riveredger

riveredger

Lives in United States NJ, United States
Joined on Jul 10, 2010

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CarlosNunezUSA: A very nice article by Corel . I think they are the best alternative to Adobe and have really strong products. The problem is that they have no Mac Version which is a pity. I would encourage you to leave a message on their page requesting an OsX version. They cannot do that in 2 days, but I guess my CS6 version can hold until Corel is ready, if they make the commitment. Now would be a good time for Corel CEO to put on the big pants and challenge Adobe with an annoucement.

http://corelblogs.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/corel-is-all-about-giving-users-choice/#comments

lol, I am no shill. I just believe in free markets. Let them change their pricing model and if it fails they will be forced to change again or go out of business.

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riveredger: Thinking aloud ... I think the way a lot of these posters feel is the way most people feel when they get the bill from their wedding photographer

You fail to grasp the point. But a sincere good luck with your new endeavor.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 23:22 UTC
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riveredger: Thinking aloud ... I think the way a lot of these posters feel is the way most people feel when they get the bill from their wedding photographer

howard you sound just like the CEO of Adobe; the same arrogance and concern for your self interest. Believe me, most of your customers only sign that agreement because they have no other choice - just like Adobe is doing to everyone. :-)

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riveredger: Thinking aloud ... I think the way a lot of these posters feel is the way most people feel when they get the bill from their wedding photographer

Adobe won't call you to take back your processed images (in TIFF, JPEG, etc) either. They want to rent the tool to you and allow you to keep the output. Just like a wedding photographer. Even though your client pays you to do the work, you want to retain the rights to the actual product used to produce the output.

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Karl Summers: The Cloud will save me a ton of money on upgrades and new versions. I embrace the technology unlike many dinosaurs here. Sucks to be you.

Geez Henry. Way to drag yourself into the gutter with the anti-American tirade. Spoken about other people it would be considered racist.

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riveredger: Thinking aloud ... I think the way a lot of these posters feel is the way most people feel when they get the bill from their wedding photographer

No it isn't a big difference. That's like saying that once you process an image with Adobe you can do anything you want with it. But to reprocess next month? That will cost extra. Ironic, isn't it?

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riveredger: Thinking aloud ... I think the way a lot of these posters feel is the way most people feel when they get the bill from their wedding photographer

Actually, many wedding photographers do not give the negatives to their customers. They charge every time at their own rates if someone wants more prints.

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Thinking aloud ... I think the way a lot of these posters feel is the way most people feel when they get the bill from their wedding photographer

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 22:18 UTC as 321st comment | 18 replies
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Diderot2: Who needs Adobe?
I've got my Photoshop. If this ever gets too outdated there will be another program. What's more, I'm not going to a cloud for anything and I'm not storing anything on a cloud -- it leaves us (photographers especially) too vulnerable.

I want some protections, some rights, some privacy, some respect!

These companies better start asking what we consumers want. They think we're slaves but they're going to find out we don't need them after all. Then they'll be singing a different tune.

By the way, Adobe ain't what it used to be! Did you see that fourth rate artwork they sent out with that last CS promotion? The one with the "hair" artwork? It was putrid!

DNG converter is your friend

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 22:15 UTC
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CarlosNunezUSA: A very nice article by Corel . I think they are the best alternative to Adobe and have really strong products. The problem is that they have no Mac Version which is a pity. I would encourage you to leave a message on their page requesting an OsX version. They cannot do that in 2 days, but I guess my CS6 version can hold until Corel is ready, if they make the commitment. Now would be a good time for Corel CEO to put on the big pants and challenge Adobe with an annoucement.

http://corelblogs.wordpress.com/2013/05/08/corel-is-all-about-giving-users-choice/#comments

Mac ... From the other arrogant price inflating company

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 22:07 UTC

Sony should take advantage of all of this uproar and bundle software with PS layer type functionality with its Alpha line. This would give them the push they need to capture more of the professional and enthusiast market. Just a thought, Sony :-)

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 12:16 UTC as 501st comment
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frng: In small business terms:
Previously, the Adobe software was an asset
Now, it will be an expense.
This has HUGE implications for MOST creative businesses, like photog, architects, graphic designers, etc.
98% of these are small companies, who cannot afford a regular expense like this. Its a shame for Adobe as their products (esp. the suits) are reasonably well integrated products...
RIP

But you do have a choice Gary. You can choose not to buy a subscription and use something else.

