and more noise even if NR used
Canon watch DOG!
Mark2012: It just confirmed my decision to switch to Sony. The price is too high, lack of in body IS sucks, frame rate sucks ( i got used to Sony’s numbers), no swivel screen, overall not much for a LOT of cash. If Sony A99 can match it in terms of ISO performance, it'll be a no brainer. If not, d800 is a better option.
in a system, lenses are the value. for a true pro, changing systems is a very hard thing to do, becouse, in real terms, diferences in IQ between the cameras at the same level are small.big diferences between D300s and 7D?!!! nope. between D700 and 5DII?!!! nope. just in futures on the paper and in ergonomics. in real life not too much, under 3%. sooo, for 3-5% is good to sell and buy another set of lenses that you don't know how it works, ho won't give you money until you'll learn how to used?
Sdaniella: Seriously, i waited about 80 minutes just to see all the predictable goons come out (let's see how many?)
how much s..t can you eat for Canon?!!!! just asking...
Nudibranco: why is it that EU and UK retail is so much more?? VAT is here around 20% (included in the list pricing) and tax in the US is variable and not included in the prices released but the cost has a 30% differential. Where is the 10% difference from?? This is particularly true on all camera equipment. It actually used to be a lot more but it seems that the policy is always 1 to 1 on list prices between € and USD.
is international agreement that 1000$=1000euro. no matter what. thats why you won't see very much m4/3 in US. small margin for japonese companys.
look at the price of Mercedes there and see in EU or Asia.
eyefuse: So independent filmmakers and amateurs will still use their ~2000€ cameras for anything they do.. Nothing new here.. An expensive piece of equipment that other broadcast manufacturers have provided for years.. I don't see the point?
nope. 20K$=20k Euro
_Photographer_: I want to buy this camera but I noticed that the 12800 ISO looks very inferior compared to the Sony Nex-5 or the Fujifilm x100...
How much do you really use 12800?
What do you recommended to buy? budget: 899$
get the Oly. Sony is a koke as photographic tool, and Fuji is to expensive and limited.