Retzius: 99% of the people who buy this lens won't read a review about it, or even check to see if one exists. Instead, how about we review the types of lenses that enthusiasts use, you know, the people who actually read lens reviews.
It's ok...I agree with you Retzius. Lenses like this one will be sold by the thousands at your local mall.....bought by soccer Moms/Dads to go with their brand new Digital Rebel that they haven't got a clue how to use. 'So should I shoot RAW if I use this lens'?
Yeah...they won't be reading reviews...they don't even understand what a 18-270 focal range is.
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Posted on Dec 21, 2012 at 19:35:20 UTC
Ivan Lietaert: "a top notch fast 35mm autofocus prime without breaking the bank" Priced £900, the author obviously must be making a fortune writing for DPreview! This lens is priced at a working man's monthly income. I wouldn't call that cheap! Please think twice before you write this kind of thing!
Nobody said photography is cheap. If you make $900/month maybe a cheaper hobby is in line...or lower expectations for what gear you want.
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Posted on Dec 21, 2012 at 19:21:56 UTC
SigmaChrome: I find it truly amazing that Adobe still insists on NOT supporting current Foveon technology. Sigma maintains that it has made the all necessary information available - Adobe (for reasons best know to themselves) simply refuses to take it on board. Why? There is a tremendous rise in the number of people taking up the use of Sigma cameras like the DP2M and DP1M - and there would probably be a higher uptake of SD1M users if Adobe took up the challenge. What's stopping them?
@Sigmachrome - Ahh don't take things so seriously life is too short....come on, it WAS funny!! Really what I said was true though...if Sigma had sold the cameras in question in any great numbers than Adobe would likely have invested in the converter for them.
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Posted on Dec 17, 2012 at 17:49:31 UTC
Chekr: Given that within one week we have had three major vendors release big patches to support new raw camera formats, is it not time for Adobe, Apple, Microsoft, DXO, etc to get together and work on a collaborative way of doing this? What a waste of resources.
Gothmoth...your Leica only lost 10-15%...really??? An M9 a year ago sold new for $7000 plus tax. The day the M10 was announced people were selling used M9's for $4000.
The lenses on the other hand....yes, they actually work out to be an investment which is why I will never sell my Leica glass.
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Posted on Dec 13, 2012 at 17:09:44 UTC
SigmaChrome: I find it truly amazing that Adobe still insists on NOT supporting current Foveon technology. Sigma maintains that it has made the all necessary information available - Adobe (for reasons best know to themselves) simply refuses to take it on board. Why? There is a tremendous rise in the number of people taking up the use of Sigma cameras like the DP2M and DP1M - and there would probably be a higher uptake of SD1M users if Adobe took up the challenge. What's stopping them?
Maybe because only 4 people worldwide bought an SD1.....and another 20 bought the DP2
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Posted on Dec 13, 2012 at 17:07:28 UTC
zdys: Just ordered a Leica M adapter - the low cost version. Will test some Zeiss and Leica lenses on it. Elmarit 28mm seems to be a good choice for this machine, what do you think? It should be the always with me camera/ lens combination.
Forgot to mention, I also have a 50mm Summicron that works quite nicely on the Fuji, so it seems to be the wide angle lenses with issues.
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Posted on Dec 11, 2012 at 18:58:26 UTC
zdys: Just ordered a Leica M adapter - the low cost version. Will test some Zeiss and Leica lenses on it. Elmarit 28mm seems to be a good choice for this machine, what do you think? It should be the always with me camera/ lens combination.
Buyer beware! I own a Zeiss 25mm Biogon that I tried on my XPro1 with the M adapter...and the results are awful. Basically the outer third of the image is smeared with little detail. The same Lens on my Leica M8 was TACK sharp right into the corners, even at f2.8
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Vitruvius: Just like all artistic competitions, totally subjective. The lighting in winning entry posted above is comlpetely staged as you can see by the shadows of the leaves on the trailer, and yet the intent of Barnack's rangefinders was to enable compact photo journalistic style cameras. what a contradiction of intent.
"The history of photojournalism is closely tied to his invention, as, beginning in 1925, the compact and easily carried Leica cameras were instrumental in enabling entirely new and expressive forms of photography."
Vitruvius - Looks to me to just be a sodium vapour street lamp or similar that provided the 'lighting'. I do night photography all the time and make use of existing light sources...this doesn't look much different.
