Nothing new from Sony today?
Raist3d: I honestly cant see what Fuji bings to the table over the GR here. Handling and the jpeg engine. Handling would be a great advantage if it wasnt for the fact the Ricoh GR handles very well too.
In the meantime the Ricoh has a faster leaf shutter an built in auto ND filter so you can atill shoot wide open without rilling shutter of the fuji.
I guessthe Fuji has its charm but i feel they hould also have covered all bases as far as a Ricoh competitor goes.
@AbrasiveReducer I think there are a lot of people looking for a small camera who actually understand the quality difference between fixed focal lengths and zooms, but need a zoom anyway because it is more versatile. As far as I'm concerned, the new Panasonic DMC-ZS100 (which is also a $700 compact) makes more sense that the X70, although I know that the fixed X70 lens is optically much better.So I'm just wondering if the X30 will have a successor with a small zoom and a better sensor, which is somehow what I was expecting from a X** series camera.
owenleve: every single one of your test photos is garbage. why do you keep insisting on creating such incredibly poor test photos. take your time, do something creative, push the camera to it's limits. Show the sharpness, low light capabilities in real world shoots. Shoot a moving subject. ANYTHING.
Very aggressive comment @owenleve.These are not "test photos". They are just "real-world samples", and they are a good way to see what this camera can do in real-world conditions. The purpose is not to test the creativity of the photographer.
Very natural colors as usual, and very clean ISO 3200 images.Too bad I need a small zoom lens :-(
nicoboston: The potential issue with organic components is lifespan. Ho long these sensors will last?Whole Foods will love them, though.
@photomedium The lifespan of organic materials has been and is still an issue with OLED. Why would it be different for a sensor?
A manufacturer that makes things "that can be used forever" is doomed.
nicoboston: Oh, wow... I'm glad to see a non-Sony article!Sighhhh... Bad news though.Please... Were 'll addict to Sony game-changing news now! Please don't pollute DPSR with non-Sony bad news!
@domsmith As far as I'm concerned, I am perfectly happy with my non-Sony cameras (that I probably use at <20% of their potential). I do not need to get a new camera every year. Pictures taken 10 years ago were as good as what we see today. And I truly believe that Sony's marketing is more and more disturbing. Boring at best.
The potential issue with organic components is lifespan. Ho long these sensors will last?Whole Foods will love them, though.
Oh, wow... I'm glad to see a non-Sony article!Sighhhh... Bad news though.Please... Were 'll addict to Sony game-changing news now! Please don't pollute DPSR with non-Sony bad news!
Canon announcement:"Canon announces flagship..."Sony announcement:"Oh, wow... Sony announces..."Brain manipulation, more efficient than any Sony commercial!Congrats to Sony for this elegant use of the "wow" factor.
Shifter: The Panda is probably the dumbest most useless animal on the planet.
I would say koalas are even dumber.So dum that their brain is minimalistic:The koala has one of the smallest brains in proportion to body weight of any mammal, being 60% smaller than that of a typical diprotodont, weighing only 19.2 g (0.68 oz). The brain's surface is fairly smooth, typical for a "primitive" animal. It occupies only 61% of the cranial cavity and is pressed against the inside surface by cerebrospinal fluid.
I'm eager to discover the Leica Koala Edition.
That said, recent announcements from Leica, Fuji, Olympus and others are just pathetic. Technological hiatus for digital cameras? Can we expect something exciting before 2020 ?
p5freak: So, the filter transfers all the energy from the steel ball to the lens, instead of taking the hit, breaking the glass with the energy ? Good for the filter, bad for the lens. You might end up with an intact filter, and a broken lens.
And what about the energy dissipated as heat :-)))Seriously, should we consider that the main purpose of such a filter is to protect the front element against scratches and facilitate cleaning?As far as I'm concerned, I thing that filter makers should focus more on ghost busting... I've seen ghosts even with relatively expensive coated filters.
nicoboston: Nice article!
In 2001 I purchase a Powershot G2 after reading the DPR conclusion:
"And the whole point is the G2 is a camera that just works, it does exactly what its supposed to and it does it well, and consistently."
