ThatCamFan: I miss the old tamrac backpacks. The new designs are just ugly.
I agree. Those are "fugly". And what kind of hiking pack that does not have a reservoir, or at least a water bottle holder.
With the popularity Micro Four Thirds Systems, what will it take for DPR to review camera bags/backpacks designed and suited for the M4/3 Systems?
Let say take the biggest M4/3 body (Oly EM1 and/or Pany GH4), and a small back up body, a large lens, couple of med and small size, accessories (battery grip, extra batteries, card holder, etc.), with maybe a small laptop or tablet holder?
Would be nice :)
I'd rather buy an iPhone or an Android phone than this. I don't know what kind of future this will have (if it will ever to production but I doubt it ever will) but it will not last long. In this digital age, cameras in smartphone (iPhone and Android) will just get better. Analog? hmmmmm! I also don't think that other's will make accessories or support this.
I remember when Kodak came out with the first digital back for SLR that was used in both Nikon (DCS 4xx) and Canon DCS 5xx) 20 some years ago and they were the turning point of high end digital cameras. Yes they very expensive at the time but it was the newest and latest and greatest technology in the digital camera world.
MikeFairbanks: That's quite a hefty price for a crop sensor that's less than half the surface area of a full frame. Wow. If I were a dedicated sports photographer, especially for high-speed sports like skateboarding then I'd be all over something like this, but outside of action it's overkill at that price.
@ Alan. If you can find a New Ferrari, please get 2. I will be willing to pay you 12000 for the other one and I will come to pick it up and even buy you a several pints/liters of your favorite beer :)
You just can't satisfy everyone. cheers!
stimpy77: While I think the camera is intriguing and I like the idea of the portability of such [theoretical] image quality, I always thought that this form factor made people look like jackasses. "Oh there goes the average everyday consumer holding up their smartphone trying to take a cheap smartphone picture again." I can't imagine how derpy I'd look out on the field with one of of these. I get enough flak with my LX100.
@ FiveForm H I L A R I O U S!! LOL
dougster1979: The endless comments moaning and whining about the price of this camera.......You have a choice, yes a D750 is cheaper if thats the camera for you and you prefer full frame go buy it. If you like Landscape photography its probably not the best choice. Nobody is holding a loaded gun to you, and forcing you to make the purchase. Nikon is simply expanding it range...."but its too expensive for me....." "I can buy a D610 for this much....", "....why would I spend that much on a crop sensor..." If you don't want to, don't!!!
I agree 100%. People that whine about a product and compare it to another one of same manufacturer (or from different vendor) just don't make any sense to me. if product X, Y, Z is cheaper, have better specs, etc, than new product A, B or C, go buy the X,Y,Z. That's why manufacturers make different product level so consumer can have a choice.
Smart user will purchase a camera that will suit their need, may it be small sensor, FF, etc, doesn't care how much because it's what they need.
Some buys the new products because they can whether they need it, want it or for any other reason and not complain about it.
Choices. Choices. Choices.
HCHuang: Still no waterproof housing for AW1..sad
Ok. Have you heard any AW Series rumors? I've search everywhere and not a word. New body (AW2?) New lens? There was a rumor a while back that Nikon might introduce a AW 10-100 lens?
Here's one. I don't know which model it's designed for though.
Like every one else, I was waiting for the P8000 to see how it compares to the competition. NOTHING! Also, waiting for a refresh of the Nikon 1 AW Series (AW2?) and/or new AW lenses. NOTHING!
Anticipating to see if Nikon will come up with bigger sensor camera, not aven a rumor. Even Canon introduced the G7X, a small 1" sensor
At this point, the Panny LX100 or the GM5 looks very tempting. Thinking of pre-ordering or the other. Both if I can dig deep enough :)
But as far as this Photokina, I'm very disappointed at Nikon.
Misa: Very nice, I would buy if I could but I can not neither need to hate Leica because of my financial limitations I love those folks products.
@ electrophotoIf Panasonic does NOT manufacture an entire camera to Leica's specs, why the different design? JPEG engine? and some things? Per their partnership, Panasonic will manufacture a certain camera and if meets Leica's criteria, Leica will use that camera and add their criteria, specification, etc.
@ surelythisnameisfreeI was looking at the price difference and it's cheaper than I thought. The Pana rebadge Leicas usually command at least 25% or more. If someone can afford it, why not? I would like to drive a Lambo but can't afford it so I drive a Nissan :) People bash the Leica for being expensive. People bash the people that buy Leica's.
Where's the D600 made?
One_Oldman_4U: The price is really not that bad compared to the FF lens like the
Nikon 80-400/4 5-5.6 VR @ over $2200.00Sigma 50-500/4.5-6.3 APO @ over $1500.00
$1000.00 is a little steep for a CX lens. $799.00 would be the perfect price if you ask me.
