baris ozcetin: i really wonder if anybody migrating from d700 to 5d3 :)
I have a D700 (15.000 photos).Good DR, AF, high ISO results. Now I know D700.I will use D700 until breaking-off.Meanwhile I will buy other lenses.
Gothmoth: can someone explain why the D4 sensor is worse then the D800 in the DXO score?
i mean ok resolution is clear.
but the D800 is better in DR and color depth scores too.and the D4 is not so much better in low iso score.
DxO measurements "Print":From 300 ISO to 25.600 ISO D4 have better DR than D800.
DxO measurements "Screen":From 200 ISO to 25.600 ISO D4 have better DR than D800.
D800 has better DR than D4 only at 100 ISO.
Antony John: For anyone interested, DXO have now measured the sensor and the data is available.Let's just say their results are 'interesting' as is their rating.
DxO Dynamic Range (D800 vs D700). Switch to 'Screen':D700 has better Dynamic Range than D800 from 400 ISO until 6400 ISO.
I hope DPReview in the final deep review give us samples taken with best primes as Nikkor 85mm f/1.4 G. Same samples with D800 and D700. Possible?
Petka: According to the table published at the Luminous Landscape site, f11 with FF sensor is diffraction limited to 16 MPix in green and 10 MPix with red wavelengths. This test should be redone at f5.6 (116, 60 and 38 MPix with B, G and R resp.). With f11 all FF cats are gray, no wonder there are no real resolution differences in these samples, they are all about 16 MPix no matter which camera.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/resolution.shtml Scroll to the end.
Thanks Petka.Then DPR should test D800 with NIKKOR 85mm f/1.4 G at f5.6 for best results.
It is theory.Can they tell us which is the best lens for each camera?So we shall exploit all MP.
jomtominium: Reading all these posts got me thinking about why I enjoy photography and it comes down to the moment.... capturing a moment in time... wow...… and it's documented for ever, for family, for future generations, for history to look back at. I really don't care about pixels, or whether iso's are what they say they are, or whatever.what I want is a camera that I can carry around with me, that gives me decent enough quality pictures, is responsive when it needs to be, that can be used in all weather conditions and that I can feel confident in delivering the results I demand of it.I hope the Olympus lives up to this and that it will become one of the iconic cameras for those of us who enjoy the art of photography as was the OM1 in it's day.
You're right but consider we are in a transitory period with quick technical improvements. We all learn discussing and posting our good or bad opinions. Consider that recent high ISO results improvements allow us photograph in all light conditions.Meanwhile we all do what you do : capture moments in time.
Nerdybeng: Not sure if someone else has already posted this, but here's OM-D EM-5 in real live action:http://robinwong.blogspot.com/
The EM-5 / 45mm F1.8 portrait kit is fantastic.
role_of_72: The APS-C - 43 gap is now closed. And everyone lives happily ever after :)Good job, Oly!
Another important parameter in DOF is focusing distance. Sensor dimension, focal lenght, maximum aperture (if you can use it or better maximum aperture you practically can use), focusing distance. Well, but we must see total lens performance too. Not a question of competition m4/3 versus FF, but we can have a m4/3 portrait kit lighter with an excellent lens (Zuiko 45 F1.8).
I agree, Manuel.With Zuiko 45 f/1.8 you can reach good quality of the bokeh where you need it : portrait.
What's the future in connectivity?4G / 5G / 6G ..... Now I need change only a phone.After I need change cameras too.Optional on DSLR and only if interchangeable!
@ dpreview: technical reviews are useful but now we need service to the customer reviews too.
What about Aperture for iOS?
Biowizard: Thinking about "Full Frame" (linked to the outmoded concept of 35mm film), here's my take ...
The sensor I'd like to see in a "Pro" DSLR body is 43mm CIRCULAR one. This would capture the ENTIRE image circle of a standard full-frame 35mm lens, with the following benefits:
1) Capture 36x24mm landscape AND 24mmx36mm portrait images SIMULTANEOUSLY on a single file
2) Eliminate the need for a second grip, shutter release, etc., because the camera would NEVER need to be tilted sideways
3) Eliminate, once and for all, sloping horizons: because a FULL 36*24 or 24*36 "level" image could be obtained without cropping
4) Provide 30mm SQUARE format, or 34.5x26 / 26x34.5 4:3/3:4 aspect ratio images, using MORE pixels than the standard 35mm "full" frame
After all: when we use binoculars or a telescope, we are perfectly happy with a circular field of view, and never experience "sloping horizons", so why not for cameras too?
You heard it here first ...
[Ed. got two dimensions wrong!]
Biowizard,I would prefer standards as:- 1" dia sensor- 1.5" dia sensor- 2" dia sensor.
"Redesigned Focus Mode Switch".Focus mode switch is the only lack in my D700.Casual displacement it's very tedious."To access the D4's AF modes, you have to depress the button at the hub of the control".Very good choice, Nikon!
First, thanks for moving towards and standardized high-iso test.
But that said, you probably should take a look at the scene while it's still new and you haven't shot dozens of tests with it. People have bene criticizing it, and some of that is unfair - it needs to be a tripod shot for comparability and lighting needs to be stable even if low for the same reason. The subject, though, are just about as bad as they could have been for this test - NR smearing doesn't really impact most of the items in the picture. The rat, which is affected, is out of focus. Please consider replacing some of the plastic figurines with hair, texture and feather samples, ideally in patterns that tend toward small. Those things in central focus. If possible, try to normalize the highest-iso shot at 1/250 or possibly even shorter, since high-iso is so often used to freeze action. It will not be a perfect test - what is? - but it will be better.
Andy,is it difficult for you test D700 and 5D Mark II in similar way?And D800 when available.Readers could see real improvements.
hyperthreading: I have a question.
Why were the tests made with the Nikon 85 f/1.8? They should be made with the Nikon 85 f/1.4.
If you are testing a Nikon high-end camera that costs $6000, should you not be testing it with the best Nikon lens which costs $2200? Why was it tested with a midrange lens which costs $500?
Cameras should be tested with the best lenses.
@jwalker019You're right, but the Nikon MTF chart for each lens is based on the value at the maximum aperture of the lens.At f/11 Nikon 85/1.8 G lens has nearly 3200 resolution value,Nikon 85/1.4 G lens has nearly 3450 resolution value.I would prefer 85/1.4 G (less vignett. and chr. aberr.).
Jogger: testing a $6000 camera with a $500 lens.. makes perfect sense to me
There is Nikon 85/1.4 G for a correct comparison with Canon 85/1.4, in my opinion.
Camera is a DPReview Gold Award (83% score).Lens is very good (mech. and opt.).60 mm equiv. lens is between 50 mm equiv. standard lens and 80 mm equiv. portrait lens.It could be an useful and light kit for enthusiasts who prefer closer views.
Can we have same test for D700 and 5DII?