A few years later, I got a G10 for the same reasons.
They have been my 2 favorite compact cameras.
I like reading your tests and reviews, but I couldn't care less about scores, awards, rankings and brands. IMO, the perfect camera is the one that "does exactly what its supposed to and it does it well, and consistently". These are the cameras that give us a chance to capture moments of eternity.
My photo albums and web galleries do not contain exif data. They just contain memories and emotions.
@ trulandphoto I don't think there is an anti-Canon bias... Currently the competition is not what it was 10-15 years ago.The real bias is an enormous piece of BS called BRAND LOYALTY!
nicoboston: Sony, Canon, Panasonic and others can make compact cameras with a decent sensor and a decent zoom.Did Fuji give up?This X70 looks great but the fixed 28mm lens is not very versatile.Why don't they make something to compete with the Sony RX100s,which are among the most popular compacts on the market?
OK guys, I did not say that I would like a zoom on this APS-C sensor... For a "X70" I was expecting a 1" sensor with a small zoom. I think this X70 will be very good and IQ will be impressive, but IMO it would fit more in the X*** range. This is more a X100 than a X30. I still hope that Fuji will bring a X40 or 50 or 60 to enter the Sony/Canon/Panasonic 1" crowd. I like Fuji quality, IQ and ergonomics and I want to believe there is room for Fuji in the "small compact with zoom" crowd. The X30 is kind of anachronistic so I just hope that Fuji has not decided to end this family.
@BarnET : It is precisely because this market is "pretty crowded" that I believe that Fuji has a good opportunity to show that they are above the crowd.
@happypoppeye : do you suggest that a small zoom lens is not compatible with "photography"? The X10/20/30 have been good compact cameras. They do not have a successor. Sorry but I still don't understand why Fuji does not try to make a X30 style camera with a better sensor. It would be a perfectly acceptable alternative for those who know nothing about photography...
Sony, Canon, Panasonic and others can make compact cameras with a decent sensor and a decent zoom.Did Fuji give up?This X70 looks great but the fixed 28mm lens is not very versatile.Why don't they make something to compete with the Sony RX100s,which are among the most popular compacts on the market?
Catalin Stavaru: I actually think that the more interesting camera (outside this enthusiast forum) from the Canon 1" sensor offerings is the G9X. It has only 80% of the volume of the *original* Sony RX100, and 70% or less of the volume of the recent RX100 versions. There is no point in making a large, sophisticated camera with small sensor, unless reading these forums too much. A large camera is a waste without la large sensor.
@Catalin Stavaru "For me, the G9X finally a Canon compact camera that is interesting" That is what really matters in the end. I don't blame Canon for making a camera that is really small, light, and has a very nice interface. I just think that using this sensor seems like an overkill to me. I think that lens cannot project on the sensor all the light it deserves. On the other hand you're right: the camera is convenient and relatively cheap. And who knows, maybe DPR will show us that the lens is not so bad in the end.
electrophoto: Shame - this looked like a promising compact camera...
I wish fuji would step up and put a 1" (or larger) sensor in a X30-successor... keep the lens, keep the controls, keep the very good EVF, keep the ergonomics,... keep the MANUAL ZOOM... but add a larger sensor... Or make an X100X with a 28-70 f/2.8 attached on a APS-C Sensor... I would so buy that ;)
They cannot keep the same lens if they use a bigger sensor.X10/20/30 were OK because a good yet small lens brings a lot of light on their small sensor. An X30 with a 1" sensor would have a much bigger and expensive, or a much slower lens. No free lunch. To date, I think that Sony found the best compromise. But I abhor the Sony interface :-(I'm also waiting for Fujifilm's response but I do not expect a miracle.I think [really] compact camera have reached the summit. Now we have to wait for a major technological breakthrough or use bigger equipment.
@Catalin Stavaru That's what I was thinking initially. Then I tried the G9X. It is a plastic toy and the lens is pathetic.Good sensor, good touchscreen, nice interface (better than Sony). Everything else is bad. Illuminating a good sensor with such a bad and slow lens doesn't make sense.