OMG... they put so many things together (big sensor, compact size, popup EVF, fast lens, flip display...) that this could really be the ultimate enthusiast compact!
Hi guys, with the Sonys in manual mode you have to set the "Image Stabilizer" option to ON to go above ISO 400.
tompabes2: Or you can just get an Android phone and download Camera FV-5. ;)
LOL... iFans... always looking for excuses.
Tie myself in a knot? I might be wrong, of course. But either you don't believe what I said or, if you do, you have to explain how exactly NightCap's long exposure is superior or different than Android's long exposure.In case you don't believe me, since an image is worth a thousand words here's a "long" (half second) exposure taken at native sensor resolution with camera fv-5 and an xperia V:https://www.dropbox.com/s/5q4clgkievbx70o/DSC_0044.JPG
Neither does iOS... if you read the article it says: "In Night mode, shutter speed can be set between 1/3 and 1 sec, depending on your device". That's their definition of "long" exposure...Android supports up to 1/2 second (at full resolution), which is not so different.
Or you can just get an Android phone and download Camera FV-5. ;)
I wonder how they would prove that I used exactly that setup to take a picture! :)
riskinhos: not waterproof no microsd slot no irda no usb3.0 no wireless charging, no many other sensors. no tkx.
would you pay twice the price for the things you mentioned? I wouldn't. ;)
Well, some important things that the comparison table does not report are the amount of RAM (2GB for the Z1 vs. 1,5GB for the s4 mini and 1GB for the one mini) and the fact that the chipset, besides being a Snapdragon 800 vs 400 (that is, a chipset designed for a flagship vs. a chipset designed for entry-level phones), also has a higher clock speed. What's more, even the GPU is better on the Z1c.The Z1c is really in a different league... it's the only one that is a true flagship in a compact body. The other two are just overpriced mid-range phones.
Anastigmat: I fail to see how taking away color information improves a photograph, especially a snpashot.
The shots are good, this can't be denied IMO. Interesting angles, technically well executed and they deliver the message, which is quite an achievement per se for a photographer.
Martin_PTA: I have both a 16Gb 5C and a 32Gb Galaxy S3. Both are great devices, but if they weren't on contract and I had to choose between the two I'd take the less expensive one. If I had to choose between an 8Gb 5C and a 32Gb S3 at the same price I'd take the S3. I'm thus doubtful if this move by Apple will do much to boost sales because 8Gb really isn't sufficient for a relatively advanced handset such as this.
Martin, I'd say that the majority of iphone users do not even know how much memory their devices have. What's more, they just use it to take some pictures, send whatsapp messages, check facebook, watch youtube and play candy crush saga. The most advanced users use it to listen to some music, but I know some people who have also an ipod, because the ipod is an mp3 player and the iphone is an iphone.What they don't know is that they could do the same things better (i.e. on a bigger screen and with much longer battery duration) on a good Android (a good one, of course, like a nexus 5, lg g2 etc) for half the price. But for these people, the 8GB 5c will just do fine.
SergioMO: Why is it for ???? Want to take a real photo ? Sony RX100 or something like that ! Don´t waste your time.
You didn't even look at the pictures, did you?
undergrounddigga: Will be interesting to see how will Apple cope with the competition. The others are much more open to collaboration (e.g. Sony-Zeiss, Nokia-Nikon?). Apple has a huge ego, and probably would be time to put that aside and build some lenses with Leica or Olympus. At the moment, they are kind of falling in the same mistake Nokia has, when they didn't realise the power of smartphones. Lots of people will buy certain phones, just because of their better photo capabilities.Not that I really care, I buy phones every 8 years, and I really hope I won't have to change mine for another 6 years.. :) From a business perspective however, will be interesting to see where is Apple going to be in 5-10 years time. I do use apple products, such as their personal computers.. absolutely love them. Maybe they have built such a strong computer and music (iTunes, iPod) market that until someone major challenged those, they will always be ok
Well, with Android 5 Google will probably open the entire image processing pipeline to OEMs and developers, so I guess that camera apps will be able to implement their own algorithms. I don't understand why it took so long for Google to realize that this step is absolutely necessary, anyway if they really do it Android will offer someting that the even the iphone or WP do not offer, that is, every camera app will be really different and won't just be a different interface like it is now. Then, Android users will have an incredible choice.And if you have a Nexus 4, Nexus 5 or another high-end smartphone that will be updated to Android 5, you might be able to use those new features, though of course it's simple speculation at this stage (we don't even know if Google will really open the camera API yet).
Apple knows their target audience very well. They don't need the *best* camera, they just need a *very good* camera, and they have it. Camera is just one part of the phone, here in this site we tend to overestimate it, but most users do not buy a phone for the camera alone. Otherwise, the 1020 would be the top-seller around the world, but most people just want a "good enough" camera. That's why the GS4 is the best selling Android smartphone even if it doesn't have the best camera. It has a "good enough" camera.Users that value the camera more than the other functions of the smartphone are a niche. Nokia has been luring those users, but we're taliking about small numbers. What people want is an overall balanced and high quality phone. That's why the Z1 is probably the only one that can compete with the iphone: it has exceptional build quality, top specs, very good camera, good design, and that's why it will sell much more than the 1020.So Apple just has to keep a good balance!
chj: Only thing I'm interested in is sports mode and it isn't even covered. Can I actually get fast shutter speed with this camera?
@chj: if the iPhone doesn't have it, it's a feature and a good thing for ease of use and simplicity of the interface, while if an Android phone doesn't have it, well.. it's a con! That's the general rule! ;)
HarrieD7000: Again an android gadget everyone wants and nobody uses because of the poor quality?
Poor quality? Did you have a look at the G2 camera samples on the Internet?
Very nice results, and regarding the statement that "the optical image stabilization system may produce "different motion blur effects while taking images on a tripod", well... even my Olympus XZ-10 manual says to turn off IOS when the camera is used on a tripod!
JWest: Surely we just need a "movement / still life" button, which switches between prioritising high shutter speed or low ISO? While very few people want to shoot their phone camera on full manual, if they care at all about the quality of their photos, they should be able to manage a simple toggle button.
Sometimes I wonder if all modern software is designed by idiots. This stuff isn't rocket science.
The "movement/still life" button already exists, and it's called "select the appropriate scene mode between sports and portrait"! ;)
Wrong focus point! ;)
Sony has just released a massive firmware update and from the first samples I've seen on the net it seems that the camera quality is so much improved that it almost looks like a different phone.The artifacts you see in the pictures in this review are almost gone. The color balance is also better, more natural. It's unfortunate that Sony didn't optimize its firmware from the beginning... I guess that the final rating of this phone would have been much better with the latest firmware.