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Steven Brenner: Just wait, rental of cameras is next. Your camera will work for 6 months and then you will have to reauthorize its use for a fee. Either we rebel or we get %X*&#.

dino - my math was spot on. Go back and read what I wrote. The total cost for the first 3 years is $600. You will also have received during that period what would have been the next "upgrade" without paying an additional $189 upgrade cost.

It all really depends on everyone's personal situation and buying habits.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 01:29 UTC
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frng: In small business terms:
Previously, the Adobe software was an asset
Now, it will be an expense.
This has HUGE implications for MOST creative businesses, like photog, architects, graphic designers, etc.
98% of these are small companies, who cannot afford a regular expense like this. Its a shame for Adobe as their products (esp. the suits) are reasonably well integrated products...
RIP

If a business can't absorb a $20 monthly expense, then they have bigger problems! As with anything else, though, these businesses will pass the cost along to their customers.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 01:11 UTC
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vincent__l: @riveredger

some real perspective...

fourth year = $240
fifth year = $240
sixth year = $240
Total cost = $720

Cost to upgrade CS6 = $200

If you upgrade once every 6 years (much more likely) then it's $1420 for CC vs $200 for the CS upgrade

According to Adobe 50% of all Photoshop users are using versions older than CS6. Many people are content with not upgrading very often.

In your situation, I would agree the old pricing model would be better.

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Steven Brenner: Just wait, rental of cameras is next. Your camera will work for 6 months and then you will have to reauthorize its use for a fee. Either we rebel or we get %X*&#.

Just let your wallet do the talking, then, and buy something else when you think your photos need more than CS6 is capable of delivering.

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riveredger: I have CS5. I paid for it already. It does everything most folks could ever want to do for still photography. The new Adobe subscription model doesn't impact me unless I decide I want to change my software, but I just plan to continue to use my CS5 and the free Adobe DNG converter. If at some point I want new software, I'll just buy whatever suits me at the time.

Everyone complaining, just use what you already have and when you decide you want something different, let your wallet do the talking.

Ok, you're just being silly now ...

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:46 UTC
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Steven Brenner: Just wait, rental of cameras is next. Your camera will work for 6 months and then you will have to reauthorize its use for a fee. Either we rebel or we get %X*&#.

Some perspective?

$10/month for the first year = $120
$20/month for the second year = $240
$20/month for the third year = $240
Total cost for 3 years = $600

CS6 $600

And there is no upgrade cost to the next version.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:32 UTC
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riveredger: I have CS5. I paid for it already. It does everything most folks could ever want to do for still photography. The new Adobe subscription model doesn't impact me unless I decide I want to change my software, but I just plan to continue to use my CS5 and the free Adobe DNG converter. If at some point I want new software, I'll just buy whatever suits me at the time.

Everyone complaining, just use what you already have and when you decide you want something different, let your wallet do the talking.

Like any other business, if the strategy fails they will either need to change or go out of business. I suspect they will change given the choice :-) Again - for me - this isn't an issue at all since I don't see any need to have to use the latest Adobe releases.

I save the .ARW and .DNG copies of the photos that I want to archive. I suggest you do the same if future compatibility is a concern.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:28 UTC
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riveredger: I have CS5. I paid for it already. It does everything most folks could ever want to do for still photography. The new Adobe subscription model doesn't impact me unless I decide I want to change my software, but I just plan to continue to use my CS5 and the free Adobe DNG converter. If at some point I want new software, I'll just buy whatever suits me at the time.

Everyone complaining, just use what you already have and when you decide you want something different, let your wallet do the talking.

DNG converter is your friend. My current camera isn't even supported by CS5. I save the original raw and use the dng in PS.

Direct link | Posted on May 9, 2013 at 00:19 UTC
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