I forgot about the 70-300 FX. Yes this lens does the job but with the addition of the adapter. Still makes a quite large set up. There's nothing better than a native lens built for a particular system. As I mentioned, I hope that 70-300 CX lens' ED glass and nano-coating lives up to the expectation.
And yes you can crop the FF to equal the CX but the advantage of this lens on a V series body is the huge reduction in size and weight. I'm old and I don't see myself lugging a full frame body with the above lenses all day long. A V1/V2/V3 with this attach, I can do it all day long plus another body or two and 3-5 lenses in a small bag. Sometime good enough is good enough. One just have to decide what fits their needs. High IQ with great sharpness = FF. Lightweight and small system with decent IQ = CX or M4/3. I'm not a "PRO" and I don't sell photographs. I do it as a hobby and for fun. To each his own.
The 70-300 CX is equivalent to 189-810mm in FF. That reach is great for birders and outdoors people. I'm really considering this lens for to attach to one of my V1 body but I'm waiting for some reviews if the ED glass and nano-coating really do live up to their potential.
The price is really not that bad compared to the FF lens like the
Spec wise, the new V3 looks good. Price wise? HA! More expensive than V2. Where's the deal here?
Personally, the new V3 looks like a dissected V2. They took the EVF and made it separate. Same with the grip. Rounded the corners and voila! here's the V3. I have to admit the stuffs under the hood looks good and promising. Hopefully it will deliver.
But the price? NOT ME!! I will wait 'til it will go on a "Fire Sale" like the V1. NO BUY FOR ME AT THIS TIME.
Will there be an update for the AW1? I want one with a EVF ala 1/V2.
I have the AW110 and it's an decent rugged compact and I'm not enthused on the 120 as an upgrade. To make a difference, they should have made the sensor bigger (1/1.7")
But I want a AWx with a EVF. There was also a rumor I read a while back that they will make the 10-100VR in a rugged version. Maybe Nikon will come out with both very soon!
Nikon should come out with a long zoom with a constant 2.8 (or better) aperture that will compete with the likes of the Panasonic FZ200 and with the bigger sensor Olympus Stylus 1. Just make one with a bigger sensor and constant aperture!
I'm still waiting for the Nikon 1 V Series upgrade.
One_Oldman_4U: It would have been better if the AW1 is a "rebadge" V1 with a viewfinder.
I long for a waterproof rugged camera with a bigger sensor, that doesn’t use housing. P&S waterproof camera are ok (I had TS1, AW100 and used some of the other brands) but they are far from good.
A V1 rebadged as the AW1 would have been better IMHO. It will be like the “Jack of All Trades” of 1” sensor cameras. Just imagine the capabilities of the V1 as it is. A small, lightweight camera, with very fast and accurate focusing, rugged, waterproof, dustproof, freeze proof, shockproof camera will be a joy for outdoorsmen and women alike.
The AW1 with the 10/2.8 and 11-27.5/3.5-5.6 is a good start for Nikon’s new addition to the Series 1 System. I would like to see a higher end version of this, the likes of the V1/V2 and maybe V3? underwater camera with viewfinder will be almost perfect. Add the underwater equivalent of the 10-100VR and we have a winner in a whole new category of rugged weatherproof cameras.
Yes. I hope Nikon Marketing will do a descent job marketing this NEW product. I own a couple of V1 and waiting for the V3. But this RUGGED, UNDERWATER, SHOCKPROOF Series 1 is very appealing to me. I will wait for the reviews and user experience before I will jump into the bandwagon. I just hope that when they update or upgrade this next year that the new model will have a EVF. Nikon can "re-badge" the V1 and I will get it. A newer V3 AW Version will be even better. I would also like an underwater version or at least weather sealed version of the 10-100VR The AW kit lens are good enough at the monent.
I understand that viewfinder is pretty much useless under, that's what the LCD is for. BUT, how much time is spent above water? That's when the viewfinder comes into play. Like on the beach, on deck of a boat, around the pool, in the desert, snow and other other out door places where the sun is bright and renders LCD pretty much unviewable. Just because it says underwater" that doesn't mean it can't be use above water. That's what make camera like this very appealing to outdoors people..divers, snorklers, hikers, kayakers, swimmers and many others. MOst that but buy the "P&S Weatherproof" cameras is because they want they want a camera that can handle the bumps, drops, water splash, mud, etc. and not worry about damaging the camera. With the AW1, now were getting to bigger sensor, better IQ. Only the price will keep people from upgrading.
It would have been better if the AW1 is a "rebadge" V1 with a viewfinder.