Marvol: It's interesting to me how all the naysayers - except the ones who want RAW - are divided over what is ACTUALLY wrong with these things.
To some they are too large, to some too expensive - but others want to add flash, EVF, zoom rings, whatnot; larger, more expensive.
The list of things that Sony *should really* have done is seemingly endless. Internal memory, connection with Sony smartphones, fixed wide angle lens, collapsible zoom, FF sensor, E-mount instead, more buttons... indicating to me that Sony (apart from leaving RAW off the QX-100) actually got it fairly right, on average.
Well I think Sony has got it right. (and I'm not a Sony fan)Think of the possibilities of selling larger batteries with back for the phones. The clamps for different phones and I could go on. RAW could be added later incl other software related tidbits. This is but the first iteration so ....Yeah, I can see it's potential.
gerard boulanger: Why they don't use the "flash" on the phone as an AF assist lamp?
Very good idea.In general this solution has potential. It's just the plain stupid who don't see the market.But then again the photography world is full of dinosaurs clinging to their 35mmFF camera's as if they are the god of photography. It makes me laugh every time again.Like someone above also said, this is innovation and thinking outside of the box. I love that.
spidermoon: "This means there's no space for an aperture ring" ? Pentax-M 40mm f/2.8 or Chinon 45mm f2.8 are pancake lenses and have an aperture ring. But nowday, with all those drive-by-wire lenses, maybe you can't put mechanical aperture ring.
Yeah they might have an aperture ring but they don't have AF motors in them!
yabokkie: I use EF40/2.8 as "lens cap" that almost as good as some f/2.8 zooms. if this lens delivers as good resolution it could be a good lens cap for XF cameras.
since f/2.8 on APS-C is about 1.3 stops darker than f/2.8 on 35mm full-frame, the price should also be about 1.3 stops lower, or at least at half price of EF40/2.8.
On which lens can you mount it then?Or do you mean BODY CAP!
don_van_vliet: I'm a dedicated M43 user but this lens, at this price, impresses. Similar NEX and M43 offerings are a lot more expensive. I just hope the IQ doesn't reflect the price!
@abortabort, you must be using a very old Pen if you think EOS-M is faster and better locking, since all modern Pen's smoke the EOS M in the area of AF. I mean E-PL3, E-PM1, E-P3, E-PM2, E-PL5, E-P5 and the OM-D, then I haven't gotten aroud to the Panasonic offerings yet.
iShootWideOpen: Amazing lens for amazing price. I have the EOS M with both lenses. The 22mm F/2 smokes the Fuji 23mm on the X100 and easily beats the Zeiss 24 1.8 for the NEX. Also the difference between the Canon EFM 18-55 and the mid range zooms from Sony is night and day.I'm pretty sure, based on current EFM optics, the 11-22 will be stellar!Suddenly the EOS M with the enhanced AF and the addition of what should be a stellar ultra wide is looking like an amazing bargain.
Then you probably never owned Olympus lenses for m(43). I'd wager the 11-22 will not best the Olympus 9-18 or the Panasonic 7-14. Even the improved AF can't hold a candle to Oly and Pany.Also I don't see the 22 smoking the 24 Zeiss on NEX. Guess you haven't woken up yet.
white shadow: It is unlikely DPR would be able to give us folks a review until probably the end of July 2013. The production units won't hit the streets until early July. I have tried the pre- production unit and found it to be very attractive. It is very well made with a lots of useful features, weighty and fit snugly in my hands. This is probably the best micro 4/3 camera so far.
However, don't expect this unit to be cheap. The body alone would cost about USD1,100.00. With the 17mm f/1.8 lens it would cost about USD1,500.00. So there you are. I wish the body to be cheaper too, maybe around USD750.00 but it won't be. That said, this is a very capable premium model, what one would need to pay for the Nikon 7100 body. It maybe worth it. Having tried it, it is definitely an excellent camera to have while travelling or going backpacking.
Hope DPR can speed up a review on this model. Cameralab.com has done a more detailed preview on it. Unfortunately, nowadays there are not many good websites.
E-P5 in full supply in the Netherlands
arndsan: Looks like the latest Leica RSo when will the Leica logo will go up there?
Quite right Leica R design.
@ Roland K.That was the whole idea. The photo was made using the three pictures at the bottom.
ArcaSwiss: Canon is going nowhere innovation wise. Wonder if its a pause or a new modus operandi
Uhh no, Canon and Nikon are market leaders due to all the wannabee's that wander around thinking they need a Canon/Nikon too look professional/important.Because all the Pro's have them (they forget that many PJ's get them issued for free).
jezsik: Very nice!
Well, the girl or the bling ;-)
Paul Storm: this case needs to be appealed or this may just well be the death knell for the future of art photography.
Correct, but many "art" photographers don't see it that way.And especially hobbiest who drewl over the idea of potentially getting a boat load of money for prints of the same item. For them it means you don't have to work too much if you made a few great pieces.
E J S: I know an art collector who is passionate about photography, yet he refuses to collect photographs. This is exactly why. Some comments here have suggested Eggleston is hurting his credibility for selling future limited editions, but what he is hurting is the credibility of ALL photographic artists to do so.
