Timmbits

Timmbits

Lives in Canada Montreal, Canada
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Joined on Oct 8, 2011
About me:

Deutscher, living in Montreal Canada.
Cycling, chess, design, inventions, nature, photography, are some of the things I like.

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On Roundup: Enthusiast Zoom Compact Cameras article (420 comments in total)

Looking forward to the day, when this category, will have a roundup of compact cameras that all have larger sensors, like today's RX100. When more cameras have larger sensors, the test and comparison results will be much more interesting.
Reading all the comments, I feel that we are having to choose between the sensor we want, versus the lens characteristics we want, all debating which is better. With the competition catching up, we won't be stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Direct link | Posted on Dec 21, 2012 at 09:33 UTC as 80th comment | 2 replies
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Timmbits: I'm really skeptical at their "conclusions". They seem to have simply "forgotten" that the Samsung has a f1.4 lens, like the LX7. Both of these should have rated better than the S110, and the Samsung been a better alternative to wifi which the canon has.
Also, I find that DPR is confusing EXR mode with Night mode. EXR isn't just "night". A subtle "mistake" to slam the manufacturer and favor another? Either this is going on, or the reviewers aren't paying attention. Pick one. Neither bodes well for an eroding reputation.

They actually talk about it on this very website. 2 of the EXR modes are 6mp, one of the EXR modes is 12MP. But the way it was written in the conclusion of this roundup, suggests (to those who didn't weed through the original X10 review - which is most of us), that EXR does _only_ 6MP. Just seems a little biased.

Direct link | Posted on Dec 21, 2012 at 09:20 UTC
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Lanski: Excellent - really enjoyed reading this. I'm choosing between the RX100 and the LX7. I primarily want the camera for underwater use (yes, with a housing...), but I also want a pocketable camera for when I don't want to bring my Canon 7D. With housings (Ikelite), they both end up at a similar price (the LX7 housing is more expensive due to the ergonomics).

Advantages of the RX100:
- Awesome light gathering at the wide angle (it's the wide angle i need underwater)
- 20MP
- Great DR and noise control
- Good AF, I think...
- Truly pocketable for non underwater use
- I've fallen in love with the spec sheet - sorry!

Advantages of LX7:
- Wider wide angle
- Superfast shooting (is this RAW?)
- Camera will be the cheaper part of the underwater setup (useful in case i fail to seal the housing properly.

They both look like great cameras. I'm probably leaning towards the RX100 (could you tell?) but was wondering if anyone had any useful info or opinions to share.

Cheers!

Lab tests are one thing, but what are the challenges that you run into in real life? Yesterday I was filming my little daughter's Christmas show, and a camera I was using was constantly hunting to focus and the pictures came out pretty bad (noisy). When the going gets tough, which of these cameras will deliver? I suspect that sensor size will trump all, as they all have relatively fast lenses in this roundup.

There's also another option you can consider: just spending the extra money on an underwater camera. That's what I did, for a Pana TS3 (although, when not shooting underwater, I'm not impressed with DPR's award winning underwater camera).

Direct link | Posted on Dec 21, 2012 at 08:50 UTC
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@DPR: you're welcome for the idea of the aperture graph! ;-)

Direct link | Posted on Dec 21, 2012 at 04:20 UTC as 81st comment | 1 reply

The big question is:
is a 3"-4" screen large enough to have a photoshop clone app, to do all your post processing work directly on the camera, instead of on a computer?

Otherwise, I really don't see the pertinence of giving yourself all the hassles of an OS with apps, updates, spyware, OS bugs, crashes, etc. We just want to bloody take pictures already, and good ones at that!

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 23:41 UTC as 15th comment | 2 replies
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justmeMN: Is there room in the marketplace for a Poloroid brand mirrorless camera? I don't think so.

I don't know who owns the brand now... but it is clear that the chinese, now that many companies have trained them to make cameras for them through technology transfer, now probably want to bite the hand that feeds them by introducing their own brands... what better way than to do it under an iconic name known for innovation (patents).

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 23:37 UTC
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Bill Bentley: Anybody here who doesn't understand what the benefits of an Android based camera firmware could bring needs to visit the following two web sites.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php

This an entire community based around firmware enhancements for Android based cell phones.

http://www.magiclantern.fm/

This an entire community based around firmware enhancements for certain Canon cameras.

