bluemoonman: Congratulations on your 1st place finish, great detail & colors.
Cheers bluemoonman, and thank you for donating your time to host these FZ challenges.
ysal: Congrats Stevie, a beautiful shot!
RuthC: Congratulations, Stevie Boy Blue, on coming third with this beauty, in this 'Beauty of Feathers' challenge. This is an excellent example of the aerodynamics of a simple feather. It looks so soft, and and delicate, yet it is able to withstand incredible forces which enables the bird to fly. A beautiful, very simple capture. Ruth :-)
Cheers Ruth, and extra thanks for setting up a challenge that gave me the idea for this image. :-)
ysal: Wow Stevie, how ever did you capture this? Beauty in simplicity.
Thanks ysal. Glad you like the photograph, but, despite your enquiry, there’ll be no secret tactics revealed here. ;-) Cheers :-)
RuthC: What a delightful capture, Stevie Boy Blue, and it deserves second place in this Feathers Challenge. I love the colours here, which aren't over-saturated, but true to life. Lots of interesting details and textures to contemplate, yet the whole photo isn't too busy. Thinks: "Why do I feel I'm being looked at?" Great picture. Ruth :-)
Thanks for the comment Ruth. I appreciate your time. I can also fully appreciate why you feel you’re being looked at. I almost entitled the image ‘The Eyes Have It’ but then thought that might elicit a few low votes for my appearing a little presumptuous.
Looking at the final votes cast here, however, it appears there’s just no preventing low scores no matter what we call our pics. These sandbagging types are such lovely and sporting folks who seem to enjoy nothing more than marking down images just to prevent them from winning. ;-) Not that I ever dreamt this image was a potential winner, of course – especially as I’d already anticipated one or two low scores. :-) Thanks again.
A worthy and unsurprising winner if ever I saw one. Looked like a first place shot to me from the moment it was posted and I admit to giving this one a high vote, despite my having entered the challenge myself. Very well done.
I’d certainly like the opportunity to photograph a bird with such a striking and unusual plumage as this. Alas, however, I’ll probably never see such a creature here in the UK, at least beyond the confines of any Zoo or similar enclosure that has yet to obtain one for public display.
Many congratulations and thanks for allowing us to see the image. :-)
Merops, I did place a genuine rodent pic in this challenge but decided to withdraw it on the first day of voting pretty much for the reasons outlined in your post below. Furthermore I'd also question whether some entries were actually taken in a 'Zoo'.
Maybe, just maybe, the host has been unable to 'police' their challenge as originally intended (PC or connection problems or, perish the thought, ill-health perhaps?), and it will be a shame if a meerkat, rabbit, otter, mongoose or other non-appropriate species gains more votes than any images that fully comply with the Rodent title.
Time, of course, will reveal an outcome. ;-)
You’re right about the rabbits not being rodents. Furthermore, as far as I’m aware, meerkats and otters are non-rodent species too. ;-)
Thanks very much for congratulations, everyone, your comments are much appreciated. :-)
Extra thanks go to RuthC for setting up and running the challenge. As a fellow host, I know how much work is involved with these things, save to mention the time involved with each one. Cheers. :-)
Stevie Boy Blue: I like this image. Whilst I sympathise that some questionable voting may be going on (which is something I’m attempting to look into), it appears to be occurring only in a minority of cases.
Maybe, just maybe, some of those responsible for giving low votes here recognise this image from other challenges. Although there’s arguably nothing wrong with entering the same pic multiple times, I can see you’ve now used this (or a very similar) photo on five occasions.
Whilst you and I may feel it’s fine to do so, there’s an idea that some voters don’t like to see repeats and such people could be inclined to give low votes to specific shots just on that basis. Of the four challenges in which you’ve entered this image beforehand, you’ve taken 2 x 5th and 2 x 3rd spots, so 4th position here is something I wouldn’t be disappointed about. Well done.
In the opinion to which you're entitled to hold, it may be a lame reason, but here’s a quote from a post made in 2011, the link to which someone kindly sent to me and which I’ve included below: “TBH, if I keep seeing the same photo I will get tired of seeing it and start voting it lower because I won’t like it much anymore…”
That’s just one member who openly admits to giving low scores. There ‘could be’ countless others who would not admit doing so and it probably won’t matter whether the repeated image has won previous challenges or come 3rd, 4th, 5th or wherever in them. They ‘may’ still vote it down.
The same person who kindly supplied the above link also sent me this one, from which I won’t quote here:
In closing, except to wish you happy shooting yet again, I’ve neither the time nor inclination to add anything to what I’ve said here and above. Bye for now...
jcmarfilph: Great challenge but once again somebody got spanked by idiot voters. You don't vote the brand but the photo. You don't look at the exif and vote your favorite camera. You don't give 0.5 vote to pull down someone. It has been a great pleasure joining your challenges Stevie. This will be my last as I feel voting system is still full of magic.
For what it's worth, I agree 100% with your view, ysal. As far as I'm aware, very few escape low voting in any challenges.
Although I don't enter my own challenges, I know for sure that a few of the entries I've made in other host's affairs have been subjected to low scoring and there could be any number of reasons why anyone marks an image down. It could simply be that they do like it, or they've seen it in numerous other challenges, or it could be sandbagging amongst many others.
Most of what I have to say on the subject can be read here: http://www.dpreview.com/challenges/Entry.aspx?ID=805260&View=Results&Rows=4
I've nothing else to add at this time, except to endorse your belief that, currently, the best way to beat the vote-manipulators is to keep entering the photos.
Regards to all who enter my challenges and/or read my comments. Bye for now...
If you read my first post again, you will note my stating: “Although there’s arguably nothing wrong with entering the same pic multiple times, I can see you’ve now used this (or a very similar) photo on five occasions.”
That statement does not imply in any way that there is a rule where entrants ‘MUST NOT’ submit a photo from a previous challenge. Thus far, no such rule has applied in my challenges.
I merely go on to give potential reasons why your image ‘may’ have received a few low votes. I suggest that some people don’t like to see the same images in different challenges and therefore ‘may’ vote accordingly.
No explanation of as to your only visiting the festival once to obtain said image was required. No defence is necessary. I am not judging you here. I am merely expressing an opinion as to why your entry came fourth, and for what it’s worth I agree that if low votes are cast deliberately to bring down overall scores of certain images, it is a shame.
Happy shooting to ya...
Nice shot ysal.
I like this image. Whilst I sympathise that some questionable voting may be going on (which is something I’m attempting to look into), it appears to be occurring only in a minority of cases.
As the challenge host, I say well-done on your deserved third place. As a keen wildlife fan, I appreciate how difficult it can be to grab some subjects, especially as they're just about to perch up. Nice one.
As the challenge host, I have to say that this is one of my favourite images here. At the very least, a well deserved second place if ever I saw one.
As the challenge host, I say well done on taking first place here.
kkardster: It's great to see the variety of entries here - many that are nowhere near the "superzoom" reach. It just shows how versatile these gems really are while also showcasing what these "pinhead" wonders are capable of.
I completely agree kk. Although it would be unfair of me to disclose which images I like up to now, there are some splendid entries in this challenge, regardless of the focal lengths at which they were shot. Cheers...
Indeed there was ysal, and I can assure you that I won't be arranging another at MAX focal length. The first was an absolute nightmare and very time-consuming to host, save to mention that over half the total number of images posted didn't make the voting stages.
I believe that kkardster's referring mainly to the diversity of content in this particular challenge, and I have to agree. Not, of course, that I've ever been in any doubt as to what these 'pin-head' sensor cams are capable of in terms of image output and regardless of focal length. :-)