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Posted on Dec 10, 2012 at 19:43:22 UTC
WilliamJ: I doubt the "geisha" in the picture is a real one. She has not the good make up (too "unnuanced", too harsh), not the good gears (usually kimonos that colorful are for young apprentices, moreover a real geisha's collar has to be white) and usually real Kyoto geishas go by taxi to their appointment often accompanied by a pupil/assistant or a chaperon. Here are real geishas, just compare: http://yabbedoo.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/the-extraordinary-culture-of-geisha-and-fascinating-facts-about-their-lifestyle/
Besides, this photo is really worthless (a pure snapshot) that lessen the outstanding quality of the rest of the McCurry's work. He should stop to use it as it's technical nothing and has no value from a journalistic point of view.
Javier, no one said you couldn't post here. I'm referring to these 'critiques' from a bunch of hacks who are not photographers, and therefore their opinion is meaningless...at least to me.
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Posted on Dec 7, 2012 at 04:49:09 UTC
Javier...did you read what I said??? As for your right to post...yes anyone can post here but the opinions of those who are A)crappy photographers or B) don't post their own work, mean nothing to me. Why would I care about someone's opinion on photography if they are not a photographer??
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Posted on Dec 6, 2012 at 19:17:27 UTC
WilliamJ: I doubt the "geisha" in the picture is a real one. She has not the good make up (too "unnuanced", too harsh), not the good gears (usually kimonos that colorful are for young apprentices, moreover a real geisha's collar has to be white) and usually real Kyoto geishas go by taxi to their appointment often accompanied by a pupil/assistant or a chaperon. Here are real geishas, just compare: http://yabbedoo.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/the-extraordinary-culture-of-geisha-and-fascinating-facts-about-their-lifestyle/
Besides, this photo is really worthless (a pure snapshot) that lessen the outstanding quality of the rest of the McCurry's work. He should stop to use it as it's technical nothing and has no value from a journalistic point of view.
Javier/William let's see your ground breaking works of art. Oh yeah, that's right, you don't have any.
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Posted on Dec 6, 2012 at 19:13:55 UTC
"the fact that he "dared enter a warzone", and the details of same, serve nothing to prove his photographic merit."
This is where you are wrong Gediminas. You know what....I am certain I could get some excellent images if I were inserted in a warzone or had access to some of the exotic locales people like McCurry shoot in.
But you know what...it's irrelevant because unlike Steve 99% of us lack the people skills, courage, determination, ingenuity required to put us in a position to take those photos to begin with. You see, those traits are just as important to being a good photographer as knowing light, composition and your way around a camera.
In order to get these iconic photos you need the wherewithal to get access to the subject, and the common sense to get home again.
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Posted on Dec 6, 2012 at 18:41:53 UTC
Norbert75: One more time, it seems as they have forgottent the Fuji XPRO-1 !!!
Olivier, what about testing the XPro1/XE1 for a sensor score? I realize that providing DXO software support is a challenge, but surely there is nothing stopping you guys from benchmarking the cameras' sensor as per Nikon/Canon etc.
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Posted on Dec 5, 2012 at 18:37:40 UTC
nicolaiecostel: Well, it doesn't look like it's going to be on par with the canon L or the nikon G, but at roughly half the price, in my country, it would be naive to expect that. The image quality is decent, vignetting is acceptable, not much chromatic abberation, pretty good sharpness. I don't relally like the colors, they are pretty bland, sigma style, or maybe it's that canon sensor. Also, the bokeh isn't something to rave about, the highlights are pretty dissapoiting, showing a texture in the highlight blobs. This being said, this lens does cost about 800E brand new in the store, so the only real choices for this money or less are the f/2 lenses from canon/nikon, if you want AF, that is.
Maybe I'm alone on this one but to me the Sigma looks like it will be better than the Canon 35L. Trust me, I'm not a Sigma fan so I'm hardly biased.
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Posted on Dec 4, 2012 at 23:34:56 UTC
Everyone check out the 14mm f/2.8 by Samyang, Vivitar, Sakar, Polar, Walimex, Rokinon. The lens is identical regardless of which brand you select. Prices might be slightly different. Rokinon version is only $379.00!!!
It’s a great quality lens for less $$$ than what Fuji will charge for theirs.
You need to buy an inexpensive adapter to use the lens on the X-E1 or X-PRO1.
Vancouver, Canada
Erik Johansen: For that price it should got a 100% score.......
Great minds think alike:)
Retzius: 99% of the people who buy this lens won't read a review about it, or even check to see if one exists. Instead, how about we review the types of lenses that enthusiasts use, you know, the people who actually read lens reviews.