Now imagine those two sites merged and open source firmware development happening for ANY brand of Android based camera. I'm running Magic Lantern on my T3i and it's brilliant.

I think you've got your camera confused with your computer.
What does android and apps have to do with good photography and a good capable camera?

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 23:31 UTC
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AngryCorgi: Polaroid Game Plan:

*Take Nikon J1
*Insert higher MP sensor
*Rebadge Nikon 10-30 lens
*Swap in cheap touch screen
*Add sketchy cell phone OS
*Announce product as revolutionary
*Have Sakar build the product for cheap
*18 months later, announce Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

@alanbrown: no he's just angry. (see alias) lol ;-)

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 23:28 UTC
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ssh33: Android OS, nice.
Hacks are popular - they can unlock previously unavailable resources and add functionality: magic lantern (Canon), personal-view.com (Panasonic), etc.

Android is great not because you can use the existing apps, it's the possibility to develop new ones FOR THE CAMERA.

"capable"? LOL
that's like giving a camera digital zoom, because it doesn't have optical zoom, and then saying it can do optical zoom. rubbish!

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 23:11 UTC
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Najinsky: Android, yay.

This App requires access to the following:

Storage - modify/delete SD card contents
Network Communication – full internet access
System tools – Prevent camera from sleeping
System tools – Modify global system settings
System tools – Write Access Point name settings
System tools – automatically start at boot
Hardware controls – take pictures

Just what every photographer want's to see when they 'boot' their camera.

Or how about:

- An update is available, would you like to install now or take pictures?
- Google is down, can your subject wait?
- Your google account is locked, camera is shutting down.
- Your google credit is running low, top-up today and receive a 10% discount
- Location server indicates photos not permitted in this location, camera is shutting down.
- Using a slow 2GB class 4 card? Promotion today only 4GB class 6 only $5.
- When you're done taking pictures why not print on HP premium glossy, only $0.99 for 20 sheets while stocks last.

Android, yay.

You read my ming, Nakinsky!

Exactly WHY would I want an android OS in my camera?

People have experienced windows hell, and now they want it in a different flavor on their cameras? Total insanity!

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 23:09 UTC
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fatdeeman: I don't know how good the camera will be but the Android OS gives the potential for enormous flexibility and all sorts of interesting features.

I couldn't work out at first if it was a Nikon 1 relative or just happened to look like it but even the lens internals look the same, if you look at a head on picture of the Nikon lens the inside looks identical and you can see both lenses have a bayonet for a lens hood that look the same too so I think there's definitely a connection between the two cameras.

It could be a fun tool for experimenting with C mount (and some D mount) lenses that won't give full coverage on m43 as long as the camera has decent magnified live view and peaking for focusing. In theory the video quality could be hacked far beyond standard settings.

I will never complain about there being more interchangeable lens cameras on the market, if the fickle public start ditching needlessly small compacts for cameras like this it can only be a good thing for us all.

@Thomas22: that is like saying that every manufacturer on here that is offering a 18-55mm zoom lens for their aps-c cameras all use the same technology?

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 23:06 UTC
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Sam Carriere: There's a good rule in journalism that says acronyms should never be used on first reference. Mind telling us what CES stands for?

CES... You're joking, right?

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 23:02 UTC
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iluvmyd800: I recently bought the Nikon 7700, and have been very pleased with how it generally performs, except in low light. But, I did not buy it for that; I bought it for an upcoming trip to Brasil and I am not keen to take my big DSLR and some lenses lest they get stolen! The range on this little camera is remarkable, and it takes brilliant photos in good light. I could not be more pleased. There is a lot of buzz about the Sony RX-100, but I found it to be too small, that it's optical zoom is limited, and that it is slippery in the hand and too expensive for what I wanted. I managed to find my little Nikon for $C450 with tax.

have you tried it yet on it's night mode setting? my P7000 was remarkable, compared to others with the same sensor size.

