DStudio: It's frustrating to read most of the comments here, trying to compare this ALPA technical camera to others which are nothing like it.
Perhaps it's largely Phase One's fault, for not making this distinction in their press release. Perhaps they're assuming the target audience will already understand this, but in fact many of them don't. In fact, even in their certification training they fail to explain it very well. This is too bad, because the people who buy one understand its virtues. They aren't buying one as a "status symbol."
I guess it's the equivalent of tilt shift in DSLR photography.
Can you explain the difference? Specifically between the Pentax 645Z and the 50MP back, here. Obviously one has a mirror box. I am not being difficult, I honestly don't know.
The Pentax lenses are supposed to be pretty good. Do these lenses offerer anything special? Are they like the high end Zeiss lenses or something?
I know that some fashion photographers prefer CCD, so that's why I asked about the 50MP one.
qwertyasdf: Voted...The Best High-end Compact Camera of 2014, which I've never owned or used.
I was just being a conspiracy theorist. I still maintain that this is not the best way of determining the best camera of 2014, though. A mix of aggregated online reviews and user reviews would probably be a better measure, but that wouldn't get any user participation. Most people haven't used all of these cameras so they will base their decision on online reviews (dpreview in particular as they are on the site anyway). So this is not really our opinion - it is your opinion, recycled.
Data, in this case, is useless if it is influenced by reading reviews instead of actually handling and using the products. This is just a popularity contest.
DPReview could theoretically give the highest review to the camera that has the highest margin for Amazon. They award that camera "camera of the year", Amazon will see a significant uptick in sales on the higher margin camera. I don't think that is happening, but a review site owned by a retailer is not a good situation.
LBJ2: Tamron 150-600. I use the Amount version with the Sony A77II camera. Who could have imagined birding at 600mm FL( or 900mm FL, Sony 1.5 crop) for just over $2K for both camera and super tele !
I agree wholeheartedly. The Tamron and Sigma are revolutionary lenses. I guess that leaves me the 50mm sigma f/1.4, but it wouldn't get my vote if the list was complete.
What if they drop my 70-200mm and the alignment goes out or it grinds while focussing. There is no way to prove that unless it comes back with a big dent. No insurance company is going to believe that or give me any money for it. What about sand or dust inside the lens? At the end of the day I have made $100 and lost $400 to get everything fixed.
This may take off, but I can't really see it. Airbnb is great way for people to avoid getting city licenses and inspections (or just to make some beer money from the couch in your overpriced, city centre apartment). I can't see enough of niche for this service to exist in. If you can afford to spend $2000 on a lens I just can't imagine feeling the need to rent it out for peanuts.
Photoman: Could Google Street View take a better photo?
AbrasiveReducer: I think this is the guy who shoots Fuji 617 and makes giant prints. It's very well done, and instead of making a fuss over how much somebody paid for it, people should try to figure out why. The reproducible nature of photographs has always driven down prices, so the marketing involved in getting a huge amount of money for a photo (from a living person, no less) should be of real interest.
Woah! I don't remember his original being so red! That place is all about the amazing shades of orange. He just went off the deep end!
Paul Amyes: I think that people are getting confused. The high price of the work does not denote any particular artistic quality. What it does show that there are people out there who have deep pockets and are prepared to spend up big to buy something they like.
So all I can say to Peter Lik is "Good on yer mate! Hope you sunk a couple of collides to celebrate."
It probably wasn't a person who bought it. It imagine that it was an investor who believes that it will be worth more in 20 years than it is now. I kind of hope that it depreciates, but these things usually snowball until you get $100mil for a Warhol that was actually painted by one of his assistants.
I have nothing against photographs selling for $6.5mil. In fact, I don't have a problem with Rhein II going for a lot of money. Rhein II is actually pretty fascinating to look at despite the lack of features.
This photograph, however, is nothing special in any way. The dust doesn't just fly around in those canyons, he probably has two assistants throwing it. The composition kinda sucks, it looks better in color (I saw it in his gallery), and it could have easily be photoshopped with a little dodge and burn. I don't even like the toning of the black and white. If you don't know where this is, look up "upper antelope canyon" on flickr to see 1000 better pictures of it.
Of course I would like to sell images for this much, but there are better and more unique pictures posted for dpreview challenges every day. It only goes to show that your name is worth more than your talent. All you need is a gallery in a trashy Las Vegas mall.
zsedcft: Camranger is a waste of money. If you have a nikon a canon you can just pick up the plink wr-3040 for $30 on amazon, flash the modded version of open wrt, download DSLR dashboard, and you get most of the functionality for 1/10th of the price.
