Iam1of2: Yes, but what have they done to improve the base processes like providing curves, smart objects, 16 bit processing, etc. So far, all I read is that they have provided "fluff" for work that could have been previously accomplished by a little extra step or two in the past couple of versions. Nothing here of value for me. I'd rather spend $50 on "Elements XXL" which adds about 200 Photoshop features to Elements as a plugin.
Could not agree more with you. Fluff.
perivalepaul: If I upgrade it will be from version 9.
Two questions, do you you think it will be of benefit from 9 to 13 and does 13 contain the pen tool ?
I'll be using it for photo work and very little if any video.
Well, I use 11 and I find it way way better than 10, which is what I upgraded from. Where I see the difference is in the enhancements, the conversion to B&W and the actual user interface.
So nothing professional, just a bunch of amateur stuff.
For my money, they should have a full set of curves. Actually, all I would want for Elements is:
1. Real curves2. Ability to write "actions" (Macros)
Anzere08: What was the deal breaker for me since the X10 has been the on/off process (you have to turn the lens to turn the camera on or off). I tried the camera for a week and it became annoying. It doesn't allow you to use the camera with one hand. I was hoping for the third generation they would add a classic on/off switch like on all their other cameras.
yes. That is a real pain. Royal actually.
MarcMedios: I bought the X20 at $600 and have never ever looked back. It is an amazing camera. There are two areas in which I found it to excel:
1. Street photography, where the camera is as unobstrusive as it gets yet, the fast lens and lack of shutter lag deliver time after time
2. Concert photography, where the fast zoom and ability to set manual controls quickly provide a huge advantage. In many concerts I find myself outshooting other pros with 7D's and such.
The X30 will definitely be in my replacement list
Absolutely. the NEX would have an edge on 2 things: extended ISO and less noise I think.
However, I am not an absolutist, I don't think this is a this versus that choice. I liked the X20 for many other reasons, one of which was that it fits well in a pocket.
And, basically, I just liked it. The NEX I liked (I haven't kept up to date on them) was the NEX 7 which I think was almost the perfect camera at the time.
To my original point, I love the camera: it is great for street, great for concerts but I would never venture to say it is the "best" for either. I just happen to like it a lot.
MarcMedios: Meh. What's the point of spending a ton of money if your other photographer friends are not going to salivate?
darngooddesign... must be awful to be you! Living life literally. You can't recognize a ribbing comment if it bites you in the ass.
Ozyzy - In a concert situation, i find the X20 will hold its own against SLR's on a couple of fronts:
1. Very small, non-intrusive so what I find is that I can go straight into the musicians and shoot from a few inches (don't ask me why, but when I do it with the SRL they all "pose" but not with the X20)
2. The motion cancelling is strong on the X20, so I don't have to push as hard
In both cases, I find myself shooting with the same lens range; with my 60D (which is my "concert" SLR) I use the 24-105 F4 almost exclusively now; the X20 has pretty much the same range. I find that I don't need any longer lens (after all, I am onstage with them) though I would welcome a wider low end.
But, hey, that's me. And I use both, the X20 and the 60D. I hardly ever take the 7D to concerts; I like the articulated screen on the 60D and, frankly, it is my "cheap" body
Meh. What's the point of spending a ton of money if your other photographer friends are not going to salivate?
I bought the X20 at $600 and have never ever looked back. It is an amazing camera. There are two areas in which I found it to excel:
Excellent article --certainly it taught me a lot. From the many posts below it seems to have hit a real need. Thanks.
We need the android version
This camera is so underwhelming. Really, for $2,000 you have so many better choices and especially when it comes to lenses. 3.5 to 5.6's are kit lens territory, not serious photography tools
So... following Leica's journey from real camera to fashion accesory, Hasselblad --up until now the standard in large format photography-- has also become a fashion accesory and "certifies" cell phone cameras in an $11,000 cell phone. I don't know about the Swedes, but at least the Japanese had the inner strength to commit suicide when their dignity was lost.
