Marty4650: There are some folks who would "never buy a camera without a built in EVF" and there are others who buy cameras with outstanding EVFs or OVFs and still hold them at arms length, composing as if they were using a camera phone.
There are some folks who would "never buy a camera without a built in flash" and there are others who buy cameras with built in flashes and never turn the flash on. They crank up the ISO instead.
There are some folks who would "never buy a cameras without a fully articulating LCD" and there are others who spend $8,000 for cameras without them.
Point being.... what you want or need may not be what everyone else wants or needs. This camera will be perfect for someone, even if it isn't my first choice or your first choice. What Olympus has done here is simply improved and existing model to give it some more life, without spending a lot for R&D.
All the camera makers do this, and it's a smart business idea.
Agreed. For me m4/3 is a compact, lightweight camera to use when I don't want to carry my FF with f/2.8 lens. I don't need an EVF or OVF. Because it is either cheap, small and useless, or good, usefull, but big and expensive.Anyway, for VF-whiners there is a whole line in Olympus lineup - OM-D E-M1, 5 and 10. All with VFs.And there are several Panasonic with VFs.
happypoppeye: How come thete is an entire paragraph about the built in flash? ...there is no built in flash.
There is slide-in flash in the box.
ZAnton: No on-sensor PDAF - no reason to buy.
Haha, the video compares among others Oly E-M1 - the most expensive Oly with on-sensor PDAF.
I have Pen E-P1. Don't tell me how quick its AF is. Especially indoors (dark)I also checked the newest models (PL5, PL6, P5). They are faster, but not by much. And in the video it is a total fail.
Mayeye: Would love to hear from some DP members as to how this software stacks up against Lightroom/Photoshop combo or DxO Pro
Run, Forest, RUUUUUUNNN!I have Corel PaintShop X4 and GraphicsSuite X5 on the office PC, and PS+LR at home.So I would better take a day free, go home, do what I want and come back, instead of opening that Corel software.Corel is a total, pure, high quality brainfuck.
Have this program on my office computer. Extremely, epically stupid and unlogical user interface. Although I am pretty fluent with PS, I spend 2 hours TRYING to do very simple things. Finally I used a combination of MS Office Picture Manager and PowerPoint instead.The other day it took me 40 minutes to paint dots on the map (print screen) to show the way from a railway station to the office. Then I spent 20 minutes trying to save it (it saved only the BG layer). Failed.Same evening at home, I did same thing with PS in 2 minutes.
It seems that they were thinking like that: "PS has this button bottom left - we'll make it top right! ""PS calls this function "resize" - we'll call it "pixel count variation""
also in video?
"Typing" error - 1/8000s of E-M5 must be green, not red ;-)
Pat Cullinan Jr: The optional high-definition VF-4 viewfinder adds $250 to the price.
I don't need a VF. It just make the camera bigger and more expensive.If you NEED a VF - get an OM-D E-M10.
No on-sensor PDAF - no reason to buy.
If it is T1.5 instead of f/1.4 for photo lens, then it is VERY good.
AFAIK, all f/1.4 are actually 0.2-0.3 stops darker. (except probably for the Zeiss 55)
15 Gigs = 3-5 years of vacations?Haha, I did over 30 Gigs (raw files of course) at my last vacation.
RobertSigmund: Why so expensive? :-(
It is definitely cheaper than similar Canon/Nikon.
Terry Breedlove: Loving CC because my software is always up todate for a small monthly fee that is easy to budget in.
Which market forces? They are monopolist with market share like 95% or more.
Prognathous: The only thing you need to know: the $10 photography bundle is a trap.
Quote from Adobe's membership contract:
"The price of your one-year commitment (as reflected in the monthly installment amounts) may change for your next annual renewal, and we’ll provide you notice of a change by email"
In short, nothing but a teaser price. Get ready to pay through the nose as soon as you've created enough project files and can't properly open them by anything else. Good luck being Adobe's hostage.
Sorry, but those who think $10 price will stay forever are idiots. In Germany this advertisement (10 Euro) ends on 31 August this year. Then it is 25 Euro/month.Do you calculations once again, you Adobe's trolls.
desaint: Everybody complaining,i think 10 dollar a month is a bargain for such a great software tool.
@-thorn,your cell phone IS working if you change the company. You just change the SIM-card (in Eurasia at least). In many countries you even preserve your tel. number.You preserve all your telephone contacts, messages and all info you had on it.
Photo Pete: If the Adobe business model is successful how long will it be before Apple and Microsoft go the same way with their operating systems?
How robust are Adobe? Even the largest companies can fold (remember Kodak?). If Adobe fail as a company what will happen to your ability to use the software after the first failed attempt to log into the Adobe servers? What will happen to your 20Gb of Cloud storage?
Why should a hobbyist have to pay to have the latest features they don't need and why would a professional place their work entirely in the hands of another company over which they have no control?
The business model stinks and the more people that refuse to engage with it the better. Low price offers are a good sign. It is an indication that insufficient users are renting to make the scheme profitable enough.
@NetMage "The price is subject to change, but we will always notify you beforehand."
So probably €12.29 is the next year after €9.99. But it will grow. Otherwise there would not be any sense in €25 regular price. Also compare stand alone price of other products with their monthly fee. Acrobat cost around €600 for stand alone version, now it is the same €25. I doubt, that PS with ~€1000 price will cost less.They are just waiting when the shitstorm will calm down.
Uaru: Before, Adobe charged in Europe 1000 EUR for full, not upgrade, version of PS (while in USA it was 600 USD).
Now it is something like 12 EUR/month (vs 10 USD). It is still not fair, but barely acceptable.
~10 Euro/Dollar a month is just an advertisement price till the end of this August. The real price is 25 Euro/month (300 Euro/year). Doesn't look that cheap anymore, ha?
mgatov: My concern, like many here, is the fact that a subscription service gives way too much control to Adobe. They can change their pricing structure on a whim. Introduce as low of a price as you need to so your competition can't weather the storm, and then ladle on the gravy with price increases when you are the last man standing. Isn't that what monopolies do?
I remember in the earlier days when Adobe charged $450 for a set of fonts. They are the definition of unbridled greed and I have no trust in them. I will stay with my purchased copy of Lightroom, thank you very much.
eeeehh ... yes I did?
@ String.How is CC now cheaper for you? The regular price is 25 Euro/month = 300 Euro/year. I don't remember the stand alone PS price, but it was around 1000 Euro. (I don't know the update price) New PS version came every two years. So at best, you will pay now as much as you would pay if you were buying EVERY single PS update. Or more.The price 10$/Euro per month is solely an advertisement, which is by the way runs till the end of this August.