Dazzer8888: Looks pretty cool, not sure why people are bitchin' about it......sure, you won't fnd many serious filmmakers using one because of the low resolution, but i like the look of those shots from the demo vid, and i imagine it will be quite cheap.
At $125 a pop, it is really not cheap.
ronny hermans: It's so simple, they still think that mirrorless isn't for a real photographers.
Once Pentax didn't think a digital slr was the way to go and got left behind, (and had to work hard to get back in the game).
Who will be left behind now ?
Ive been travelling Europe for 6 months and I see equal numbers of MILC and DSLR amongst the travellers. I see less compacts and only one EOS M. I woukd never buy one when Samsung offers more for a similar price.
love2travelfar: amazing innovation! Great job Canon.
zigi_S: You can get an Olympus e-pl3 with kit lens for 249€ in Europe. A current model the E-PM2 with kit lens for 420€. A fuji x-m1 the most cheap you can get with a kit lens is 799€. I don't see how these cameras are comparable. The fuji just doesn't belong into this group. For that money you can get a canon 60d and a nikon d7000. Cameras certainly not belonging to entry class.
Entry does not have to mean really cheap. The Fuji XM is expensive but it is the Fuji entry option after the enthusiast XPro and intermediate XE models.. Price is an issue in this category, but it might not be the 'forced to buy the cheapest' issue given that the user level of the camera is the other facet to the article.
PGen: I consider myself to be a typical member of the "enthousiast compact" segment. Given the difficulties with definitions, PR has done a nice job in selecting some good cameras. Two remarks: I include the Sony RX-10 and the Casio EX-10 in my assessment. I also consider IL cameras with the benefit of a larger sensor, as long as they are compact. The Olympus E-P5, the Panasonics GM1 and GX7, or the Fuji X-E2 are heading in the right direction.
ILC are covered elsewhere, compacts have been made there. Compacts by definition have a fixed lens.
iconne: I am looking for a quick buy on a camera to take to Thanksgiving as our broke yesterday. Please give me your thoughts. Leica DLUX4 or Panasonic LX7?
I'm trying to keep the price point down and this will be a family camera.
Id beg you to consider the Canon S100, S105, S110, S120 range of compacts. Its basically a baby G16 and if you get last years model its $200. Anyone disagree for performance/compactness/ease of use/price ratio?
Rob Sims: Should the title of this particular article really have been "Small but serious" when the two recommendations were by far largest and heaviest cameras (400g / 390g) in the group, despite having the smallest sensors?
(And before the hordes of m43 users come screaming in rubbishing every other sensor size, I don't disagree with either recommendations, just perhaps the title of the article)
Using metric measurments for the benefit of yourself, the world and consistency? Priceless
Der Steppenwolf: Great quality. I can see Nikon and Canon sh****** their pants now. Thank you Sony for giving us an alternative.
Lol, shooting videovideo like a pro on a non cinema camera. Industry pros still use real cameras. Hoorah for the DF and its deliberable decision to disable the Video. Cameras for stills is not a bad thing. So please dont bring 'pro' into it.
Infared: "(although we're pretty sure that Leica's latest APO-Summicron-M 50mm f/2 ASPH will give it a run for its money)."
....but the Summicron is only an f/2.0? :-)
Id rather it, If only it could be mounted on SLRs. I dont think anyone who owns a Leica doesnt want summicrons. Only when you need need need that seperation between the stops (or going out to shoot in the dark) is when id want a faster lens. And if nocturnal sbooting is the question, go a Nocton! Or Voights f1.1.
Good work, Quite prompt to!
JEROME NOLAS: I hope Ricoh have already a slimer version of this camera (drawing board) with fixed zoom 24-50mm, 2.8-4.0.
This is pretty small for the sensor size.
Jogger: First prize should have been the X Vario!
Or a Leica M ans lens worth 4 X varios. What on earth are you smoking! I own 3 Leicas, I dont always shoot with them, neither are they expensive models. They just are nice to look at, use and have. The quality is there too. So what they cost a bunch, so do sports cars, no one picks on sports cars, they just stand stand back and say "cool". Give Leica a break.
Classy boys! Love the 60's colour.
OBI656: From what I see, Canon is fooling around with us. Their latest "innovation" white painted camera is at least a joke !
This A7r with three-four Zeiss glasses will be my choice for years to come.
The Eos M was a sucess? Let alone a bulldozing sucess?
Horshack: This should breathe more life into these discontinued camera models.
D3200 is D/C?
mantra: Hithanks for the reviewbut i have never understood how dxo perform such testsfor example a camera like Nikon D5200 that i can buy for 450€ is rated better then canon 1dx or the 5d mark3
or for example the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1 better then Phase One IQ180 or Nikon d4
really i tried to read everything ,i have never understood
by the way thanks for the preview !
What a waffly comment im sorry, I mean high scoring cameras are only compared to cameras of similar level. This is how DP review operates, perhaps DxO also
Do they rate within a category. Eg. A compact that scores high ia different from a Ff body that scores high?
Krich13: I don't get it. According to the dprevirew test (performed by DXO?) $500 Sigma 50/1.4 (which has GREAT bokeh!) tested on the same camera (D800) is better than this 58/1.4 at f/1.4, about the same at f/2.8 (a bit lower in the center (which is not a meaningful point anyway for both are beyond Nyquist frequency) and a bit better at the edges), data for F2 is missing for Sigma for whatever reason. What is the point of this lens again?
Even lowly Nikon 50/1.8 tested on D3X (not on D800!) matches the 58/1.4 in resolution at f/2...
Alot of 1.8/2 lenses out do faster lenses on the tests.
reginalddwight: Nothing really that imaginative here.
I found better recreations at a recent trip to Legoland.
Nothing really that imaginative here.
I found better criticism at a recent trip to the GX7 review.
mayurgogoi: Odd camera with less features--1st) heavy weight 760g 2nd)only 1/4000sec 3rd)no auto focus assist lamp 4th)no flash built in 5th)no tillable lcd(in this model we should not expect!) 5th)high price
The point of this camera is to emulate the features of a vintage pro SLR. It as full legacy support for older glass (I own a P.C Nikkor first edition!). Anyone who owns old equipment dreams of having the same experience as their film days, with a digital sensor to help in today's photographic world. It is not meant to compete with the D600, D800, 5DIII! It offers a more relaxed experience. It is still a camera for photographers, maybe just not wedding or sports photographers >_>. I'd have one, although the biggest criticisim that I agree with is the price. I want it for 2K, not almost 3!