Yes, Eggleston is an ar$e.I think Sobel has a very good point.Why not reproduce paintings on a different media and sell it of as original ;-).
Sdaniella: now it's smaller than a PowerShot 'superzoom' SX50 HS!!! [w/o lens]and very close to PowerShot G1X [w/o lens]
i had predicted this mini-EOS dSLR would be close to the PowerShot SX50HS
but one now can have faster lenses [EF or EF-S] and wider apertures and an APS-C sensor (hopefully as good as the PowerShot G1X sensor, if not better; i suspect 'same' as G1X; if so, better than either 650D/600D/EOS M and 7D)
and hopefully better AF than the PowerShot G1x or EOS M...
has a bigger sized grip like the PowerShot SX50 HS for smaller hands
a 'mini-7D' (not mini-60D; because it lacks VASS (vari-angle swivel screen from PowerShot G series))
Well it lacks more than vari angle. It's just a crippled entry level DSLR. Not even remote flash capable. Very annoying Accu and SD card in the bottom.
delastro: The message is that you are a sport photographer if you have a lot of money and buy the latest equipment. This is right but it is only one part in a collection of parallel worlds.
I made sport photography with a canon 100-400 and an EOS 40D and I think you will not see the difference.
If you want to earn money today with sport photography it may be necessary to have the newest bodies and the right exif text in the shots.
If you make sport-stockphotography . I think - it is enough to use a camera like the Pana FZ200 and the worklflow after the shot.
And if you leave the sport field and the show room you need other cameras for landscape, free animals or streetphotography.
And for food photography in a hotel (not in a show room) it is often better to use a small digicam - this is my experience.
Hugo808 is absolutely right, "extreme" or fast sports like photo's here are not possible with consumer gear, but this kind of photography is also one of many photographic area's, most however CAN be done with consumer gear.
blemont denis: For the price Canon 24x70 you can get a Olympus omD his grip with pana 20mm and 45mm Olympus!Canon really exaggerating too much on the price of new optics, it discourages noprofessional ...
You are comparing apples and pears, but yeah, there's a point.@blemont denis, a 1/2,3 P&S sensor is tiny, the 35mm is only 4 times larger, so tiny is an exxaggeration! The 35mmFF is tiny compared to FULL FORMAT!It's all in they eyes of the beholder.
oluv: what about the OIS-problem with the pz14-42 and blurry images at 42mm that was even mentioned here at dpreview.
there was never any statement nor fix for this from panasonic. does anyone know more about it?
Maybe it's not possible to fully fix, to solve it the sensors need to be in the inner element and they are not.The wobble of the inner element adds extra shakiness, the sensors are on a lensunit further back that doesn't have connection with the telescopic inner unit. The whole prolem lies in the lens' construction.I think the same is true for the 1st iteration of Olympus' 14-42mm kit lens.
I'm sorry but the E-PM2 does have an accessory port AND a flash socket, you could have mentioned that.
smatty: The Sony RX1 scores 79% in this review and is therefore is on par with the X-Pro 1's score of 79%
And while the comparison in this review is currently against the Fuji X100 with its 2 years old conventional sensor, the X100s with the version 2 of the X-Pro1 X-Trans sensor should surpass the RX1 at a fraction of the cost.
I am looking forward to this head to head comparison - and while I love FF sensor cameras for the great DOF control, in almost all other aspects of IQ the APS-C sensor have caught up.
Great times for serious compact cameras :)
@_Frederico_ I disagree about your remark that "A smaller format can't be an alternative to a greater one". It sure as h#ll can.I sell those prints of my work of the smaller and the bigger formats ... they are not far apart.You must be an specific art photographer to be so picky. Quality is quality and no client is ever getting a microscope to look if the picture has enough resolution etc. etc.A mirrorless system camera APS-C/m43 has more versatility than this fixed lens emo cam.
JustinL01: Has anyone actually picked up and used the camera before slating it! The shortcomings are nothing compared to the quality that you can achieve. There is no point comparing it to the current nex range, Fuji or Olympus ranges as they can't touch either the sensor or lens.
This is not a cheap camera, it has a best in class FF sensor and a stunning CZ lens that has been designed to work together. The engineering is supreme and the build quality excellent. Just go and have a look what the professional photographers that are using it are saying, look at the results they speak for themselves. Read the interviews with Sony to understand why there is no viewfinder and how the camera was put together it might open some eyes. I'll let the naysayers enjoy slating the camera where I will be out enjoying taking shots with mine.
That's just a croc o sh..!It is an "emotioanal" cam for us oldies, since it has physical controls like dedicated aperture ring etc.It definately has a little better IQ over the GH and OMD cameras and APS-C cameras, but that's about it.You can't exchange lenses on it, or even put an EVF on it, it has no tilting LCD and isn't weather sealed. This is a camera for "Leica alike" public. It's AF is slow compared to the m43 cameras. Al items where the original E-P1 was dissed over.OK it has super IQ but at the end of the day I sell print and it just isn't versatile enough to use solely on a shoot and the difference in print is not as big as the figures might want to suggest.