Please advise if this model support wireless flash.
Yep. Works with Panasonic DMW-FL360L real well. You can control the level of flash exposure from your camera menu.
Russell Evans: I setup the camerasize.com webpage with the GM1 and Sony Nex-3n on it and asked my wife which one she would like. She indicated the GM1 and said, "of coarse that one, as it has that old camera look". I then told her the GM1 is US $750 and the other is US $450. She then said the looks weren't $300 more important. I asked her about size and she replied she is happy with the 5n with the Sony 16-50mm she has now, and the little bit smaller camera isn't really enough smaller to interest her.
I have to admit I like the looks of the GM1, but even with my small hands, really small for a guy, I find the 5n too small and have to have a half case on it to have it be somewhat comfortable for me. My wife likes it without the case, of coarse. I also looked to find photos of the 3n with a half case on it, and that look is almost as attractive as the GM1 to me.
Crazy, after all that, I still would like to buy my wife the GM1. I might not be stylish, but my wife is still pretty hip and happening.
> my sore shoulder wins out over my cramped hands when walking around with non-serious photography….
Non-conspicuous cameras are important tools for street photographers and photojournalists. I wouldn't call their work non-serious.
duartix: I'd say that by the count of dpreview staff that came out justifying the review and the score, they're both mortally wounded.
@Richard > The very nature of a Silver award is that it means the camera is really good…
Richard, I'm sure you have learned by now that Silver is not a good word to use here. It could be insulting even. I like this scale better: Good, Really Good, Really Really Good.
In wine, the difference between 89 points vs 90 point translates into a ton of money.
nevada5: Gold or silver, tin or cow patty - why would this matter? I've never walked around with my camera, feeling better that a reviewer called it gold.
I've had my GX7 for about 5 weeks and it continues to please me more each time I use it. The level of customization available is fantastic, ergonomics and build quality are top-drawer, EVF and IQ are on a par with my NEX-6. The icing on the cake is that the menus make sense to me.
The review seems to be a fair one. (But I must have the only GX7 ever made that consistently UNDER-exposes. Hmmmm)
I suspect anyone who prefers a rangefinder-style camera will find little to fault with the GX7.
> *obliged* grrrr…
Thanks. That's what I meant to say, but I can't go back and edit anymore.
kecajkerugo: Yet another good camera on the market...why do you all still fight?Do not like lit go to Oly. Want to carry tank-like gun FF machine for that 10% better picture, your choice. Do you like Fuji menu over that one? Your preference.It is reasonable to discuss camera's features, differences but naming such cameras "crap" in pure nonsense! The best and very the best hardware from each known company on the market is just at least adequate to take great pictures.
> Do you think a full-frame Nikon is just 10% better picture than a m4/3? Do you have any actual evidence of this (I'm being serious)?
Haha, you took the flame bait. Without specifying the scale, how can you argue what 10% means?
On the other hand, if you don't print more than 13x19, and don't shoot in the dark, 10% probably is a generous estimate.
The point system is inherently unfair no matter how you look at it, because different people value different things. If I don't care about video, then it is unfair (to me) for a camera to score higher because of better video when all other factors being equal.
If you are too lazy to look at the bars or read the article, then you will likely draw the wrong conclusion based on the points alone.
Vinc T: Comparing to the 1.5 year old E-M5, this GX7 has nothing really extraordinary. The only special thing about it is its tilting EVF, which is meaningful to only the minority. Why should DPR award a GOLD to something just caught up with its competitor?
Also, EM5 does not have a built-in flash, and has that fake penta-prism hump that always gets in the way. It is also widely accepted that Panasonic cameras have a better menu system based on what I read here.
> Gold or silver, tin or cow patty - why would this matter?
Oh, but it matters a lot. First, we have insecurity issues. It's not enough for us to like the cameras we own, we need others to say they love our cameras also. Second, we are brand nationalists. If someone does not like the camera that we like, we feel deeply offended and we feel obligated to defend its honor.
mpgxsvcd: Looks like the Canon 70D lags behind even the tiny GM1 in high ISO image quality.
To play devil's advocate, I don't think the Canon guys are just a bunch of clueless engineers sitting around drinking sake all day. My guess is that either the company decided the current IQ is good enough, or they think that the general public just does not care enough like the folks here do.
Will Gerrits: In 2013 when everything electronic is minimizing , compare cellphones in 2005 and now, in the department handling there should be more focus on size. In that aspect this Canon is big, very big. Moreover if you consider the enthusiast photographer is not carrying just a single (zoom)lens but a few lenses : the size and the weight you have to carry around for a longer time is a problem that's not taking into account in this review. Please DPReview addept your reviewing aspects to 2013 -2020 standards and don't stay in the low 2000's
> Please explain why small is always better.
You are putting words in people's mouth. Nobody said small is ALWAYS better. In fact, what Will said was too big and too heavy is not good, and size should be considered. That's not the same as saying small is always better.
AbrasiveReducer: I'm sure this is an excellent camera but it doesn't seem to really excel in anything except maybe AF. That's fine, but if this gets the gold, what would a real breakthrough camera get? (This is not a "fan" issue; I own Elphs, Rebels, G1X, EOS-M and 5D3.)
Even if it produces results nearly identical to the D7100--and I'm sure it does, to everyone except Nikon fans--that just means both are above average.
> I'm sure this is an excellent camera but it doesn't seem to really excel in anything except maybe AF. That's fine, but if this gets the gold, what would a real breakthrough camera get?