I like the idea of this products, but the difficulties that trigger trap have been having with their "Ada" sensors makes me think that this is going to be very difficult to achieve by a 1-man-in-his-shed kind of operation. I also have more confidence in the build quality and support from trigger trap. I hope he does pull it off though, more competition is always a good thing. I'll see how my set of Ada sensors work when they finally arrive!
I would use triggertrap for the sensor as I am pretty confident that they will be far superior. if I can get jpegs to output to my tablet over wifi while the triggertrap triggers the shutter, I will be happy. Being able to change the trigger settings over wifi would only be of marginal benefit to me.
Charlieangel: Are there any advantages to DLSR now, aside from the through-the-lens optical viewfinder?
I thought you were backing up his assertion that there was no point in having a DSLR anymore. I was just saying that that wasn't true. They are becoming more niche, but they still have a number of advantages for a particular kind of photographer. Currently, if you do photography for money, i think you still need a DSLR. Mirrorless has probably become the better option for most other people, though.
I know for sure that the d810 and 5d3 have two card slots for redundancy. I presume that the D750 and DF so as well. The D810 also share its AF system with the D4. Those cameras (bar the DF) are probably used by more pros around the world than the 1dx and D4 series.
Anyway, this is pointless debate. The people who need a DSLR already know it, the people who think they need a DSLR will buy one anyway and the people who buy mirrorless will tell everybody else how great it is having a small camera and call everybody with a DSLR stupid. That is how DPreview comments work.
Onteo: Any chance of getting a curved FF sensor? //genuine question
Heard that curved sensor would allow for smaller optics so my dream comes true. A very small travel/trekking camera with a couple of lens, either two zoom or 3/4 primes to cover it all.
It must be a very hard thing to do if it is not yet done.
I believe that Sony showed a prototype this year. Conventional lenses won't work on curved sensors so it would most likely get a new lens mount. It is most likely to appear in one of the rx1 series of cameras.
@Sessility Battery life is important. Apart from the fact that most batteries cost $50, every moment that you spend changing batteries is potential lost earnings for a lot of people. I don't like changing lenses, so having to change batteries is definite negative. You also expose the internal electronics to water/dust every time you open the battery door in the field.
Lenses; massive disadvantage for mirrorless. The only full frame mirrorless camera is Sony and you admitted that their lens lineup is below par. You also have the gap in accessories, too.
Weather sealing - I would be more confident that a D4 would still work after dropping it on a rock in the rainforest than any mirrorless.
AF; we'll have to see how the a7ii stacks up, but AFAIK, no mirrorless has matched a pro DSLR yet.
Also, what mirrorless has 2 card slots?
One day DSLRs will be gone, but I don't understand the people who are so desperate to claim that they are already finished. It's just weird fanboisim
You're kidding, right? I like mirrorless, but there is no escaping the size of the lenses you need for full frame. Ergonomics becomes an issue with heavy lenses. A D4 is easier to handle than a D800, which in turn will be more comfortable than a A7.
You can also go through a whole day of shooting on a D4 battery. Weather sealing is usually better. They are better at withstanding drops or impacts. These are all things that pros want. Customers also won't respect you as much if you go to work on a paid job with a A7r instead of a D800, despite the fact that they have the same sensor. Lens availability and accessory compatibility are also big selling points for Nikon and Cannon DSLRs.
Of all the things that a DSLR offers, I think that the optical viewfinder is the least important. Digital viewfinders are starting to progress beyond what optical can do.
Mirrorless can do 90% of what a DSLR can, but that 10% is vital to a lot of people.
zsedcft: Weird prize. These things must be less than $5000 to manufacture given the price of a 645Z. It's not as if they are giving away $50,000. Once you have got insurance and rent a couple of lenses, you would be up to the price of a full frame DSLR. Oh well.
I imagine that their overall margin per camera is a lot lower the $45000. They need to design, develop, market, deliver, and guarantee the product. I was saying that it would probably cost less than $5000 to physically produce one more unit to give away - which is the cost they would incur by giving it away in a competition. I think the marketing department shot themselves in to foot with this one. It makes Phase One look pretty tight fisted.
Camranger is a waste of money. If you have a nikon a canon you can just pick up the plink wr-3040 for $30 on amazon, flash the modded version of open wrt, download DSLR dashboard, and you get most of the functionality for 1/10th of the price.
Weird prize. These things must be less than $5000 to manufacture given the price of a 645Z. It's not as if they are giving away $50,000. Once you have got insurance and rent a couple of lenses, you would be up to the price of a full frame DSLR. Oh well.