Marla2008: 1" sensor.... yawn....
@Rastad - as I said, I tried them. My sister bought them. I found them really really bad. Sorry, but I am not buying that particular Nikon brand. And, no, the X20 is just not "pocketable" at ALL. But overall, I find it 1000% better than my sister's like nikons
MarcMedios: This camera is a real game changer. My main objection (shared by many pros I know) was the lack of viewfinder. First, who wants to look like a soccer mom focusing and second, impossible to really frame and focus in most conditions. The pop up viewfinder destroys all of those objections in a second. Also, it doesn't eat valuable real estate on the top of the camera. Add that to absolutely no shutter lag, a quality lens and a 20mp sensor and you have the beginning of the end of low-end pro-wannabe cameras. Thank god it costs $800 meaning a lot of soccer moms and mammarazzis won't buy it. Next step, a 5:1 zoom, perhaps 24-135? That would be a killer combo
Oh... Liz Z. ... if I actually cared about your opinion, I might even feel remotely uneasy or something. But... truly... I couldn't care less. If you can't even recognize a mild joke, hey, your loss. I certainly would not want to be you.
MarcMedios: This is such bad timing for Canon!!!!
They remove the ONE thing that made the G-Series great: the viewfinder, offering one as an option and having the viewfinder increase the footprint of the camera.
Then they still haven't solved the issue of shutter lag.
Sony 100-III anyone?????
@MarcLee - it is academic now. I tried the GX1 and found the shutter lag horrible, so I purchased the Fuji X20 which has zero lag and great optics.
SantaFeBill: Just a note to posters: The article is questioning Nikon's _strategy_, not the camera per se.
People complain about the usage too. My sister bought one (the one without the viewfinder, the J? V? Something like that) and it sucked major... major! The image quality was miserable, the screen was difficult to use as it was darkish... awful. She returned it after a month.
Just to be sure... if silent shutters are so important (and to me, they are), the Fuji X20 is silent, the Panasonic Lumixes are silent. Doesn't seem to be a big deal.
MarcMedios: These little Nikons can't be taken seriously. A mild telephoto (10-30mm) with an aperture of 5.6 on the 30? Get real. It is just not competitive at all. The removal of the viewfinder, just to sell it back to you at $200 or so is really criminal.
Ecopix - with respect to Roland Barthes... really, so what? You could apply the phrase to any camera.
The little Nikons are really not to be taken seriously and the market was highly reflective of that. They really haven't sold at all. People are more intelligent than most marketers realize.
1. Tiny telephoto: 3:12. AWWWWWful fstop: 5.6? Jeez. 3. No viewfinder
jhwaaser: I am shocked at the lousy response to the Kodak name on here. Kodak invented digital photography, and Kodak, Nikon, and Olympus, all involved in film photography, were the first to tame the excess contrast of the charge coupled device. As a professional photographer, I tried Agfa, Ilford, and even earlier, Ansco products, but I discovered that Nikon cameras and Kodak film, paper, and chemicals made it easier for mecto make top quality photos without problems. I owned, used, and loved Kodak Z510 and Z712 cameras (okay, so my C735 was a p.o.s.) and I thought I would wait and get a Z-Max at a cheap price when they went out of business, but they sold out of that model first, and I lost out. One of my favorite film cameras was the Retina, and I had a iiic stolen out of a Stouffers motel, and haven't bought a Stouffers product since! High-end Kodak products rock, and I hope that the new products treat the brand name as well as, say, the resurrected Triumph motorcycles....
But Kodak is out of business.
Nikon is not. Canon is not. Sony is not. A bunch of other companies are not.
So, whether they invented digital photography in 1975 or June 21st, 1974, it is pointless and only shows a narrow vision of the world. The fact is, they did not do anything with it, did not capitalize on their invention and went ignominiously out of business.
Those are the important facts.
15 years, 30 years... pointless semantics from someone who clearly doesn't see the big picture.