It's ok...I agree with you Retzius. Lenses like this one will be sold by the thousands at your local mall.....bought by soccer Moms/Dads to go with their brand new Digital Rebel that they haven't got a clue how to use. 'So should I shoot RAW if I use this lens'?
Yeah...they won't be reading reviews...they don't even understand what a 18-270 focal range is.
Ivan Lietaert: "a top notch fast 35mm autofocus prime without breaking the bank"
Priced £900, the author obviously must be making a fortune writing for DPreview! This lens is priced at a working man's monthly income. I wouldn't call that cheap! Please think twice before you write this kind of thing!
Nobody said photography is cheap. If you make $900/month maybe a cheaper hobby is in line...or lower expectations for what gear you want.
unotisto: How nice. Now there's hardly anything to complain about on DPR, now that nobody can say they don't review anything/review only superzooms.
Count me in as one who whined about the superzoom reviews....
I'm happy to see the review on this Sigma....looks good and will be on my list to buy.
Erik Johansen: For that price it should got a 100% score.......
It's cheap compared to Canikon. Geez...some of you people are never happy.
SigmaChrome: I find it truly amazing that Adobe still insists on NOT supporting current Foveon technology. Sigma maintains that it has made the all necessary information available - Adobe (for reasons best know to themselves) simply refuses to take it on board. Why? There is a tremendous rise in the number of people taking up the use of Sigma cameras like the DP2M and DP1M - and there would probably be a higher uptake of SD1M users if Adobe took up the challenge. What's stopping them?
@Sigmachrome - Ahh don't take things so seriously life is too short....come on, it WAS funny!!
Really what I said was true though...if Sigma had sold the cameras in question in any great numbers than Adobe would likely have invested in the converter for them.
Chekr: Given that within one week we have had three major vendors release big patches to support new raw camera formats, is it not time for Adobe, Apple, Microsoft, DXO, etc to get together and work on a collaborative way of doing this? What a waste of resources.
Gothmoth...your Leica only lost 10-15%...really??? An M9 a year ago sold new for $7000 plus tax. The day the M10 was announced people were selling used M9's for $4000.
The lenses on the other hand....yes, they actually work out to be an investment which is why I will never sell my Leica glass.
SigmaChrome: I find it truly amazing that Adobe still insists on NOT supporting current Foveon technology. Sigma maintains that it has made the all necessary information available - Adobe (for reasons best know to themselves) simply refuses to take it on board. Why? There is a tremendous rise in the number of people taking up the use of Sigma cameras like the DP2M and DP1M - and there would probably be a higher uptake of SD1M users if Adobe took up the challenge. What's stopping them?
Maybe because only 4 people worldwide bought an SD1.....and another 20 bought the DP2
zdys: Just ordered a Leica M adapter - the low cost version. Will test some Zeiss and Leica lenses on it. Elmarit 28mm seems to be a good choice for this machine, what do you think? It should be the always with me camera/ lens combination.
Forgot to mention, I also have a 50mm Summicron that works quite nicely on the Fuji, so it seems to be the wide angle lenses with issues.
zdys: Just ordered a Leica M adapter - the low cost version. Will test some Zeiss and Leica lenses on it. Elmarit 28mm seems to be a good choice for this machine, what do you think? It should be the always with me camera/ lens combination.
Buyer beware! I own a Zeiss 25mm Biogon that I tried on my XPro1 with the M adapter...and the results are awful. Basically the outer third of the image is smeared with little detail.
The same Lens on my Leica M8 was TACK sharp right into the corners, even at f2.8
Vitruvius: Just like all artistic competitions, totally subjective. The lighting in winning entry posted above is comlpetely staged as you can see by the shadows of the leaves on the trailer, and yet the intent of Barnack's rangefinders was to enable compact photo journalistic style cameras. what a contradiction of intent.
"The history of photojournalism is closely tied to his invention, as, beginning in 1925, the compact and easily carried Leica cameras were instrumental in enabling entirely new and expressive forms of photography."
Vitruvius - Looks to me to just be a sodium vapour street lamp or similar that provided the 'lighting'. I do night photography all the time and make use of existing light sources...this doesn't look much different.
massimogori: yawn!
Javier...it's easy to trash the work of legends while you hide behind a keyboard, with none of your own work to qualify your opinion.
WilliamJ: I doubt the "geisha" in the picture is a real one. She has not the good make up (too "unnuanced", too harsh), not the good gears (usually kimonos that colorful are for young apprentices, moreover a real geisha's collar has to be white) and usually real Kyoto geishas go by taxi to their appointment often accompanied by a pupil/assistant or a chaperon. Here are real geishas, just compare: http://yabbedoo.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/the-extraordinary-culture-of-geisha-and-fascinating-facts-about-their-lifestyle/
Besides, this photo is really worthless (a pure snapshot) that lessen the outstanding quality of the rest of the McCurry's work. He should stop to use it as it's technical nothing and has no value from a journalistic point of view.
