ozturert: You write 10s of pages of review, you explain excellent functions and ergonomy, you explain how fast AF and operation is, how excellent and compact m4/3 lenses are, how 40MP function can be useful, how IBIS gives you new creativity options (such as going down all the way to 1sec, even less shutter speed) etc...
Then one cowboy comes and says "hey but A7 has full frame sensor"...
@brendon1000..Well actually you are wrong many professionals already are on the m43 bandwagon. Do they only have m43, well some might and some might not.In my case I switched years ago and m43 is my main system. I don't have a gear shop like some professionals which means I have to buy my gear opposed to use rentals not taken. But occasionally I need other gear than m43 due to specific tasks. but 35mm gear is no longer in the picture. Yeah, pre 40-150mm F2.8 I rented Nikon 35mm with lenses to do specific sports but that's covered by E-M1 and 40-150mm F2.8 now. The 300mm F4 might be the next station. In other niche area's I use 645D a lot.
Mateus1: Anybody knows its AF sensitivity? Is it poor 0EV or goes to -3EV or -4EV like Panasonic cams? Olympus hides this information, do not know why - maybe it's only 0EV?
somewhere I saw mentioned -2EV in a review, but if that's fact I don't know.
Jakub Kubica: "extensive customization options can be overwhelming" - this should be in "pros".
Agree fully, it's also for advanced users.Formally there was a complaint about SCP not being default, now there's another issue:"Default autofocus settings limit camera performance"Could be so, but is that a fair con in this segment, it also can be changed so the Con of limiting AF performance is gone.When you e.g. compare the cons of the A7R, they are more definate, hardware related, in that one can't change the Con.So what really remains are two lousy points in Con, I think Olympus has a first there!
Everlast66: I think review is fair.Many are arguing below that the sensor is good enough for almost anything, but the problem is that, for what people use cameras these days, even a mobile phone or a smaller 1" sensor will also be sufficient for nearly everything.
If someone does not need the higher IQ of APCS or FF sensors, they would just use their mobile phone, or go for a smaller sensor that can give them compactness or convenient zoom range.
@Everlast continued ...For me it comes down to the total package and there's nothing APS-C could give me that I don't already have in m43. I'd even skip 35mm for IQ and rent 645D's today if necessary for the work I do. E-M1 is plenty fast for sports with the 40-150mm F2.8. I get the pictures I want first time round, not even need CAF, SAF is totally sufficient even with F1, but CAF is no slough on the E-M1. The Pro DSLR's from Nikon and Canon are still king but not by a large margin.
@Everlast, I mean that the E-M5 generation sensor outperforms the 7DII and other more current Canon DSLR's. You made a blanket statement of the size.And yeah there might be situations where a particular 1" sensor outperforms m43 or even APS-C, but that's beyond the point of your remark and DPR's. The difference between Fuji APS-C and rthe E-M5 or E-M1 sensor is so small it's indistinguishable. Where the APS-C would have a slight advantage is nullified by the lens and response of the camera. OOC Color is a matter of taste so I wouldn't consider that in the package for selecting a format. If you trace my posts you'll see I had plenty of experience with Fuji!!! and also like their colors OOC.
APS-C doesn't necessarily have higher IQ than E-M5(II)
Lynda Botez: I have the first camera; after the major firmware update, I love this camera to bits. Can't wait for the M3. It's got to be a lot better, faster, etc. This size and weight make a great little camera, and the photos are amazing... If you haven't used one I wouldn't make up my mind against it until you try it. The small lenses are awesome too!
Well you are right, must have been very late night. I sound like a fanboy in my post.Probably I got anoyed by another post and took it out on Lynda. No offense. Sometimes we do unexplainable things.
Zvonimir Tosic: First of all, if I were a representative of company that always gets worst of attention from DPR, starting from lack of reviews onto everything else, I would not give them any bit of information about anything. Rule goes, know your enemy first.
Also, I would love DPR spare us mirrorless tirade when conversing with a representative of the company that has practically invented an SLR!
Instead, why DPR do not bother mirrorless-solution-only companies, bugging them with questions like: when will they try out SLR designs and change their mounts to ones with larger distance, in order to simplify their lens designs, introduce native distortion-free images and not images no one can swallow without software manipulation, insist on 100% tele-centricity, considerably preserve battery life with introduction of a bright OVF?
@Zvonimir Tosic what a load of crap, Pentax didn't invent the SLR and the company that made the SLR small was Olympus, so there you go nothing of anything you stated is true for Pentax. Even your gobble about telecentricity is not Pentax' thing but introduced by Olympus FT system instead. And imo the OVF should go the way of the Dodo, no merit in it anymore. OVF would only make sense in fully mechanic and battery free designs. High resolution EVF's is the future.
Hahaha ROTFLMAO.You definately haven't handled any of the competition. Canon is no match for any of the other manufacturers other than the fact it can use EF lenses, but handicapped though.
straylightrun: It's interesting to see the 'High resolution mode' was the gimmick that Olympus were forced to put in since the Sony A7ii stole the last thing Olympus had going for it: IBIS.
@Lassoni,You need world class IBIS though. Which the Sony A7II lacks. The Sony does have a 5-axis stabilizer, but it's less effective than the E-M1's. So if the E-MII is better than E-M1 than it's better than the Sony too.
alouette: "camera is now capable of an impressive maximum 9 fps in the C-AF sequential shooting mode when using a Four Thirds® or Micro Four Thirds® lens, improving the ability to capture moving subjects"
Common, is Olympus kidding? The Framerate increases even when using an Four Thirds Lens?
I really can't imagine that a 50-200 and even a 300/2.8 will be able to handle such a high frame rate. I own both and so far even 6.5 fps are way to fast for such lenses.
