Ergo607: Who Cares?
@montxsuz: I don't have the highest end components. But I know my PC is absolutely not a sloth. See below for the specs of my PC running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit.
Intel Core i7 2600K cooled with Corsair H100, and overclocked stably to 4.8GHz.
G.SKILL Ares Series DDR3 1866MHz 4x4Gb RAM.
Asus Sabertooth Z77 motherboard.
C drive (for programs and games) is a pair of Crucial M4 256Gb Solid State Drive in Raid 0.
D drive (for RAW files and other storages) is 4 x 1.5Tb Western Digital Caviar Black in Raid 10.
Video card is a XFX Radeon HD6970, mainly for Battlefield 3 after work ;P
@oldZorki: Yes, this is why I think the DXO team should get a copy of LR, and compare it to theirs. LR is a good example of speedy processing and workflow done right.
@Manuel: The rendering time I referred to is the time it takes optics pro to render a preview image from the raw file onto the display before it becomes workable. It takes way too long. With LR4 on my computer, the image is workable almost instantly right after I click on it. And each time I make an adjustment on a slider, Optics Pro would re-render a new preview. This makes the software painfully clunky. With LR4, there's no stuttering at all when you make changes on the slider. To me, this is absolutely not a minor speed issue as I often have hundreds of pictures to work on after an event. The only edge I see Optics Pro has over LR is the specific lens + camera correction modules. Other than this, LR trumps Optics Pro is every other aspects. Image quality wise I find that I get much better noise reduction and highlight recovery with LR than with Optics Pro. After trying out Optics Pro v7, I decided to stick with LR instead of wasting money to upgrade my copy of Optics Pro v6.
@ Manuel (con't): I run LightRoom 3 and now LightRoom 4 on the exact same machine (Core i7 2600K overclocked to 4.8GHz with 16Gb ram.) Each time I make an adjustment, I see the changes right away. I can play with the adjustment sliders without being slowed down one bit by any image rendering. I thought LightRoom 3 was fast, LightRoom 4's rendering speed is even faster. Images are rendered almost instantly. There is absolutely no way that I would go back to DXO until they can match LightRoom in this aspect. I suppose DXO is good if one only has a few images to work on. But when one has to make adjustments to hundreds of images each time, I guess LightRoom is a much better choice.
@Manuel: I bought v6, and I found that image rendering is slow. Each time you make a single slight adjustment, the image needs to be totally re-rendered. Making it extremely and painfully clunky to use. I lived with it because it actually does a very good job correcting the optical flaws of my Tokina 12-24mm. When they announced v7 claiming that the preview is faster, I had high hopes. Downloaded the trial, and I was very disappointed. I didn't feel it previewing faster one bit. When they meant faster, I suppose with a sports stop watch you can tell it's a tiny fraction of a second faster. But it's still as clunky to use as v6. Still requiring full re-rendering each time you make a slight readjustment.
@Manuel: just sharing my honest opinion as an ex-DXO user. @Ergo: yes, obsolete is the word.
bearseamen: Oh, I can allready see it:
Ken Rockwell after 2 hours of using it:
"The Nikkor 18-300 is the best Nikon lense ever made."
Wait for it!
He'll mount it on his D3200 with the SB-400, and tells everyone that this is the combo that he uses 99% of the time.
By the way, I bought it because LightRoom didn't have lens correction before. Now that LigthRoom has lens correction. I don't see why anyone should care anymore.
I wouldn't call that trolling. I did buy it, and it's a total waste of money. Other than Fujifilm's Hyper-Utility, I've never used a piece of software that is as clunky as the DXO Optics Pro. To the DXO team, please go get a copy of LightRoom, and compare it to yours.
Ken Aisin: On top of this 14mm, I hope they'll make a 17.5mm, a 25mm, and a 42.5mm with auto focus, f1.0 aperture, and weather sealing. Partner these lenses with an E-M5, I'll be all set for many years to come.
I want the Voightlander 17.5mm too. But I need 3D tracking continuous autofocus to take pictures of the kids. Manual focus lens is not an option for me :)
meatatarian: Nice s2000! The red is a great color, second only to my Laguna Blue!
+1. It's so sad that Honda killed it off.
On top of this 14mm, I hope they'll make a 17.5mm, a 25mm, and a 42.5mm with auto focus, f1.0 aperture, and weather sealing. Partner these lenses with an E-M5, I'll be all set for many years to come.
Mssimo: They should have a kit with the 40mm f2.8
I want a kit that comes with a 28mm equivalent f2.8 weather sealed pancake.
It's nice to see that it can take AA batteries without having to buy a vertical grip. Don't get me wrong, I love lithium batteries. But manufacturers also love to gouge us with them.
Looks like a great deal for a fully sealed camera and kit lens. Definitely great for outdoor use. Unfortunately, I'm too invested with Nikon gear, so I can only wish Nikon would build splash proof cameras and lenses in this price range in the near future. Shooting with rain cover or plastic bag is just way too clumsy.
Finally a system that makes me wanna go mirrorless. Will have to wait for reviews on image quality first though.
mantra: hope it will not shipped with the more terrible copy protection
once i wanted to try and in case buy it , because i use lot wide lenses
but it did mess up my windows :(
Tell me about it. With Version 5, whenever I needed to restore Windows, I just had to return the serial key, reinstall Windows, and use the same key to reactivate Version 5 once everything's restored.
But with Version 6, this feature was gone. Whenever I needed to restore Windows, I had to contact customer support to grant me a new activation.
One time I remember I had to re-install Windows couple of times in a week because I was testing out several new video cards, and was having compatibility issues. I explained my situation to the tech support in my email, and I was told that frequent reactivation will require management approval. This was ridiculous. So, I just gave up, and went to get myself a copy of LightRoom 3 instead.
HiRez: I look forward to the day when these can ship as true plugins to Aperture and Lightroom, when they can work non-destructively within the app 's workflow.
It works non-destructively with DXO Optics Pro. But then DXO Optics Pro is so clunky and sluggish. I gave up and switched back to Lightroom 3. Besides, Lightroom 3's high ISO output is much cleaner and has more detail than those from DXO Optics Pro.
When Panasonic and Sony implement hybrid AF in their mirrorless cameras to match the Nikon 1 on AF-C performance, there won't be any reason to buy the Nikon 1.
Expensive price tag + tiny sensor + unpocketable size = FAIL.
slncezgsi: I would say that once people realize that this camera does not actually compete with NEX or m4/3, but rather acts as top of the class P&S for amateurs that actually what their simple camera to deliver acceptably good high ISO and focuses fast, than all that bashing it received up to know may finally stop.
Look at the JPEG output - obviously tuned to optimize to suppress the noise and not to preserve maximal detail. Sure - the ISO 3200 looks a bit like painting, but at medium size it is perfectly usable (web, small prints).
Whoever hoped for high end mirror-less camera with large sensor and professional layout - THIS IS NOT IT. It is high end P&S that should make great video and bring you home nice snaps from your vacation. Just accept it.
"It is high end P&S that should make great video and bring you home nice snaps from your vacation. Just accept it."
Hard to accept it with the $899 and $649 price tags.....