Javier, no one said you couldn't post here. I'm referring to these 'critiques' from a bunch of hacks who are not photographers, and therefore their opinion is meaningless...at least to me.
massimogori: yawn!
Javier...did you read what I said??? As for your right to post...yes anyone can post here but the opinions of those who are A)crappy photographers or B) don't post their own work, mean nothing to me. Why would I care about someone's opinion on photography if they are not a photographer??
WilliamJ: I doubt the "geisha" in the picture is a real one. She has not the good make up (too "unnuanced", too harsh), not the good gears (usually kimonos that colorful are for young apprentices, moreover a real geisha's collar has to be white) and usually real Kyoto geishas go by taxi to their appointment often accompanied by a pupil/assistant or a chaperon. Here are real geishas, just compare: http://yabbedoo.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/the-extraordinary-culture-of-geisha-and-fascinating-facts-about-their-lifestyle/
Besides, this photo is really worthless (a pure snapshot) that lessen the outstanding quality of the rest of the McCurry's work. He should stop to use it as it's technical nothing and has no value from a journalistic point of view.
Javier/William let's see your ground breaking works of art. Oh yeah, that's right, you don't have any.
massimogori: yawn!
"the fact that he "dared enter a warzone", and the details of same, serve nothing to prove his photographic merit."
This is where you are wrong Gediminas. You know what....I am certain I could get some excellent images if I were inserted in a warzone or had access to some of the exotic locales people like McCurry shoot in.
But you know what...it's irrelevant because unlike Steve 99% of us lack the people skills, courage, determination, ingenuity required to put us in a position to take those photos to begin with. You see, those traits are just as important to being a good photographer as knowing light, composition and your way around a camera.
In order to get these iconic photos you need the wherewithal to get access to the subject, and the common sense to get home again.
Mr Fartleberry: If it's possible to wear out a photo that old Afghan one would be it.
You have to love how the talentless love to criticize the talented. It's an iconic photo...iconic photos get exposure...that's why they are iconic.
Norbert75: One more time, it seems as they have forgottent the Fuji XPRO-1 !!!
Olivier, what about testing the XPro1/XE1 for a sensor score? I realize that providing DXO software support is a challenge, but surely there is nothing stopping you guys from benchmarking the cameras' sensor as per Nikon/Canon etc.
nicolaiecostel: Well, it doesn't look like it's going to be on par with the canon L or the nikon G, but at roughly half the price, in my country, it would be naive to expect that. The image quality is decent, vignetting is acceptable, not much chromatic abberation, pretty good sharpness. I don't relally like the colors, they are pretty bland, sigma style, or maybe it's that canon sensor. Also, the bokeh isn't something to rave about, the highlights are pretty dissapoiting, showing a texture in the highlight blobs. This being said, this lens does cost about 800E brand new in the store, so the only real choices for this money or less are the f/2 lenses from canon/nikon, if you want AF, that is.
Maybe I'm alone on this one but to me the Sigma looks like it will be better than the Canon 35L. Trust me, I'm not a Sigma fan so I'm hardly biased.
rjx: Don’t worry!!!!
Everyone check out the 14mm f/2.8 by Samyang, Vivitar, Sakar, Polar, Walimex, Rokinon. The lens is identical regardless of which brand you select. Prices might be slightly different. Rokinon version is only $379.00!!!
It’s a great quality lens for less $$$ than what Fuji will charge for theirs.
You need to buy an inexpensive adapter to use the lens on the X-E1 or X-PRO1.
Adapters:
http://www.rainbowimaging.biz/shop/search.php?orderby=position&orderway=desc&submit_search=Search&search_query=FUJI+X-PRO1+
http://fotodioxpro.com/index.php/catalogsearch/result/?q=fuji+adapter
http://www.dl-kipon.com/en/articledetail.asp?id=54
ETC
Take a look at these 14mm images!!!
http://500px.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=samyang+14mm&type=photos&page=1&order=votes&license_type=-1
http://www.flickr.com/groups/14/pool/
http://500px.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=rokinon+14mm
Yes...except that the lens is twice the size of the Fuji and manual focus only. The reason people like me bought an XPro was for the smaller size.
I do agree that the 14mm Samyang is a great lens, I will be getting one for my 5D2:)