Alpha Whiskey Photography: Love my EM5. Waterfalls, night shots, wildlife. Shot everything with it. Who wants my FX DSLR? ;)
Great pictures, thanks for sharing!You really seem to have lots of fun with your M5.
PenGun: Another idiotic review. If you morons could not get sharp pictures because auto focus was off, find someone who can work a camera.
No one who needs 36 MP cares about the grip, or even what it looks like.
Another puff piece.
Hey, PennyGun, go to your mountains and stay there forever. Maybe you will make some troll friends who will put up with your rudeness.
PhotoKhan: Not as impressive as I thought it would be.
Nothing more to tell?
Excellent IQ - like D800 before. But is the whole concept of this camera just as excellent?
I found this interesting review:http://www.pekkapotka.com/journal/2013/11/11/tempted-by-the-sony-a7r.html
... I am not a pro shooter, but have to agree to most of his points.
In my opinion, Sony tends too much towards the extremes with some of their products.
SRT3lkt: I don't need 36mp for tiny 35mm sensor.
Almost nobody needs 36MP, but the sensor was left over from the D800 development, so they reused it in the 7r. :-)
Wow. Applause for Panasonic!Since the start of MFT, I was very interested in the system, but found that even Oly's PEN series was too large for my purpose.
With this little wonder I have to think it over again. When combined with the kit lens, it is practically as compact as an XZ-2.
Panasonic's colors seem to have improved, too. I still hope that Oly will find a good answer to it!
basilboy: I've started my digital shooting with a C-5060, then used C-8080, SP320, XZ-1, for my personal work, and enjoyed all of them immensely. Then I made the mistake of purchasing a XZ-2 with its very poor focusing performance. I waited with patience hoping Olympus would come up with a firmware correction / upgrade, but nothing happened. I'm using the LX-7 now, and I'm very happy with it. I don't think I will touch another Olympus compact. In the past I've also used with satisfaction, LX3, Canon G9 and G15. I've still got my C-5060 and LX3. Thought I'd share my thoughts :)
Write this to Olympus' customer service.I'm quite happy with my XZ-2, but yes, under certain circumstances I better use manual focus. LX-7 is great, but I still don't like Panasonic's skin colors.
Great improvement in functionality!I miss the little robot, though. You should have put him in, instead of the Beatles. I also think that there's no replacement for the paper-clips.
Looking forward to the database filling up with older models...
sambomax: Good photos but when i compare it to my D7100/Tokina 11-16/Tamron 24-70vc 2.8 i can tell instantly that is a pocket quality.
Quality is subjective, and hard subject to argue but i can assure you that mirrorless is not there yet.
I am not a fan or a boy but Nikon DSLR leave this in the dust as far as pure IQ.
@samboYour D7100 surely is an excellent camera, but I think your view is very limited. Yes, the selection of lenses for m4/3 is smaller than that of APS-C, but the quality is on par. I do not think that you could tell from this shot, that is was made with a "pocket cam":http://www.cscrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Olympus-Zuiko-M-Digital-75mm-F1.8-lens-for-Micro-Four-Thirds-2.jpeg
Personally, I hope that m43 will last, because I will never want to buy a large, heavy and noisy DSLR. It's good to have a choice.
tommy leong: something odd about Olympus, given its success with OMD i would think that the XZ-2 would be a walk in the park for them.
YET somehow they managed to ruin XZ-2 autofocus...Its a great little camera but i wouldn't whole heartedly recommend it...Seems like they didn't finish off the important part of their products.
I would not call it "ruined". It can get tricky when in full zoom and F>3.0, but most of the time there are no problems.
justmeMN: In the USA, Olympus mirrorless is still an obscure product line, with little brand awareness, little advertising, and little retail shelf space. They don't seem to have much of a future here.
Yes, sales in the US have grown, but does Oly make profits there? Prices are quite low in the US compared to Europe.
ManuelVilardeMacedo: Mirrorless, as it is done now, is a path that leads to nowhere. Cropped sensors will never equal full frame. The way to go is the one Sony pointed at with the RX1: full frame mirrorless. Price can be a problem, I know, and then there's the lens size issue, but mirrorless cameras like this one are uncapable of the kind of dynamic range a full frame sensor can offer. I use a mirrorless camera alongside a 35mm film one, so I'm not writing this out of bigotry or cynicism. These are my findings after comparing results.And no viewfinder is an issue, too - although there will always be the X-E1 for those who can't do without one.
