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It's a good choice if you want see the world always with the same perpective and taste always the same typical colour rendering.
Tom_A: Opinion from this old-fashioned photographer...
The D800 looks like one of the best cameras ever for those who like thoughtful photography.
Still, my own perfect dream camera would be something simpler: a kind of equivalent to the deliciously simple and relatively compact yet excellent Nikon FM2 or FE2, with this sensor, AF and processing build-in, and of course with a screen at the back. But functionally, in essence just diaphragm and shutter speed.
I wonder if I am the only one craving for such a combination of simplicity and quality.
@Tom_A:
FM was W142xH90xD60 mm. D700 is W147xH123xD77 mm.
The FF sensor unit is larger than the old film unit.
The screen at the back has a thickness too.
Then : processing unit, circuits and memory cards.
I'm sure technology will produce tinner sensor units and more compact FF digital cameras. But not quickly in my opinion.
Cons: "New 'simplified' AF mode switch requires more steps to switch between AF-S, AF-C and AF area modes (compared to the D700)".
I have a D700 and AF mode switch is very useless : lever is unstable.
I have lost several photos.
With 3 positions you must always "look" at lever.
With 2 positions you can verify and set without "look" at lever.
Tom_A: Opinion from this old-fashioned photographer...
The D800 looks like one of the best cameras ever for those who like thoughtful photography.
Still, my own perfect dream camera would be something simpler: a kind of equivalent to the deliciously simple and relatively compact yet excellent Nikon FM2 or FE2, with this sensor, AF and processing build-in, and of course with a screen at the back. But functionally, in essence just diaphragm and shutter speed.
I wonder if I am the only one craving for such a combination of simplicity and quality.
I had a FM and I have a D700.
FM was simple and manual lenses were solid and complete.
D700 is more complex, but I can choose 1/1600 sec. and f/8, set automatic ISO and photograph birds without any problems.
New AF lenses make the rest.
You can use D700 in manual mode too with old not AF lenses.
D700 moreover is well balanced (weight and dimensions).
Wedding, sports and birdwatching need a dsrl and fast AF lenses.
Yes, Leica lenses have better color rendition.
Fast AF Leica lenses with Nikon/Canon mount could be a solution.
But I don't know if Leica, Nikon and Canon agree.
Photographers agree in my opinion.
cesaregal: Finally a Gold Award for micro four thirds!
Panasonic GH2 was worth of a Gold Award, in my opinion.
Fast AF, good DR, video (1920x1080 24p 23 Mbps).
AF Performances.
AF speed is very important in my opinion. I don't see in the WEB or in the literature a complete answer in order to camera/lens AF speed values.
Which is E-M5/Zuiko 12mm AF speed?
Which is E-M5/Zuiko 45mm AF speed?
Excellent lenses but what about autofocus speed when joined to E-M5?
Finally a Gold Award for micro four thirds!
pc168: I'm using D700 and interested to know how far the IQ of that new DX sensor would fall behind the FX. As such, I have downloaded those NEF samples and converted to JPG using Capture NX2 v2.3.2. After checking the result (with limited samples), I have an impression that the D3200's IQ is considerably far away from FX (D700). However, 24MP (DX) vs 12MP (FX) might be a matter of concern.
You can see here D3200 jpg samples with 40mm f/2.8G:
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d3200/sample.htm
Not bad.
I have D700 and 85mm f/1.8.
D3200 + 40/1.8 is cheaper.
9himage: No reason just to test the camera with the kit zoom. With this performance, I will use this camera for serious work.
Ok, you're right R Butler.
But Nikonians can have already excellent and cheap lenses as 50/1.8 D or 85/1.8 D.
Martin Mojzis: It is really terrible, as everywhere in the press release cited "for quality images and HD video." Idiotic marketing, Nikon founders turn in his grave ...
I did not attach such importance to the gold strip. Professional lenses are those that are listed NPS. 50/1,4G has no band and is listed, I registered it, ie it is possible that the 28/1, 8 not. It is of course nonsense, while will be optically good. But no ED will be more prone to CA and the aperture has only 7 blades, though rounded.
Martin,
7 blades 85mm f/1.8G has better bokeh quality than my 9 blades 85mm f/1.8D.
Not only the number of blades is important in my opinion.
I'm waiting: it's the wide lens for my D700.
I have 50/1.4G and 85/1.8D.
I hope in fast autofocus speed.
I love this camera:
a) fast prime lenses
b) hybrid viewfinder
c) very fine general results (details, colours)
d) very fine portrait results
e) acceptable jpgs.
Good choices:
1) first prime lenses and after .. zoom lenses
2) no low-pass filter
3) sturdy and simple body.
f_stops: I want a 50-150mm f2.8 full-frame!
I wanted from Sigma a "fast autofocus" 40-80 mm f2.8 FF.
Careful photographers needn't a strong pp's help.
Analysis of the light, study of the perspective and choice of proper lens are enough.
However bad situations can need a pp's help, if you accept it.
It must be an exception in my opinion.
Stanley zheng: I was wondering why the score for a dynamic range done by dxomark is different from dpreview, for example nikon d700 dxomark came up with 12.2 ev for its dynamic range and dpreview come up with only 7ev at base iso 100. I dont understand, can anyone explain why? cuz personally, I dont believe nikon d800 has a dynamic range of 14 ev.
DxO "Screen" Dynamic Range:
at 200 ISO: D700 11,8 EV D800 12,2 EV
at 800 ISO: D700 10,9 EV D800 10,5 EV
DxO "Print" Dynamic Range:
at 200 ISO: D700 12,0 EV D800 13,3 EV
at 800 ISO: D700 11,2 EV D800 11,6 EV
Good D800, good D700.
Atlasman: Is Nikon making room for a lower end model?
A quick camera for birdwatchers?
High end, lower price.
D400?
baris ozcetin: i really wonder if anybody migrating from d700 to 5d3 :)
I have a D700 (15.000 photos).
Good DR, AF, high ISO results.
Now I know D700.
I will use D700 until breaking-off.
Meanwhile I will buy other lenses.
Gothmoth: can someone explain why the D4 sensor is worse then the D800 in the DXO score?
i mean ok resolution is clear.
but the D800 is better in DR and color depth scores too.
and the D4 is not so much better in low iso score.
im puzzled.
DxO measurements "Print":
From 300 ISO to 25.600 ISO D4 have better DR than D800.
DxO measurements "Screen":
From 200 ISO to 25.600 ISO D4 have better DR than D800.
D800 has better DR than D4 only at 100 ISO.
Antony John: For anyone interested, DXO have now measured the sensor and the data is available.
Let's just say their results are 'interesting' as is their rating.
DxO Dynamic Range (D800 vs D700). Switch to 'Screen':
D700 has better Dynamic Range than D800
from 400 ISO until 6400 ISO.