Lassoni: Full frame cameras eh? So when are they going to release a99m2? hmm?
Oh wait, that camera would probably bite some of the A7 series sales, cause the ergonomics and AF is better.
Sony would invest where the money is. That's logical.They are making more money on E-mount. The only people you can really complain to is the A-mount users not spending enough money for Sony to really take notice.
steve ohlhaber: Given that gopro was the top selling camcorder, that means action cams are big. Going from the tiny gopro sensor to 4/3 seems like a massive step - maybe too far. I would love to see an action camera in between, so it can still be fairly small. Something just a little larger than the gopros sensor would go a long way. I like the idea of bigger and better. The interchangeable lens concept is a big deal for action cams. But size is also a big deal. I think this will fit a niche within a niche really, because its an action cam that is really big, that really narrows it down. Its not that cheap and also not waterproof. I love that this segment is expanding.
I really enjoy using my Gopro but one of the problem is battery life. And I'm presuming a bigger sensor is going to use more power and cause more heat.
Wubslin: @Nathan Cowlishaw: The present economic climate is neither the time nor the place for 'Star Trek' style adventurism and fantasy.
We should concentrate on solving the real problems we have with the limited resources available to us.
@Wubslin, Feel free to report all you like as there was no Threat.
from the Oxford Dictionary:
A statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done: members of her family have received death threatsMore example sentencesSynonyms1.1 Law A menace of bodily harm, such as may restrain a person’s freedom of action.
Saying 'I hope' is not a Threat, and legally, when I said 'Willing' Means it's their choice.
Unless your idea of the English language is vastly different to my interpretation.
Personally I think you are wasting the administrators time and they seem already to be rather busy reviewing cameras for us.
Space exploration is important for the whole of humanity. You can think that the money can be better spent on current problems, but it doesn't solve any long term issues like over population.
The Planet has only a finite amount of resource and unless there is a global dictator that decides who can breed and who can't. The population will keep growing.
I wrote this once in another article:Give a man a fish, it feeds him for a day.Teach a man to fish, it feeds him for life.and when there are too many fisherman, find another pond.
Everyone has the right to think what they like. And if you think your tax payer money shouldn't be spent on Space Exploration. I Hope in the distant future, your grandchildren, or their grandchildren are willing to stay behind on this planet when an asteroid hits and we have the ability to leave the planet due to other tax payers.
kryten61: Alternatively , I wonder if Sebastiao Salgado realises his award winning work is shot on a sensor that is not quite state of the art. Maybe if he know he would rush back to all those recent locations and take much better images. :-)I wonder if he cares?
Canon need to improve from a Pixel peeping point of view, or do they? Of course improvement is welcomed but needs perspective.I know many working photographers who have no idea what is being discussed in here, who are oblivious to any of this PP. It doesn't seem to be quite as big an issue to them and or they are more than happy with their gear, lenses , performance etc offered by their systems. And I suppose more importantly so are their Clients.
I wonder if clients will start demanding a Nikon or Sony shooter because of their much better images?????…I think not. :-)
My view is almost any camera can take a master piece even if it's a point and shoot. If the subject is engaging, lighting is very good, Photographer nails focus and composition etc.
But a more capable camera might give you better chance of getting your masterpiece when situations is less than you desire.
Eg, Lighting is not perfect, So you can underexpose to raise shutter speed and recover.
Did not have the exact lens on you at the time. A better sensor might give you better crops.
Nailing eye focus of a moving subject with better accuracy (I'm thinking A7Rii here)
I don't think a worse sensor will stop someone from creating a masterpiece, but a better one could give you a slightly higher probability of achieving one.
Joseph Black: Neat gimmick, but still a gimmick. Only a few people will be silly enough to buy a camera just because of this very limited capability, and after they try it once or twice the novelty will be worn off.The only thing this new "stacked" sensor is good for is pushing the slow, incremental development of digital technology that must occur in order to make any digital device profitable. Anyone who knows anything about computers knows that the cutting edge device makes money for about a day before it becomes a commodity with a razor thin profit margin, prompting improvements with every cycle. One can't fault Sony for pressing forward with tech development, but this ability is laughably useless especially compared to the amazing slow motion captures one can do with a little money....which is the only way slow motion exceeds gimmick status.
Hmm.so the fact that it has awesome eye focus, Great image quality, 4K video, 1/32000 shutter speed, 16fps all, On top of this so call gimmicky slow motion video in a camera that fits in your pocket makes Sony laughable?
Please do tell in your wisdom which camera you think does a better job than this stacked sensor in the same category?
If you think this is slow incremental development for a camera that's only been around a bit more than 3 years. I'd love to see what you think fast is and who is achieving it.
naththo: Unrelated to this topic but my brother bought Powershot SX710 which is Canon and autofocus is awesome, very quick. I noticed my dad's old Cybershot RX1 done very poorly to compare. These were done in low light. Sad to say Sony isn't still as good as Canon usually. Canon sensor not as good as Sony but AF is totally the opposite!
Comparing a full frame CDAF with narrow DOF against a 1/2.3 inch sensor CDAF with large DOF sounds like a weird comparison. Are people just coming up with more extreme things to complain about these days?
Wow, that's seriously impressive.