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 02:31 UTC
On Dpreview Users' Poll: Best Camera of 2012? article (1514 comments in total)

heyyyy... they don't have my NX20 on there! ;-p
(I voted RX1, so nice!)

but honestly, I really didn't know how to vote, because there are many cameras from different categories...

it's like this should have been called "vote for your favorite category" instead of favorite camera!

think of it.... some of these cameras most can't even afford...
I'm ready to presume that a $50,000 camera is probably better than a $5000 one... but what's the point? It's more like: "duh"

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 02:25 UTC as 662nd comment
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Timmbits: I'm really skeptical at their "conclusions". They seem to have simply "forgotten" that the Samsung has a f1.4 lens, like the LX7. Both of these should have rated better than the S110, and the Samsung been a better alternative to wifi which the canon has.
Also, I find that DPR is confusing EXR mode with Night mode. EXR isn't just "night". A subtle "mistake" to slam the manufacturer and favor another? Either this is going on, or the reviewers aren't paying attention. Pick one. Neither bodes well for an eroding reputation.

People don't come here to be told that a camera is better because of the size - that is the one parameter even a blind person can figure out for themselves. We come here to have the rest, more technical stuff, presented. That being said, good thing you're there to clarify some stuff.
In the DPR's specs sheet section on the XF1, I don't see it mentioned that EXR mode halves resolution. For the life of me, I can't find it anywhere - not on their website, specs, features, not even in the user manual. You'd think this is an important detail that people would want to know.
Thanks for your good nature and for the clarifications.
Might you be able to share with us, where Fuji mentions this very important detail?

Direct link | Posted on Dec 20, 2012 at 00:21 UTC
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Wolffy: I am sure all of these cameras can and will take great quality images but 1 thing I must have is a viewfinder. That leaves only the Canon and the Fuji x10
If no viewfinder then an articulated LCD would be nice Nikon and Samsung
ever tried using one of these LCD screen only cameras out in the sun?
your better off with your cell phone

ROTFL - ever tried using your cellphone inthe sun? ;-p

Direct link | Posted on Dec 19, 2012 at 23:41 UTC
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schaki: Nice test, but really, why is not Ricoh GR Digital IV included? fixed focal length or not, it belongs to this group of capable compact cameras.
Hoping to get a good explanation from Dpreview staff and not some 'it is too old' or similar answer, as it still is an actual camera model from Ricoh in the waiting of the GRDV which should be announced in the first half of 2013.

we need a "DISLIKE" button.

Direct link | Posted on Dec 19, 2012 at 23:36 UTC
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ddtwenty: My only one complaint to panasonic is that...
Please please do the next lx serie with the same 24 mm. Wide and put bigger sensor on them. Imagine if lx7 has larger sensor that can perfome better on high iso ... I think sony rx100 will hardly makes such phenomenon in this year.
And I think it dose not matter if pricing will go up high just like sony's.

@Majik... now doesn't the RX100 perturb that statement! ;-)

Direct link | Posted on Dec 19, 2012 at 20:58 UTC
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flangad: One question:

Most of those cameras are little bit "big" for a compact camera.
For a only slightly bigger package, you can get Panasonic GX1+14-42X pancake zoom or Sony NEX6 + 16-50PZ pancake zoom.
This give much larger sensors, but you loose wide apertune.... so, what is the best?

Do those "large sensor with extreme compacted zoom lenses" really bring better image quality than the compacts cameas of this review or not?

1. @Marty: are you kidding us? pentaxQ has a TINY sensor, how could you even consider it in this comparison? especially with a RX100!!!
2. the RX100 has the same size sensor as the Nikon-1.
3. if you're going to go as large as 4/3, why not get something way better, an APS-C, for about the same size (for example, an NX210, NX1000).
MFT won't compete with APS-C in the long run with lens and housing systems getting more compact, but it does have a future competing favorably with the new 1" generation.

Direct link | Posted on Dec 19, 2012 at 20:53 UTC
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KonstantinosK: I'm seriously thinking about buying a good, small camera. I'm looking for the best possible image quality in the smallest possible package. When money is no object, I feel that the answer to the previous equation can only be the RX100. When the price matters, I think the LX7 has the edge. The smallest m4/3 with the smallest possible lens is not enough pocketable for me.

The Q has a tiny sensor! Don't expect too much from it. More like a toy interchangeable lens camera. If you're on a photography site like this, it is because you are a little more discriminating than what is offered in the cheap 1/2.3" sensor sizes.

Direct link | Posted on Dec 19, 2012 at 20:43 UTC
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