Michael Ma: Options are always better than no options. It looks like you can squeeze out a little, maybe even a lot depending on how much you value extra detail and flexibility. That sky in the shot with the building is horrendous in JPEG. If I had the option, I'd always shoot with RAW knowing at the minimum I can squeeze out a JPEG of the same quality.
With that said, imaging on the smartphone is going nowhere until we can figure out how to either increase the size of the sensors or there's a breakthrough in sensor technology.
I saw the future:
Small BSI sensors with very small pixel pitch and the same single lens first. These will have amazing quantum efficiency.
Multi-lens phones - arrays of micro lenses capturing different parts of the image.
oselimg: Ok, Nokia raw gives slightly better DR but slightly grainier/noisy look than Nokia jpeg, it's a trade off. But how about technically comparing it to an ordinary DSLR or M4/3? I can't imagine people suddenly shedding their cameras for Nokia phones even as hobbyists. Another gimmick for wannabes.
Apples to oranges. It's a phone. If you want a camera, buy one.
Ivan Lietaert: In my opinion, the jpegs are superior. Why bother with raw in this case? There's little or no improvement at all.
> the jpegs are superiorNo.
You like in-phone JPEG processing better than the author's.
The tiny gain in DR is priceless. I love it! Thanks for the review.
MarcLee: Gotta say I have been playing with Aftershot Pro for a while today. It's built on Bibble, but without the kindergarten interface early versions of that had. Fast and a LOT of options.
I was pleasantly shocked to see it also IMPORTS PRE-EXISTING LIGHTROOM ADJUSTMENTS.
What it misses, I can find elsewhere.
I would not even have looked at this without the help of Adobe's CEO. There's a special upgrade price if you have Lightroom pr PSP.
Try Zoner, it costs the same, has a free trial too. I tried it along with Aftershot aka Bibble and favored Zoner. http://zoner.com
ssh33: So, what are the Photoshop and Lightroom alternatives on the PC and Mac?
I used Corel when dinosaurs roamed earth - it was a full featured suite and I switched to Adobe just because everyone else seemed to use it at the time. Photoshop was not any better as far as the functionality goes. Is Corel any good now?
Corel AfterShot Pro is only $59, looks like the perfect Lightroom replacement.http://www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?pid=prod4670071
I like GIMP, use it on Linux.http://www.gimp.org/
What are the others?
Just tried Zoner - now we're talking! The best so far!
Kinematic Digit: I wonder how many people would complain if you could use a new Nikon D800E, Nikon D4, Canon 1Dx or a Canon 5Dmk3 for $19 a month and then after a year decided to return it?
...but neither worked in the field if it happened to be the monthly internet authentication time, and the pictures you took with it could not be opened after the rental.
Downloading the trials now...
Tried Corel AfterShot Pro (Bibble) - very nice! It only imports photos from an existing folder not giving the option to copy and catalog into a filesystem automatically. I might be missing something - I only had 10 minutes to play with it yet. Other than that it is awesome.
So, what are the Photoshop and Lightroom alternatives on the PC and Mac?
Capitalism? I love capitalism! Capitalism is the the right to private property, the right to own. Adobe wants to take that right away from me. I can't own the tools I use, I can't even open my content that I spent countless hours on if I stop paying Adobe. In essence I don't own the fruits of my labor. Really?
What I CAN do is embrace the competition.
Here is a CONSTRUCTIVE suggestion: after a year of payments I own what I paid for - if I stop paying, you stop the updates. Fair?
GH2 with better EVF/screen, 60fps and focus peaking? Great deal!
There are better "photo" cameras for the money but this is a very nice piece of equipment for video at a very competitive price.
To all those knocking the form factor - pick any other camera that matches your fancypants. I love the utilitarian ergonomics so do many others.
tedandtricia: Said SD cards couldn't keep up with RAW capture, even though the tech specs say there is RAW. Still 10-bit 4:2:2 ProRes on a $995 cam. Nice.
1.5:1 compressed Cinema DNG to SD card.Mentioned here: http://vimeo.com/63675961
ssh33: This is a pro camera announced at National Association of Broadcasters show. The combination of small size, "Pocket" name, NEX appearance, affordable price, MFT mount and the news post on Digital Photography site is VERY MISLEADING to photographers that want to shoot better video.
BlackMagic will face the perfect storm of returns once they start shipping.
You are right, some will. Probably more videographers than journalists, but yeah. Great tech at affordable price.
Just mark my words about the returns, there is no way of knowing it now. I hope I'm wrong.
Nukunukoo: Question will it use the MFT Lenses' OIS?
OIS would drain the battery. As it is the battery is rated at 1 hour (probably more like 45 minutes).
32GB SD card will hold 7.5 min of RAW video.1TB hard drive will hold around 4 hours of RAW footage.
Just something to think about.
This is a pro camera announced at National Association of Broadcasters show. The combination of small size, "Pocket" name, NEX appearance, affordable price, MFT mount and the news post on Digital Photography site is VERY MISLEADING to photographers that want to shoot better video.
Jun2: Is cropping factor 3X vs full frame?
You can close the aperture and still get cleaner video due to ISO performance of full frame sensor. I do agree that deeper DoF with faster T stop could be an advantage, but your ISO performance would be degraded (small sensor). Both FF and S16 have their advantages depending on the application.
mpgxsvcd: Still no sign of whether "Active" means that it can auto focus the lens or not. Dpreview, a little help here?
Focus by wire to support MFT lenses only + focus peaking is good enough for the most. More control that way. Don't want to tie up the resources that could be used to potentially write RAW. They are going to push RAW first. I like that.
Lin Evans: Does it have an EVF or one available? If the LCD must be used for fine focus adjustments and framing in bright sunlight this will never fly. I've yet to see an LCD which can be used with the sun at one's back for fine focus adjustments regardless of the type of anti-reflection materials used.
Oh yeah, it has focus peaking like NEX.
PICSTAR: Can you frame-grab stills from this camera that will look high res?
Your phone takes better pictures.
With this tiny sensor you can just shoot hyperfocal. The target audience will have a monitor hooked up to it. You could also use a Z-Finder or something similar with it. This "Pocket" NEX-lookalike will confuse a lot of people.