Henry M. Hertz: the question is... does nikons claim hold up that ISO 1600 on this camera looks like ISO 800 on the D4.
i have not seen sample images yet.and is it JPG or RAW they speak about?
im not really interested in a better JPG noise reduction.i shoot only RAW.
and when it is so good.. why only a nativ ISO of 25600?
the question is... does nikons claim hold up that ISO 1600 on this camera looks like ISO 800 on the D4.
Just a Photographer: The s stands for Software update?
Come on Nikon what kind of update is this really?
ok.. let me add it depend on how good the new sensor is.maybe the new sensor is really exciting.
we will see.
well yes.... but it´s still not an exciting update if you ask me.
same as the canon 700D is not an exciting update over the 650D.
compared with my 1D X i say it´s even a blah update.
i expected nikon to beat my "old" 1D X with a new flagship camera.now i expect canon to just make a small 1D X MK2 update too.
that´s not driving innovation.... :(
Henry M. Hertz: i say that´s a disappointment.
this camera does not not beat the "old" 1D X.or do you really think ISO 400k is usable for anything than 100 pixel facebook images? LOL
but it´s good to see that nikon now has gigabit ethernet.studio shooter will love it.
overall sure a nice camera but nothing impressing on this update.it´s like a new rebel from canon. marginal improvements......
ps: the smallish viewfinder (compared to the 1DX) is something i would hate.VF can´t be big enough.
did you ever shoot at ISO 102.400 ... can i see images?
i say 409.600 is useless for 98% of the customers. because they will not use it.
and we have to see how much (if) better ISO 102.400 is.
DWM: "While large, the D4s' viewfinder still falls short of Canon flagship EOS 1D X as well as the less expensive 5D Mark III."
How about "The size of the viewfinder is quite large, and in use is essentially indistinguishable from the high end Canons." (Which is clearly the case).
The Canon-centric comparisons get tiresome after a while.
fact is a fact..... even when aps-c viewfinder are fine for YOU.
WACONimages: Probably a perfect photograph machine! Will deliver stunning images, no doubt about that. In my opinion however these kind of cameras are a dying breed in the long term.
and your opinion is based on what?the believe that pros will shoot with an iphone in the future? :)
or that we all switch to medium format?they have to become a lot faster to be usefull for sports photographer. ;)
Henry M. Hertz: it´s good to see that, 3 years after canon, nikon user get gigabit lan too.
why USB3 is no standard in such expensive cameras still puzzles me.
but the 1D X was announced 2011. prototypes where available much earlier. ;)i bought mine in july 2012.
but let´s not fight over ~1 year.
fact is that 100mbit was a joke and that USB2 is still the standard is annoying.
GodSpeaks: Too bad Ken Rockwell was wrong about it being 24MP.
ROTFL....KR know s*it.
as he writes on his website: he likes to make things up.he is the rodney dangerfield of photography. annoying and clueless.
it´s good to see that, 3 years after canon, nikon user get gigabit lan too.
s = small update
tmurph: I'm off to the photography show this weekend, I've been to others over the years and always start to drool over what's on show, but what blows my mind every time is the quality of the photographs on show. I don't stand looking and thinking what gear did the photographer use; Although Some info on the lens is always helpful but not essential, to me anyway. I've said it before but the camera is a box, a clever box, but just a box, the lens is the important thing so forget the gear freaks who will discuss to the minuscule degree the pros and cons of this button or that button and the tonnage of the body compared to say.....A feather...just go to a gallery or a photography show and look at the quality of the photographs it's the end Result that counts.Me, I'm going to look at some paper, inks and lovely lenses and the photos of course. Keep reading the gear freaks who want to put glass eye's to sleep and give an aspirin a headache or....go out and use the camera you've got and enjoy the end result.
maybe if you shoot copulating bigfoots national geographic will print an ISO 400K image.... but otherwise.
it´s nice for journalism where quality is not a main concern (reports from war zones etc)... but if i would carry a big D4s then?
the new Nikon D4s is unable to beat the 1DX.
shows what a great camera canon has produced years ago.
igorek7: It's nice to see some progress with the Nikon's professional "action" camera, and a brave decision to not increase the pixel count of the sensor.
Perhaps, video capabilities is the major upgrade. Video bit rates up to 1080@60p is a good addition, but limiting video stream to 42Mbps (10 min limit), and 24Mbps (20 min limit) is not. The D4s can now adjust audio volume as it records, which is good. Unlike existing Nikons, the D4s can now simultaneously output uncompressed video over HDMI and record to internal memory cards --great.
However, I'm asking myself, with all those D4s video improvements, why not to add a 4K video, like in Panasonic GH4? Why not to add a silent shutter, an electronic one or a rolling shutter? Many of Nikon D3/D4 are used in external-noise-sensitive environments, such as theater/public performances, etc.
a rolling shutter?do you even know what your talking about or you just writing buzzwords?
i say that´s a disappointment.
1DX is still better.....
dpreview, in the text LAN is mentioned but in the specs it´s missing.
i thought at least 12 fps.
you know what improves these days?
it´s mostly ISO performance i would say.
and companys add gimmicks or art filters.
now everyone in my family has a camera (P&S or smartphone).with family i mean a group of 25-30 persons.
but only 2 of them know what ASA or ISO means.and my uncle has a 450D for years and doesn´t see why he should buy a new one. my father has an original 5D... and is still happy.
so why should those people bother to buy a new camera?it´s a tool for them. a tool that did his job 2008 and does it today.they don´t buy a new hammer because it looks new. they buy a hammer when the old breaks.
for most people a picture from a D70 looks the same as a picture from a D800.
with small improvements you don´t get these people to shell out 700-1000 euro or more.
well it´s simple.
there are only so many amateur morons who buy a new camera every 2-3 years. :)
the majority doesn´t see why they should buy a 700D over a 450D or 550D (insert your nikon or sony models).not for 10x15cm prints or facebook uploads.
so the market is saturated.. good is good enough for the majority.the few people on forums like dpreview doesn´t count overall.it´s not even 1% of the customers.
people normaly don´t buy a new printer just because there is a new model.they use their printers until they break.i guess the same applies to cameras.
today most who want a DSLR have a DSLR. it´s always the same.... at one point the market is saturated.
and to be honest... improvements are marginal and only visible (or important) for geeks.
mpgxsvcd: Has Canon finally abandoned the A-PSC market in favor of a slightly larger than 4/3s sensor compact camera? Their latest DSLR announcement was pathetic. Their compact sensor announcement has some real promise.
well i guess he left middle earth to troll here.
or he has a head injury...
canon is doing fine and professionals seem to think the sensors deliver great quality.
just look at the olympics and keep on shootig your 500px facebook and flicr images and discuss about image quality... you "pros" here.... LOL