RStyga: Let's us dispense with the myth that all "professional" photographers know exactly what they want or what it is required. I have seen a fair share of them not having a clue about what gear to buy, not only because they fail to follow the industry's rapid changes (understandable to a certain a extent) but also because they don't even know basic technological terminology (e.g. what is VC/IS/OIS/IS).
There is a significant difference between a person who makes money out of taking photographs, a photographer (in the artistic sense), and one who knows about photographic technology and application. Neither category implies any of the other.
Actually, it comes from Latin and the word "money" has nothing to do with it.
Adobe? I said goodbye to them a while ago. I am having trust issues.
That's not Ben Hermann! :P
How about more economical and larger capacity ink cartridges that are also environmentally friendlier? Those would cut into profits, so we won't get those (from the OEM makers).
King Penguin: The long slow drawn-out death of the Pentax name has officially started........now they're just a brand, next just a brand in some countries, the rest of the cameras branded Ricoh in core countries, then eventually re-launched as the nostalgic version of the Ricoh camera of the time to pep up it's sales for a few extra years before the new Ricoh model is launched....
They lost the digital race.......which company is next?
Asahi Optical has always made excellent beer goggles. ;-)
Adobe is trying to boil the frog.
Adobe is completely off my list of acceptable companies, joining Bank of America, AT&T and Electronic Arts. Bye-bye!
ArunasS: I am still happy with PS7. Could be strange, but it is totally enough the few tools incl. colour management. LR is somewhat different story. I am really worried about the possible future changes to LR subscribtion only version. It is (or was?) a decent tool for raw conversion. Perhaps I will need to find another one. In that case we have meaninglessness of the DNG format.
BTW, why are we alloud to vote "Like", but no possibility to "Dislike" in the responses?
A few months ago we voted against having the "dislike" option. Presume safely that any post that doesn't get any likes is being hated with a passion!
TheEye: Hey Winston, does the amount of outrage in "the hobbyist photographic community" match your expectations yet? ;-)
I agree, Adobe can't get any plainer than they have. After having used PS for almost 20 years, Adobe's new business smodel, which is as mercenary as they come, is a slap in the face and they want me to shove off. Gladly, because Adobe can shove all their products as far as I am concerned.
I hope there will be "many people like [me]" - I take that as a compliment - and I sincerely hope that Adobe comes to regret their shameless money grab.
Photoshop is mature software with merely incremental feature updates and marginal innovative features that aren't worth the cost for upgrades for most users. That's what's behind Adobe wanting to strong-arm those customers who feel they "must have" every latest doodad. Not sure how many suckers are out there, but Adobe will find out.
I see your whole depreview history is in this thread. That's very telling. :-P
Hey Winston, does the amount of outrage in "the hobbyist photographic community" match your expectations yet? ;-)
KieranGee: I don't know if this has already been asked, but what about Photoshop Elements? For the vast majority of my edits, that is more than enough, and has a reasonable purchase cost. Is that going to be a subscription free service like Lightroom would appear to be staying?
Elements is lacking basic features I need. Also, because of Adobe's greed, I wouldn't buy it if it were to cost next to nothing.
If Adobe gets away with their scheme, every other software company will eventually follow suit.
At this point I won't buy any Adobe product just out of principle.
Adam Filipowicz: if high schools cant afford it.. then they should switch to something else.. I dont even think highschools need adobe products.. if you want to learn it.. go to college/university and it will be paid for by your outrageous tuition fees
Yes, you really do need to go back to high school and take a writing-for-beginners class.
you..write like. this/that and you mix up your and you're and there and their! :-P
Adam Filipowicz: In my business. its easier to stay with a subscription rather then going through the yearly hassle of requesting software upgrades.. its cheaper, faster and less work to manage
You sound like a bot.
jkokich: For a guy who says he's pretty much off the grid, this Filipowicz seems quite connected.
I think it's you who failed to recognize jkovich's sarcastic post. We all can tell how connected you are.
57even: It just struck me that forcing many low usage users into paying considerably more for a product simply because they are locked in is probably a breach of anti-trust law. Now, anyone know a friendly lawyer?
You mean I won't be able to work on my tens of thousands of layered PSD files in some other editing program? I smell a class-action lawsuit. :-P
TheEye: Adobe believes their customers should have to pay $800 per year to use Photoshop. Adobe doesn't care that I neither need nor want all the latest doodads. I am also sure that Elements will remain a severely crippled 8 bit version of Photoshop.
Adobe can go and fly a kite in the cloud. There are other options.
I never felt a need for updating CS3.
Surely you know that software does not remain compatible forever, so don't give me smug advice, Adobe shill.
Michael Ma: Adobe responds with...a *verbal response*, but no real response in any sense of that word. They might have released a press release with the single statement "So?", and called that a response.
Adobe has give the "hobbyist photo community" the finger. Time to tell them where to shove it.
So what's right for you must be right for everyone else? Enjoy your constant "updates" - you can't live without them.
How often have you posted in this thread? Ten more posts, and you'll get a $15 check from Adobe! :-P
SRT3lkt: guess many hobyist here then.
"We expected a higher degree of this type of reaction from the hobbyist photographic community "
Nice slap in the face of longtime customers. Now it turns out Adobe just doesn't care for for the "hobbyist photographic community." Adobe are charming and clever!