@Manuel:Thank you for the interesting paper! My conclusions:
1. You are right that on the one hand film has more DR potential than even FF sensors. On the other hand, the practical value of it is very limited (see their conclusion). With digital cameras, exposure is more delicate. This is why most of them come with helpful tools to prevent blown highlights.
2. They also make clear that even a little compact can beat film regarding noise. Larger sensors are way ahead.
3. You say, FF was much better in DR than APS-C. Looking at the DXO numbers this is only true for older sensors. Currently, the best APS-C equal FF in DR with 14 stops.
You may be right that not all sensor developers focus on DR - megapixels and high ISO are still the focus. Maybe, we will see a DR race in the near future.Till then: You better expose for the highlights! ;-)
@Manuel:I don't agree to your judgement. APS-C and 4/3 are the right way to go i.m.o.
1. FF digital is not like FF film, because it is bigger and more expensive.
2. APSC and 4/3 have long surpassed the quality of film. The increase in quality FF offers is totally irrelevant for most people.DR is not an issue anymore.
3. Why was 35mm so successful? It was cheaper, lighter and totally sufficient in quality for most users compared to MF. Same applies to APS today.
Ben O Connor: I wished to own "a mirrorless systme camera" M 4/3 was first interest, then it becoming NEX... but when I check DxO´s ratings, I am confused.
According to them , all these lenses avaliable on mirrorles cam´s are ordinary or trash.
Ben, don't get confused: You cannot directly compare the scores between different sensor formats.
WACONimages: Most Micro Four Thirds standaard lenses are pretty sharp and decent quality given their price! Why it seems so hard for Nikon/Canon to produce fair priced, but still nice quality standard kit-lenses?
I've been since my first compact camera a Canon guy. Just happens so. Compacts, pro-dslr ect. Invest a lot of money in that. Lately I'm more and more surprised by MFT, especially their lenses.
And what is the point! of having lenses with a certain max aperture!, if you have to stop them down by one or two stops to get decent quality????
It seems mirrorless is a somehow better at max aperture. Hear good things also about the Nikon 1 system in this respect.
Right so, Wacon. Don't listen to them and simply rely on your own experience. ;-)
Karl Gnter Wnsch: Their measurements are so badly screwed - the 100mm f/2 USM lens better than the 100mm f/2.8L IS USM - there is something fishy going on here, and it stinks mighty badly! I can only see one reason in their published data: They seem to take all aperture settings into account which a lens offers - and at f/22 (the maximum the 100mm f/2 can close it's aperture to) the diffraction of the sensor isn't as bad as on the 100mm f/2.8L IS USM where the lens can close to f/32. So these guys basically are morons who have no clue what they do and should be barred from further producing this overload of measurement garbage! Please DPreview - do yourself a favor and drop them from your portfolio of partners, you're better off without them!
I'm quite sure they know what they're doing. The problem is, they 'compress' all their findings into one figure and this makes it actually harder to choose between two similar lenses. A cross table with selectable points of measurement is better i.m.o.
So, all you need is a D800 and a cheap Samyang 85mm f/1.4 and you're in i.q.-heaven? Interesting.
Anyone here, who has this combination?
Hugo808: So the lenses most people are going to use - 18-55, 18-135 - are the worst ones for the camera?
That makes it a tough sell, why can't we have a top performing standard zoom without having to carry around something heavy like the fast L series options?
Just once would be nice.....
Why? Reason 1: Because most people don't want to pay 1.000€ or more for an entry level SLR.Reason 2: Because most people who buy entry level SLRs do not have the need for better lenses.
mathew crow: What's a BlackBerry?
... a smarter phone than other "smart phones".
FoolyCooly: Is it too early to request a shootout?
Panasonic G6 VERSUS Blackmagic Pocket Cinema *FIGHT*
Interested in seeing if Panasonic squeezed any more DR out of the 16MP Live MOS.
BlackMagic shoots RAW Video but it is limited to 30fps.
Just watch the comparison between 5d and Blackmagic (available on the web) and you'll see that G6 will not have much of a chance.
The Blackmagic's sensor is purpose built, while that of G6 is an all-rounder.
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