I'm already expecting all the critics saying 'Mehhh, I've been shooting Manual for 35 years and can focus on the eye faster'
'That's nothing my XXXXX camera is much better, Sony is not a real Camera Company'
Hope they do something different like: using a Sony square curved sensor and having simple, small and good prime lenses. Not that I probably could afford a Hasselblad :)
lacikuss: Can Canikon develop a pro mirrorless system for their 35mm format legacy lenses?
When you get a Sony Alfa 7 Series mirrorless FF camera and via adapter add any Nikon, Canon or whatever legacy lens out there, in essence you're doing is what Canikon can do if the Market is ready. Still I see that for every 1 mirrorless ILC shipped worldwide 4 Dslrs are shipped.
I have plenty of good lenses, I like mirrorrless ILCs, I'd happily buy a Canikon mirrorless camera where I can use my lenses natively (not the N 1 or OES M).
I think one of the problems is that Canikon don't make as much money off people that don't new lenses regularly. Sony might be doing well because people are spending money on a new system, camera and lens (what little they have). But it's still more than people only upgrading their DSLRs once every 4-5 years and keep on using their lens collection they have built up over the years.
Mister Roboto: How about a selfie stick that takes whole body shot? =D
Does a gopro mounted on a 1.8 metre monopod count?
YorkM: In Tokyo Disneyland/Sea have banned to use Selfie Sticks.Please refer the "5 Reasons Why Selfie Sticks Should be Banned at Disney Theme Parks" URL : http://www.themeparktourist.com/features/20150116/29867/5-reasons-why-disney-should-ban-selfie-stick
Also, many sightseeing areas are thinking same restriction in Japan.Last year, I have been in Kyoto for autumn color season and there were very crowded and many time about 10% of guest stopped and take photo by using a selfie sticks. Then, other people could not pass him/her while they took the shot because of passways were very narrow.
Then, the selfie sticks became selfish bar. Therefore, idea of this product is nice but place to use may be limited.
I used my light weight Lumix G6 which has a fully-articulated rear display that time.
I actually think it's the opposite people that are rude. Think of it this way. You get someone to take a photo of you and then someone walks infront of the shot. Who is the Rude one. Now replace that distance with a stick, why does it all of a sudden become the photographer that is rude?
electrophoto: what a load of nonsense.Selfie...
what has it come to for so many?"selfie ergo sum"?
I never understood the need to pose in front of stuff to basically have a photo that is crappy but shows me at place X...I less then not understand the modern selfie at arms length.Crappy photo and an absolute waste of everyone's time. But the social sharing crowd seems to love it.Amongst with heavily discoloured "vintage" style photos of every bit of food the selfie is going to eat and cat pictures.
I think you nailed it with 'I never understood' and 'I less than not understand'.
Different people have different taste and that's a good thing, Some like HDR, some like fisheye. I really wished my grand parents took more photos infront of 'X' place to see what they looked like what were they have been before they past away.
Just because it's not your taste it's not nonsense. You have to remember it's not 'selfies' or nothing. When I go on holidays I still bring a tripod to take nice photos, but I also take selfies or me and my wife in front of place 'X' and I'm sure most people here would also be in the same category as me.
This is awesome news.
I really like the timelapse straight into video, but I hope in future firmware you can take photos straight into superview or defished, or superview and defished.
As I often use a gopro on holidays, the more settings I can do in camera, the less I'd need a computer for the App.
I really like my Theta, but unfortunatly the image quality is not good enough. Might skip this M15, but hopefully the one after will be better. I don't even mind if it's a little bigger or a little more expensive if the IQ was there.
Also for the next version, please make an extender battery monopod with a shutter button :)
Tandua: Sony continues its improvments plan.It will be the leader soon.
I think it's a little naive to say it has 0 to do with Digital Imaging. If it's useful and can sell and make a profit, divisions will cross.
It's almost as good as Canon and Nikon saying. There is no way a Electronic company like Sony and Panasonic could put digital sensors in SLRs.
DaGurney: OH NOES my comment contained SWEAR WORDS.
Píss off, DPReview nannies. I thought this was a site a for grownups.
Real grownups don't need swear words to express themselves.
And I thought this site was for everyone and not just grownups. i'm sure there are plenty of minors reading this site.
Aroart: Fact canon and Nikon are a bit behind in mirrorless .. Fact canon and Nikon will eat any mirrorless up in sports photograhy. Fact canon and Nikon will catch up when there camera sales decline. Fact mirrorless is good enuff now to make em sweat a bit.. Fact mirrorless blows away dslrs in video....fact quality always declines to quik easy fast and cheap..
Fact cnon and Nikon will eat any mirrorless up in sports photography.
I don't know about eat, as it takes a flagship model to beat some of these so called mirrorless.
Someone from another site said it best:
If you are disappointed make sure you give their videos a thumbs down in youtube so their management can truly see how unimpressed ratio is:
I'd love to know if
- The Hero 4 Silver has excatly the same still photo quality as the black without what ever this 'x2 performance' is.
- Is the new Remote included in either and is it the same size as the old one? or even if the old one can be used on the new one.
- Is the new Remote wifi signal strong enough to trigger gopro underwater.
- Can they make a wifi flash? not very useful for most people since they would most likely use video lights :)