However maybe it's only my fault, not beeing able to handle those great lenses.
It would be nice if true.The new 40-150mm F2.8 should be used with C-af+tracking to get the best results, that one already is capable of sports today icw E-M1!
PerL: Selfies with "Slimming mode"...talk about a camera for the narcissistic age.
Another snobbish remark.I'd stick with a D1x +400mm if I were you to prevent your thingy from shrinking, and your manhood getting dented.It's a starter cam for pete's sake and not bad either. One isn't forced to make selfies with it as if this is the only thing it is capable of.
ultimitsu: "Mirrorless to outsell DSLRs 'in three years'"
I am sure someone somewhere said this exact same thing back in 2008.
@Plastek, and here's where you are wrong, many mirrorless camera's already surpassed many DSLR models.The last bastion is the pro DSLR 1Dx / D4 class of camera's, but this hurdle isn't far off for mirrorless either. The last Olympus telelens is maybe the fastest focussing lens I've seen in many decades due to the dual motors, Now we need the next step in predictive focus and you can say bye bye to DSLR's!!!I'm not talking sensor format.
Miki Nemeth: Since I've seen the Sony X200 professional video camera where Fujifilm (not Zeiss nor Sony) made a brilliant lens for Sony, I am fully convinced that Fujifilm should make its lenses primarily with m43 and E-mount lenses. Fujifilm's X-mount camera line is a waste of effort. Fuji should do focus onto lenses where it is really great. Fuji X-line is just a nice try vs the giants like Panasonic, Sony, Canon. Both E-mount and m43 are open standards (unlike Canon); how great it would be if I could buy this lens on my Sony cameras.
@Raist3d I very much doubt Fuji is selling more than Olympus
@Miki, Fuji is already a member of the (m)43 group, so they could step in anytime they want.
tabloid: Tools of the Trade.
A photographer went to a socialite party in New York.As he entered the front door, the host said "I love your pictures….they're wonderful, you must have a fantastic camera".He said nothing until dinner was finished, then he said "That was a wonderful dinner, you must have a terrific stove".
The moral of the story is obvious.So to all the people who are going to 'knock' Dp and every camera that they test….remember, good photography is down to you, and not the camera.
@KarlwunschI'm not a native english speaker and with my last sentence I meant to say that it could be you happened to have certain gear available or not available to you at a specific situation, so not a planned gig however because than you purposely bring your gear!
@ karlwunsch.No you are wrong, the vast majority of photography professionals DON'T use the best kit possible!Actually they don't upgrade as often as amateur gearheads!Upgrading costs money and is not commercially viable because most of the time there's just little to gain IQ wise. It could change workflow etc. etc.Only professionals who get "sponsored" might have the latest and greatest more often.If I had to consider to always have the best IQ I'd have new gear at least every half year.Probably you mean by best, 35mm camera's, but the ultimate best IQ isn't 35mm.Then again the best IQ could be with just a smartphone or 1" camera. It just depends on the situation.
G1Houston: Does it still show banding when the Panasonic 20/1.7 is used at high ISO? Could someone please check to see if they have finally go this issue under control?
Why is this Olympus' problem? has panasonic incorporated CA correction for Olympus lenses?They are competitors within the same format. I don't think Olympus is keen on you buying a Panasonic 20mm, they'd rather have you buy an Olympus 25mm F1.8.I agree it would be nice if they fixed it, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Sdaniella: Powershot G-series dcams initially had larger pixels (larger than 3um), albeit with lower res fewer pixels, and over time, progressively got smaller pixels, sub-3um pixels, and then finally, sub-2um pixels, as the pursuit of more mp for higher res was achieved, and incremental improvements for IQ in lo-light at hi-ISOs
now, that the mp 'war' has cooled off for dcams, and interest has waned as smartphones have included its mp war (encroaching on smaller sensor dcam territory)
offering larger sensor in small dcam bodies (and smartphones, too) is much welcome, and long overdue:
it's nice to see Powershot G-series also returning to larger pixels, larger than 3um pixels for G1X-series, and larger than 2um pixels for G-series (G7X, even though this is more an S-series form factor model, like the S120)
sub-2um pixel dcams can remain reserved for super-zooms, sub-3um for medium zooms, which could mean many more short-zoom or prime lens models with sub-4um pixel sensors for fixed lens dcams
@Sdaniella This camera is major flawed. It has the same sensor as the RX100 yet Canon manages to fully destroy it's capabilities in video AND stills.The camera is veeeery slow in handling and focussing though has a better reach and remain brighter at most FL than the RX but with a soft result, it has no evf or possibility to add an external one.I was in the marked for a small compact but decided on GM1 (changing lenses was my deciding factor) but RX100III and G7X were competitors the G7X looses out bigtime imo to the RX100III.The guys at "thecamerastore" seem to agree on the same points.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E6Mxxe_kG4
Marc J: I am horribly appalled by the marketing of this thing, and by the accompanying change in the marketing of the whole PEN line. I was fairly proud of my E-PL5, but with the current marketing, I should feel embarrassed to ever pull it out. What happened to photography? Anyone want to tell me that those who like to match their cameras with their purses have any clue of, say, sensor size? Or of a difference between lenses? And that they actually want to know about it?
Only wannabees would be embarrased at what they use.Camera's are tools and there's almost always a flavour for everybody. I think you'd better buy a Canon or Nikon and join the lemmings :-).
My personal opinion is that forum members lay much to much emphasis on the dislike of how an LCD folds (selfy mode) there's much more to this camera. And yes it helps if more people buy it if that's obtained by marketing at the youngsters, more power to Olympus.
So get over you inferiority complex and look at the total package!