MikeF4Black: Most commenters here have no idea whatsoever of Japanese business culture, let alone of the successful part of that business culture. It takes some reading between the lines to grasp what he's saying.
My only question is: did DPR really "make time" for him, or was it possibly just the other way round? ;-)
@MikeF4BlackHonest request: write about what you read between the lines, otherwise this is just pointless discussion.
vFunct: 4k should only be done on a professional cinema camera.
It should NOT be in any dSLR.
In fact, dSLR for video is useless. A real cinema camera is always better than dSLRs. The dSLR body is not designed for video, since the mount points are always near the center of gravity, causing it to be unstable and shaky.
Additionally, the full-frame sensor causes everything to be out-of-focus. Professional editors constantly complain how horribly unfocused dSLR videos are. You end up with much better shots with a smaller sensor, like super-35mm.
At this point, only amateur photographers shoot video with dSLR videos. I never hire dSLRs videographers and always choose cinematographers with real video cameras for jobs.
Once you add all the cinema accessories to a dSLR rig, you're just better off with a real video camera, for better quality results.
I hope Nikon comes up with a separate cinema system, like what Canon did.
Some random thoughts (amateur opinion), after hearing about 4k for a while:- 4k might be the only option for the footage to look good on a big screen (eg. movie theater);- 4k downscaled to 1080p gives sharper footage and better colour space;- 4k allows room to crop in post to 1080p, so you can for example simulate camera movement (dolly shot), simulate focal lenght change (alternate between wide and tele without changing lens and without stop recording) or just correct a wide shot;- 4k futures proofs your work.
Jon H Laake: Can the flash tilt for bouncing?
The answer is in page 10 of the hands-on.
MrPrime: These are nice cameras but they are simply too expensive.
Remember the film days - low cost cameras with decent lenses, light weight, no batter charger to worry about. Entry price was low because nobody figured a lifetime of film expenses into the equation. And the short lifecycle of digital cameras means a $1000 compact camera is worth half that in a couple of years. Too expensive, waaaaaaaay too costly. A smart phone is a must-have and if it comes with a decent enough camera the step-up cost for the cameras shown above is simply laughed at.
These compacts have to be good enough to replace an SLR to get long term traction, and they aren't there yet. But they are getting closer.
A smartphone It's not a must have, It's just a luxury as a $1000 camera is...
Boss of Sony: WHY IS THIS CAMERA BIG NEWS? RICOH RELEASED A FULLY POCKETABLE CAMERA WITH AN !!!APS-C!!!! SIZED SENSOR 2 YEARS AGO (RICOH GR). THE ONLY THING THIS PANASONIC HAS OVER THE GR IS THE 4K VIDEO AND AN EVF. WHO CARES? NOBODY HAS 4K TVs. PLUS IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT FROM A NORMAL VIEWING DISTANCE, THERE IS NO VISIBLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 4K TV AND 1080P TV, so anybody who buys a 4k TV is mad. Most photographers are not interested in taking 4k video anyway, unless they want to make documentaries, in which case, who cares whether you have a pocketable camera or not.
Careful man, you seem to have turned off the caps lock key at the end!
Roman Korcek: "the exposure comp dial is odd: turning it to the right decreases exposure"Funny, so you turn it right to say +2 and this +2 setting actually decreases exposure by 2 EV?
No, they mean you turn the dial to the right (so counter clockwise), the button shows -2 and the indicator on the lcd goes to the left. It seems strange to turn the dial to the right and see the indicator move to the left.
Almeida: How is this a "portrait lens"?
The news is different now, no mention of portrait.
How is this a "portrait lens"?
Scorehound: For those people who are trashing this camera, I have to wonder why. From my experience with the original 7D, at least from my perspective this camera takes the good points of the 7D and makes an already great camera better. Built in Intervalometer, 65 cross type AF points, Dual Digic 6 processors, 10fps shooting, Dual card slots, and the list goes on.
Why is it that when Canon releases a camera people on here complain about what it doesn't have, then when Canon gives them what they want they whine about something else? This camera is going to be very popular, especially among those who have experienced the 7D and have drooled over the thought of an upgrade to it. I for one am one of those people. And for $1800, what the hell is the problem?
"The Problem is, for less then 1700$ you can go Full-frame, but not from your non-innovative Canon brand. ;)"
For less than 1700 USD you can buy a full frame camera (including Canon).
We are? Why limit yourself like that?
Lots of used canon full frame cameras for less than that...
joyclick: How come "I own it" and "I had it" even when it is just announced.
It's a way of showing how meaningless the scores are...
Boss of Sony: WILL THIS LENS BE USEFUL FOR ARCHITECTURE, SUCH AS INSIDE CHURCHES? I'M GOING BACKPACKING TO EUROPE SOON, AND WILL NEED A GOOD LENS TO PAIR WITH MY CANON 10D FOR WALKING AROUND AND TAKING PHOTOS OF CHURCHES AND MUSEUM INTERIORS, ETC.
Lol yes but buy both versions, some of those churches are a bit leaky...
Almeida: My samsung ex2 lens' is faster lol!
What! Two takers? Dpreview's crowd is a neverending supply of fun...
My samsung ex2 lens' is faster lol!
Hyperspeed is the perfect speed for the ADD civilization we live in today.
straylightrun: Breaking news just in: It has now been confirmed that If your photo is captured using the camera's self timer, it is legally not your photo any more but is the property of your camera.
The camera didn't just decide to take a photo by itself, a human pressed a button to take the self timer photo.
Greg VdB: The funny thing is that after all is said and done, Cinoflex says "If you embrace and correctly format a DSLR to your on set environment… you have an incredible camera on your hands." Should we assume they also built a mirror into the a7S? :-)
DSLR implies a mirror...