There used to be only 2 parts of cameramaking which both required great craftsmenship: manufacturing of the housing and - separately - the optics. Today, the largest (and third) part of a camera are electronics - which change so fast, by the time you are finished developing them, they are already outdated. Leica has since the digital age clearly focused on the perfection of the housing, which they do beautifully like no other. But the BEST cameras are built by others. The problem is, who wants to spend this much money on a camera which is already outdated when new, not to mention a few years down the road? Maybe Leica could lead the way and design a camera with partially interchangeable electronic hardware, like the sensor/display/interface parts of the camera (the stuff which gets old fast) while keeping the housing and lens.Because someone should start to do something about the terrible planned obsolescense in the camera industry, and Leica would be a great company to start.
oh, thank you DPR, we hear so much nowadays about what to buy and where to get it, but we never hear anything about how and where to RECYCLE all these old, obsolete cameras which we all have accumulated in our buying frenzies over the years ...can we donate them to the red cross? the salvation army? i mean, maybe poor folks like to take pictures too, sometimes … ? why not look into that for a change, just saying …
and come to think of it, … DESIGNED OBSOLESCENCE … huh, a dirty word - but what an article that would make ...
this is revolutionary, a true milestone in camera technology.i bet in 3 years all cellphone cameras have it. no wonder nokia stock keeps going up ...
What else is new with Leica this year? Pathetic way to get into the news headlines.
JPnyc: Nothing worse than silver painted metal. In the old days, metal color on a camera meant that the part was actually made of the metal you see. Here, it does not. This will still rub off, most visibly off the molded black plastic parts like the pop-up flash and switches.
But a nice way to get MSRP on an otherwise already deeply discounted camera. And that's what it's all about I guess.
My point was the fact that the (real) metal parts are painted over as well. Maybe you haven't noticed it yet, but your camera, while indeed being partially made of metal has silver paint all over so to cover the non-metal parts, which to me seems funny.
Nothing worse than silver painted metal. In the old days, metal color on a camera meant that the part was actually made of the metal you see. Here, it does not. This will still rub off, most visibly off the molded black plastic parts like the pop-up flash and switches.
Great move! Now every owner of a X10 can pretend to have a X100 Black Edition.
daza: now its look identical to my fuji x10
yes, it does.
EduardoJB: This is exactly what happens when a restyling of a car model in imminent. Now with the X-Pro 1, something had to be done to keep selling the X100. Good Luck Fuji. BTW, I own an X100 and an X-10, so this is not a derogatory comment, but it seems to me that it will be harder for Fuji to sell the X100 from now on, and the lack of a 35mm (equivalent) in the three first lenses for the X-Pro seems to be part of the strategy too.
" BTW, I own an X100 and an X-10" >>> LOL !
mdava: Surely 10,000 units is not a *limited* edition in any meaningful sense of the word.
How many X100s have been sold in total so far?
maybe these are the 10,000 units which already came back to be refurbished.
Wow! Another 'black series'? How innovative!
And hey DPR, what's the point of such useful information below this comment as: "Comment edited 5 times, last edit 8 minutes after posting" ? Damn, I just can't catch up with your smart editing software ...
I want a creditcard-sized camera with a full size sensor and a 40x zoom, at a constant 1.2 max. aperture. cheap.Call me again when it's ready (maybe in 50 years?)
Merida2010: Somebody please advise me: if I were going to buy this Fuji model, OR the Canon T3i (which, with a 24-135 lens is just about the same price), which one should I get? Please don't tell me neither, or that both are junk, or that I should look at 25 other models. Just tell me which of these two makes more sense, and why. Thanks to any and all who will give me some advice.
I'm trying to decide between the exact same choices and think the added versatility will offset the lost high ISO IQ. But if it's true that the X-S1 really is bigger than a T3i with a zoom attached to it, I might have second thoughts. On the other hand, I will never be tempted to buy another lens for the superzoom, whereas with a DSLR, the first kit usually is just the beginning and after a while you'll end up with so much gear that you'll start to look again for a more portable option ... aarrggh ... maybe I should just keep my G12!?So there you have it, back to square one here as well. Sorry!:-)
I am as excited as everybody else here about this camera and I KNOW I am knitpicking - but why is it that the X-S1 has 4 different surface textures from what I can see? From a mere aesthetic point of view this could have been done better, as both other X-series models are real beauties. Just saying ...
this is pathetic.
Black nailpolish? DPR - Halloween party going on on the side? ;-)
Anyway, I am VERY disappointed they didn't bring along their long anticipated woodie version. I wanted to see the riot this might have caused!
I like the lens kit for the iPhone, hilarious! Another system to invest in?
JPnyc: I used to own a Leica M4 back in the days when they were actually REALLY amazing. As a matter of fact, I sold my beloved car to buy one, this is how much I wanted it. And it was worth it.
Sadly, today Leica is a pathetic shadow of its former self, a brand for posers and brand whores.
No one rebadges more shamelessly, no one is more stuck in its own past and no one is fuller of themselves than Leica.
Ernst Leitz would turn around in his grave, if he could see his company today.No more innovation, no more avant garde, just a brand trying to play catch up with the competition and copying itself over and over again at the same time. Yes, the design is nice, but that's about the only thing they didn't have to change for the last 20 years.
Erhardt, no one will take your spot, and you know why? Because YOU take your own spot, you ARE standing still.
And no, I don't hate german products, quite the opposite - I am german. I just feel this demise of a once great brand is a real shame.
Leica has always made high quality lenses - and still does, I agree. And of course one must acknowledge this industry changed completely in the last 20 years. Camera manufacturers went from being manufacturers of lasting mechanical products, almost high end craftsmen, to mass producers of electronics.A camera used to have a lifespan of many years, my first camera came from my dad and I was thrilled! Today, this is unimaginable. Cameras have become 'consumer products', made to be 'consumed'. Who has a 5 year old digital camera? Leica should have come up with a way to thoughtfully digitize their cameras without compromising, outsourcing and badge engineering. If anyone is expensive enough to do it, then it's them.
The sensitive way to go about this would be to engineer upgradeable electronic modules (display unit, sensor unit, chip unit) and separate these from the housing, switches, viewfinder and other pricey but more constant components (like they already do the lenses).
JPnyc: I was there as well and had some hands-on time with the new EOS-1D X.While I am certain it's technically as advanced as it can be, I don't think this camera has seen the hands of any product designer. It really is as ugly as it gets. The handle, which runs around the side and bottom almost looks like the work of a pizza-dow-handler and the back has its buttons scattered - no, make that splattered - all over the place with no visual connection whatsoever. Plus, I almost dropped the beast when someone passed it on to me - this baby is as heavy as a ... newborn rhino! (yeah, I had to think of that for a sec :)
Alright, I stand corrected as I see your points. Didn't think of it this way when I touched the beast, but what you all say makes sense. And yes, pizza dough.
I attended a presentation of this 1 series at the PhotoPlus Expo and it was HUGE, easily took over one third of Nikon's entire stand!There were 3 hot, stylish models posing at all times and tons of elderly men gawking at them, pretending to check out the series. It was pathetic. On a prominent display, the cameras were shown in about 27 different colors, some of them included silly external flashes in yet another set of colors.I felt like I was attending a presentation of a new line of Cover Girl lipsticks.