A camera can have a breakthrough technology and still be unusable due to many reasons. Look at Blackmagic, breakthrough IQ, but battery only lasts 30 min, among other problems.
SDPharm: Panasonic's naming scheme is getting confusing again. You may think this is crazy, but this camera really should be called GM7 in keeping with the current generation of G, GF and GX series camera. They skipped GX2 to GX6, why not skipping GM1 to GM6?
I guess I didn't stress the "you may think this is crazy" part enough. Don't worry, I'm sane enough not to lose sleep over GM1.
I did a little, though, over the silly name OM-D EM-5. Completely unnecessary. A simple M5 is sufficient. What's even worse is the EM-1. It's newer, yet has a lower numeric designation. This goes counter to their convention of higher number for newer models.
Sean Nelson: Yup, Panasonic again makes the mistake of thinking that a small camera has to be a dumb camera. I see a dearth of controls and crippled video. The Sony RX100 and RX100M2 showed that people are willing to pay good money for a compact camera that's designed for enthusiasts, not point-and-shooters. When will Panasonic get the message?
What makes it a dumb camera? It may not have many buttons due to its small size, I suspect many controls are done via the touch screen. If past experience is any indication, Panasonic's touch screen interface is highly functional.
The Panasonic press release says it "offers a choice of full manual control."
Panasonic's naming scheme is getting confusing again. You may think this is crazy, but this camera really should be called GM7 in keeping with the current generation of G, GF and GX series camera. They skipped GX2 to GX6, why not skipping GM1 to GM6?
> There's no doubt that a camera like the GM1 isn't for everyone, but we don't want to sound negative.
Uh, you just did.
We already know it's small, so complaining it's too small, to me, is not a very productive comment.
This camera would be great to pair with one of the several pancake lenses. A high quality small, quiet, fast camera like this would be a very potent street photography tool.
Jake64: How does one even begin to make sense of any of that ?! P.S. If you turn the camera around to the left you will see a nice "Canada" sticker along with a maple leaf ;)
> How does one even begin to make sense of any of that ?!
Yeah, it looks almost as complicated as some of the cameras these days. Here's an example of only a portion of the Panasonic GH3 menus:
DaveCS: Maybe it's me but the title of the DPReview post:NYT offers a look 'hometown' across the U.S. through the eyes of teens
Makes absolutely no sense. It needs, at the very least, an "at" nestled in there between "look" and " 'hometown' ". Sorry but while the photos are great title read not well when missing word thing (catch the drift?).
> You can "look there" and understand, without being told "look at there" or "look over there."
Although English is not my first language, I don't think that's right. You can 'look here and there' but you have to 'look at this' not 'look this'. Sure you can understand it, but it does not make it right.
matt carson: I am a bit confused by the wording of the offer. I don't like renting software, but could probably live with $10/month, but are we getting rental access to PS CC's latest version AND Lightroom's latest version forever. The wording above is "That price will never change, as long as you sign up before the end of this year." So I suppose I am wondering in two years will I have LR7 and the most up to date PS CC or will I have LR5 or will LR5 no longer be supported and I will have LR7 but my cost will be $20/month. Will PS CC change its name to PS CC2 in a year and again my "subscription" be void cause it applied only to PS CC1? I think I could justify $120/year forever if I had the most up to date software forever, but is this the case. Also people are mentioning an inability to edit photos the did on PS CC if they stop paying, I am confused by that, can't you just save them as Tiff or jpg and edit them with other software if you decide to cancel PS CC? Thanks
> That price will never change, as long as you sign up before the end of this year. <
This is DPReview's spin. I don't see Adobe saying that.
In Adobe's FAQ, it says:
" Customers who sign up by December 31, 2013 will be able to continue their membership. This price is not a special introductory price for your first year only; it is the standard price for this level of membership. But if you cancel your membership in the future, you will not be able to re-join at this special price."
Adobe did not say the price will NEVER increase. There are other ways they can increase your pricing. They can start a new program and stop supporting the old versions. Or, they can start a new cheaper program and lure you to switch, then increase the price of that program.
Don't take me wrong, I'm not saying it's not a good deal at this price. I'm just saying, do not expect the price to stay this way forever.
HawaiiVolcanoes: ohh STOP...the images are HORRRRRRIBLE. Anyone that thinks that these images can compete with (anything) is simply fooling themselves. DPREVIEW...this is a new low for you.
> DPREVIEW...this is a new low for you.
Uh, DPReview did not manufacture the equipment. It's an equipment reporting site. And it did its job letting you know the quality, good or bad, of the equipment. Why the hostility?
Ian: From all of reading I've done, the AA filter removal (either none at all or cancelling it out like Nikon) has turned out to be a lot of hype, at least for stills. The gains are quite minimal and only appear with the best lenses at a tiny aperture range (usually around f/5.6).
For video, it's probably more meaningful, but unless you use perfect technique (i.e. solid tripod, mirror lockup, cable release) and focus stack multiple f/5.6 exposures, I don't think you gain a whole lot.
Personally, I was hoping the hype was real, but it seems that more can be done by optimizing the AA filter (Canon 5D Mark II vs. III) than eliminating it or cancelling it out. This is an intriguing patent, however.
I feel the same way too. There are too many real world factors that are much more significant than the AA filter. The effects of AA filter is pretty much academic and marketing.
These talks on AA filter simply serve to distract people from focusing on other important but hard to quantify factors in a modern day camera, such as ergonomics and user interface.