Jon Ingram: The reviewer is dead-wrong regarding "philosophical similarities" between the Df and the x-t1. First, the Df system is huge compared to the Fuji system. Second, Nikon forced a retro concept into their digital camera system. Fuji, on the other hand, has spent years developing their system with manual controls from the ground up, with enthusiast photographers in mind. Sure, at first glance, they are both are retro-looking expensive cameras, but that is where the similarities end. Philosophically, Nikon was targeting a fad; they were aiming for people who were willing to pay a premium simply for the look and feel of the camera. Fuji, on the other hand, are targeting enthusiast photographers, who value function just as much (or more) than the looks of the camera.
@KonstantinosK. Hooray for you.I'm in photography since 1976 and have seen the change from MF to AF and the change from all manual to program modes en using buttons iso all dials. Yes it was and is progress to be able to adjust settings with the camera in your face.With the X-T1 you get a camera with two locking dials ... WTF were they thinking.. back to the seventies or what.Retro looks ok, but retro functionallity? So you can see part of the settings when the camera is off, but does it make it that more ergonomic, I'd say, hell no.
Dennis: "uto ISO in manual mode, so you can specify the shutter speed and aperture you need, and let the camera set the ISO to match. But then the X-T1 ignores the exposure compensation dial,"
Argghhhh ! How hard is this to figure out ? 2+ years ago, I chose the Nikon D7000 over the Canon 7D for this reason. This is trivial stuff ! Nothing that isn't already being don in other exposure modes.
From what planet do you come. Pentax was the first to implement this and Olympus Pana e.a. had it for years.
HetFotoAtelier: I like my Nikon Df ! and my Fuji X-pro1 with OVF 100% more better viewfinder! not this camera with EVF!
Well today an EVF is much better than an OVF. If you shoot in dark environments an OVF is a no go for composition. And as a bonus an EVF can display much more usefull information than an OVF and the X-PRO1 is one of the worst OVF's IMO.
mgblack74: I'm looking for the word "silly" in this review. It was used fairly early in the the description of the Nikon Df and it never had a chance in the eyes of DPR reviewers after that. I guess because everyone is horny over Fuji these days, design elements are looked at through rose coloured glasses. C 'mon DPR... show the world you're fair and consistent and tell us the Fuji XT-1 is a silly design. An extra button step to engage selectable AF points should warrant that at least, no? Or the low mileage batteries, no? Or the single card slot, no? Hmmm.
Nikon Df is silly just as is this Fuji X-T1. C'mon, WTF, dials for EV shutterspeed and ISO that are hard to turn(oh yeah and to turn 2 of the dials you need to press a button in the middle), you need to take away your eye from the VF, again WTF, it's 2014 not 1971!No touchscreen LCD, what were they thinking. It looks like a hybrid Tablet where some controls are split between touchpad, touchscreen and keyboard. Ergonomic hell !
jazzybatra: Hello, I have an OMD EM5 and 75mm 1.8 lens. Most of my shots aure either out of focus or slow to focus small kids. Is this fast in OMD EM1? Is there a firmware or setting I should look at to make the focussing faster and accurate?
a 75 is like a 150 on 35mmFF totally the wrong lens for children up close. A 45mm is a much better choice here as it is 90mm equiv. but imo a 25mm (equiv to the nifty fifty) is the best choice.The DOF of the 75 is so narrow it's like 8 cm on a three meter distance a challenge for any camera, a 45 the DOF is 25 cm.I guess you're a beginner that bought into an advanced system.Learn to use it first before spending too much money on lenses that are not suitable for the job!
Marvol: It's interesting to me how all the naysayers - except the ones who want RAW - are divided over what is ACTUALLY wrong with these things.
To some they are too large, to some too expensive - but others want to add flash, EVF, zoom rings, whatnot; larger, more expensive.
The list of things that Sony *should really* have done is seemingly endless. Internal memory, connection with Sony smartphones, fixed wide angle lens, collapsible zoom, FF sensor, E-mount instead, more buttons... indicating to me that Sony (apart from leaving RAW off the QX-100) actually got it fairly right, on average.
Well I think Sony has got it right. (and I'm not a Sony fan)Think of the possibilities of selling larger batteries with back for the phones. The clamps for different phones and I could go on. RAW could be added later incl other software related tidbits. This is but the first iteration so ....Yeah, I can see it's potential.
gerard boulanger: Why they don't use the "flash" on the phone as an AF assist lamp?
Very good idea.In general this solution has potential. It's just the plain stupid who don't see the market.But then again the photography world is full of dinosaurs clinging to their 35mmFF camera's as if they are the god of photography. It makes me laugh every time again.Like someone above also said, this is innovation and thinking outside of the box. I love that.
spidermoon: "This means there's no space for an aperture ring" ? Pentax-M 40mm f/2.8 or Chinon 45mm f2.8 are pancake lenses and have an aperture ring. But nowday, with all those drive-by-wire lenses, maybe you can't put mechanical aperture ring.
Yeah they might have an aperture ring but they don't have AF motors in them!
yabokkie: I use EF40/2.8 as "lens cap" that almost as good as some f/2.8 zooms. if this lens delivers as good resolution it could be a good lens cap for XF cameras.
since f/2.8 on APS-C is about 1.3 stops darker than f/2.8 on 35mm full-frame, the price should also be about 1.3 stops lower, or at least at half price of EF40/2.8.
