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"Improvement of image quality when using a wide angle lens"????
So easy to say...
thisisjh: So... the lesson here is... conventional contrast AF including DMC-G5 is better than hybrid AF?
So what is the hybrid AF for?
Ok.. I am watching the video again. So, phase detection alone is better. What would be the benefit of using Hybrid system.... For video?
thisisjh: So... the lesson here is... conventional contrast AF including DMC-G5 is better than hybrid AF?
So what is the hybrid AF for?
But it looks like it is not even close to the well-designed contrast AF system. Therefore, it may be still worse than non-well-designed contrast AF. Also, why Canon even bother to implement this slow system? Can you turn this hybrid thing off? If you can, is contrast AF alone going to be faster? If it is, why have hybrid in the first place?
So... the lesson here is... conventional contrast AF including DMC-G5 is better than hybrid AF?
So what is the hybrid AF for?
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=4025122
It says...
The camera need to withstand solar radiation- the cameras we flew (and are still onboard) the space station crapped out after about 2 years- ionizing radiation causes 'latching', resulting in the steady accumulation of hot pixels.
I couldn't find clear evidence of who made the CCDs, possibly Kodak. In any case, it's most likely a rad-hardened CCD chip, which is also why it's not a (high end) consumer grade chip.
webrunner5: Canon has had almost over 2 years to look at the other players in this group. People act like Canon is just stupid. They are not the 800 pound Gorrila in cameras for nothing.
They will be the top dog in mirrorless in the long run like it or not. This is their first effort, but trust me they have a long term plan, and it is to be #1.
They wil set the standard.
I am sure they do have a promising long-term plan. But this particular camera whether this is their first mirroless or not failed.
micahmedia: WOW! What a slug! Watch for the autofocus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa_9kNAMcIw#t=02m00s
Really, I'm not enjoying bashing this camera. Indeed, I wish it were smashingly good, which is only good for competition. What were Canon thinking?
"35% fewer buttons"? Whether you think that's good or not, that someone from marketing put that figure out in the world to discuss says some things about how disconnected from the market and actual photography the people who made this camera were.
It is slow because it is in video mode. That is typical/normal.
However, this camera leaks many features that all other same class mirrorless cameras have or already introduced years back. Not worth the money. Canon failed... whether this is intentional or not..
Damo83: Let's hit 1000 wonderful comments.
@Cax
Not all new models or cameras get negative comments.
thisisjh: I have a feeling that Sony will sell more NEX-7 now...
I agree with that also
marike6: In the Nikon 1 review, DPR was heavily critical of the lack of external controls. In this EOS-M Preview, the same lack of external buttons is described more as a feature, not a bug because of the "target audience" caveat. Clearly a GF3 is not as nice to use as a GF1 because of the touch screen, yet it's implied in this EOS-M preview that the touch screen can replace mode dials and ISO buttons. Why is it not OK for the Nikon 1 to remove external controls (Nikon was very clear about the target audience for the Nikon 1) yet perfectly fine for the EOS-M?
Maybe DPR just likes Canon better...? or has a weak review protocols.
I have a feeling that Sony will sell more NEX-7 now...
UnChatNoir: This is a 650D with an Ixus interface. A Mercedes with a toy-steering wheel and plastic pedals.
Of course Canon is afraid to kill their serious DSLR sales. Just like Nikon is. They won't create a second track that people might consider over the DSLR's until one day everybody will do.
But the most glorious days of mirrors in camera's are being counted now. What it is missing on the EOS-M: true controls (iPhone-alike touch-screens are for gadget-freaks and P&S'ers, make true photographers only nervous), a serious EVF and preferably OVF (even the G-series has one). Oh, yes, than it's almost a DSLR. True.
And for those that complained over the Fuji-X lens offerings: where is Canon? Or are we - beside what is announced for the EOS-M - expected to screw mega-size DSLR-lenses into a fist-fitting camera?
For me it's a no brainer. No Canon.
Maybe I am spoiled with the high res EVF in my NEX-7. But even with the high res LCD on my NEX-7, I often have trouble to make perfect focusing where I want with especially very shallow DOF shots. I am pretty young and have 20/20 vision. I guess you are lucky to have such ability. Good for you...
UnChatNoir: This is a 650D with an Ixus interface. A Mercedes with a toy-steering wheel and plastic pedals.
Of course Canon is afraid to kill their serious DSLR sales. Just like Nikon is. They won't create a second track that people might consider over the DSLR's until one day everybody will do.
But the most glorious days of mirrors in camera's are being counted now. What it is missing on the EOS-M: true controls (iPhone-alike touch-screens are for gadget-freaks and P&S'ers, make true photographers only nervous), a serious EVF and preferably OVF (even the G-series has one). Oh, yes, than it's almost a DSLR. True.
And for those that complained over the Fuji-X lens offerings: where is Canon? Or are we - beside what is announced for the EOS-M - expected to screw mega-size DSLR-lenses into a fist-fitting camera?
For me it's a no brainer. No Canon.
Do you use manual lens? or do you use manual focusing with some precision?
UnChatNoir: This is a 650D with an Ixus interface. A Mercedes with a toy-steering wheel and plastic pedals.
Of course Canon is afraid to kill their serious DSLR sales. Just like Nikon is. They won't create a second track that people might consider over the DSLR's until one day everybody will do.
But the most glorious days of mirrors in camera's are being counted now. What it is missing on the EOS-M: true controls (iPhone-alike touch-screens are for gadget-freaks and P&S'ers, make true photographers only nervous), a serious EVF and preferably OVF (even the G-series has one). Oh, yes, than it's almost a DSLR. True.
And for those that complained over the Fuji-X lens offerings: where is Canon? Or are we - beside what is announced for the EOS-M - expected to screw mega-size DSLR-lenses into a fist-fitting camera?
For me it's a no brainer. No Canon.
@howardroark
You will have zero issues without the EVF or OVF? Really?
AD in KC: This looks fantastic!
I love the ring around the shutter button, the hotshoe, the new mount, the big sensor, the filter threads on the lens, the adapter for EF lenses. Even the look of it is awesome. It's like the best of Sony's NEX-5 WITH Canon lenses! Sure a viewfinder would be nice, but it's more compact without, so all is good.
I don't know why people will bitch and moan about every new everything. I mean I was not happy the G-X (or whatever it is) didn't accept filters, because in my mind, I don't want to always have to fool with a damned lens cap - so I didn't buy one!
This camera is clearly lacking many features that other mirrorless cameras are already offering with less price. So... it is ok to bitch about it.. I guess..
I need a viewfinder (either in-camera or optional) and at least a programmable thumb dial. I currently own NEX-7.
thisisjh: I need viewfinder viewfinder viewfinder....
You must have viewfinders for outdoor/bright condition unless canon offers a "brighter" LCD screen and some kind of loupe that goes with it. Manual focusing typically with manual lenses in bright conditions will also require viewfinders (good quality ones) especially if you want a precise control.
If you don't care about these, then LCD will be perfect for you.. You will be happier with especially the high res LCD that canon is offering for this model.
I need viewfinder viewfinder viewfinder....