On which lens can you mount it then?Or do you mean BODY CAP!
don_van_vliet: I'm a dedicated M43 user but this lens, at this price, impresses. Similar NEX and M43 offerings are a lot more expensive. I just hope the IQ doesn't reflect the price!
@abortabort, you must be using a very old Pen if you think EOS-M is faster and better locking, since all modern Pen's smoke the EOS M in the area of AF. I mean E-PL3, E-PM1, E-P3, E-PM2, E-PL5, E-P5 and the OM-D, then I haven't gotten aroud to the Panasonic offerings yet.
iShootWideOpen: Amazing lens for amazing price. I have the EOS M with both lenses. The 22mm F/2 smokes the Fuji 23mm on the X100 and easily beats the Zeiss 24 1.8 for the NEX. Also the difference between the Canon EFM 18-55 and the mid range zooms from Sony is night and day.I'm pretty sure, based on current EFM optics, the 11-22 will be stellar!Suddenly the EOS M with the enhanced AF and the addition of what should be a stellar ultra wide is looking like an amazing bargain.
Then you probably never owned Olympus lenses for m(43). I'd wager the 11-22 will not best the Olympus 9-18 or the Panasonic 7-14. Even the improved AF can't hold a candle to Oly and Pany.Also I don't see the 22 smoking the 24 Zeiss on NEX. Guess you haven't woken up yet.
white shadow: It is unlikely DPR would be able to give us folks a review until probably the end of July 2013. The production units won't hit the streets until early July. I have tried the pre- production unit and found it to be very attractive. It is very well made with a lots of useful features, weighty and fit snugly in my hands. This is probably the best micro 4/3 camera so far.
However, don't expect this unit to be cheap. The body alone would cost about USD1,100.00. With the 17mm f/1.8 lens it would cost about USD1,500.00. So there you are. I wish the body to be cheaper too, maybe around USD750.00 but it won't be. That said, this is a very capable premium model, what one would need to pay for the Nikon 7100 body. It maybe worth it. Having tried it, it is definitely an excellent camera to have while travelling or going backpacking.
Hope DPR can speed up a review on this model. Cameralab.com has done a more detailed preview on it. Unfortunately, nowadays there are not many good websites.
E-P5 in full supply in the Netherlands
arndsan: Looks like the latest Leica RSo when will the Leica logo will go up there?
Quite right Leica R design.
@ Roland K.That was the whole idea. The photo was made using the three pictures at the bottom.
ArcaSwiss: Canon is going nowhere innovation wise. Wonder if its a pause or a new modus operandi
Uhh no, Canon and Nikon are market leaders due to all the wannabee's that wander around thinking they need a Canon/Nikon too look professional/important.Because all the Pro's have them (they forget that many PJ's get them issued for free).
jezsik: Very nice!
Well, the girl or the bling ;-)
Paul Storm: this case needs to be appealed or this may just well be the death knell for the future of art photography.
Correct, but many "art" photographers don't see it that way.And especially hobbiest who drewl over the idea of potentially getting a boat load of money for prints of the same item. For them it means you don't have to work too much if you made a few great pieces.
E J S: I know an art collector who is passionate about photography, yet he refuses to collect photographs. This is exactly why. Some comments here have suggested Eggleston is hurting his credibility for selling future limited editions, but what he is hurting is the credibility of ALL photographic artists to do so.
Yes, Eggleston is an ar$e.I think Sobel has a very good point.Why not reproduce paintings on a different media and sell it of as original ;-).
Sdaniella: now it's smaller than a PowerShot 'superzoom' SX50 HS!!! [w/o lens]and very close to PowerShot G1X [w/o lens]
i had predicted this mini-EOS dSLR would be close to the PowerShot SX50HS
but one now can have faster lenses [EF or EF-S] and wider apertures and an APS-C sensor (hopefully as good as the PowerShot G1X sensor, if not better; i suspect 'same' as G1X; if so, better than either 650D/600D/EOS M and 7D)
and hopefully better AF than the PowerShot G1x or EOS M...
has a bigger sized grip like the PowerShot SX50 HS for smaller hands
a 'mini-7D' (not mini-60D; because it lacks VASS (vari-angle swivel screen from PowerShot G series))
Well it lacks more than vari angle. It's just a crippled entry level DSLR. Not even remote flash capable. Very annoying Accu and SD card in the bottom.
delastro: The message is that you are a sport photographer if you have a lot of money and buy the latest equipment. This is right but it is only one part in a collection of parallel worlds.
I made sport photography with a canon 100-400 and an EOS 40D and I think you will not see the difference.
If you want to earn money today with sport photography it may be necessary to have the newest bodies and the right exif text in the shots.
If you make sport-stockphotography . I think - it is enough to use a camera like the Pana FZ200 and the worklflow after the shot.
And if you leave the sport field and the show room you need other cameras for landscape, free animals or streetphotography.
And for food photography in a hotel (not in a show room) it is often better to use a small digicam - this is my experience.
Hugo808 is absolutely right, "extreme" or fast sports like photo's here are not possible with consumer gear, but this kind of photography is also one of many photographic area's, most however CAN be done with consumer gear.