shaocaholica: Why is the body so long? Flange back is ~7cm. Seems like they could have made it ~2cm shorter.
It's a good question, especially after you see where the sensor plane is.
The white circle with a line through it shows the sensor plane on cameras. In this case, it's only a bit behind the hotshoe, meaning there's a lot more than 2 cm to save. It can be done, and has been done with the Leica S2.
I think the answer can be had by comparing the prices of this and an S2 camera. This design provides a better tripod surface, too.
JONNO G: I swear pentax could come out with a full frame with 3 card slots at 75 mp with being fully waterproof and dpreview would mark it under 85%
Something you can be even more sure of: whatever way they review Pentax cameras, the Pentax fans will do a lot of whining.
It used to be that the Olympus fans were the worst whiners, but my, how things have changed.
Valiant Thor: Coming from a country that puts melamine in dog food and baby formula and toxic acidic chemicals in flip-flops that burn the skin off your feet, that's the pot calling the kettle black.
Valiant Thor: Do you actually know they're not inspecting across the board, or are you just basing your view of 1/6 of humanity on a few well-publicised incidents?
None of that will be made better by selling a bad camera - two wrongs still don't make a right.
Also, "a country" is a pretty broad term here. It's not like the government mandates melamine in food. Sure, they could probably use some better inspection of manufacturers. Which is exactly what they're doing with this camera.
Gesture: I admire the silly names each OEM gives its image processor.
Pentax' "Safox" AF module is also pretty good - it's the most sapphic AF system in the industry!
Retzius: Nice work Olympus.
Maybe one of these years Nikon can find the time to come out with a wide angle DX lens. Just one, cuz you know, it is your biggest installed user base. I know you are busy and I know you don't care what the other companies are doing and I know it is hubris for me to bother you with such things. But look, it has been like 10 years. If you designed one lens element a year for the last 10 years you could have had designed one by now.
Naveed Akhtar: bluevellet is right: I'm talking about the old Four Thirds system. I and many others jumped from that to M43, so common deficiencies in both systems add up to a lot of years...
If this lens is as good as the early reviews suggest, the wait is over though! Very good. In a perfect world there would be a tilt/shift in the system too, but I'll manage.
slncezgsi: Glad to see more Zeiss for mirror less cameras, but I personally think that longer focal length like 80mm (or even more) would have been more useful for a macro lens.
yabokkie: Do you know a lot about practical use?
Lux Painter: The 25mmf1.8 sounds like an awesome lens and was long overdue. And based on Olympus reputation of building great lenses it should have a stellar performance.
But the price tag of $400 (twice the price of a full frame 50mmf1.8 lens) must be a sick joke!
Maybe Olympus is trying to ruin their m43 biz completely.
If the 25 is anything like the 45/1.8, it will be clearly better than the 50/1.8. The Lenstip reviews of the 45 and 50 show quite clearly which one is made to a lower price - the 45 does not have "loud and unreliable autofocus".
Some have actually waited for a fast 50mm equivalent from Olympus for ten years (since the launch of the previous system). So maybe your wish will be granted, too?
This Olympus has nine elements, though, so it apparently takes more than a year per element. : )
disraeli demon: Excellent! I've been hoping Olympus would come up with a 25mm 1.8… the PanaLeica 1.4 is brilliant but price aside, I tried one in a shop and it weighs a TON… hopefully the street price of the Olympus will be a little more reasonable
You know M43 has succeeded at being a light system when a 200-gram lens is considered very heavy. : )
BaldCol: I've never used a camera with anything other than the standard Bayer layout. Do any of the alternatives from Fiji or the Foveaon from Sigma make a lot of difference in the real world?
Having seen the output of a friend's X100S, I'd take that sensor over anything of the same size or smaller any day. And this is after looking at out-of-camera JPEGs!
The output feels a lot like it's one sensor size larger than it actually is. The same goes for Foveon, with reservations (cons in Roland Karlsson's post above).
I'm generally not that interested in 35mm sensors, but it would be interesting seeing one in that format from Fuji or Sigma - it would probably show things previously seen only in medium format.
ZhanMInG12: Actually, the smallest ILC before the A7 is the Leica M9 (which is a shade thinner than the M type 240).
Abaregi: it's still an interchangeable lens camera, which is exactly what the sentence in the review is talking about. The words have clear meanings.
Besides, it's not exactly like the Sony is in the same class as the SLRs...
Indeed! It's almost mirrorless, but there has to be at least one mirror in the rangefinder. :)
But aside from that nitpick: nice review!
Jogger: This is the type of review that I would expect DigitalRev to put out.. the purposely, out of left field, hipster, trying too hard to be different approach to a non-review.. in order to mask lack of competence and indifference to the camera under review.
This is the type of comment I would expect Jogger to put out: the on-purpose rude, hipster and trying-too-hard-to-be-critical approach to a non-comment. All of this to mask the lack of genuine insight and indifference to the camera under review.
fakuryu: Funny, when I look at my OVF (or even the LCD screen when I use my m43) I can see the shot I'm about to take, not light gathering equivalency on the sensor and such. Am I doing something wrong?
>Am I doing something wrong?
Yeah, you're taking photos, what's up with that? I wouldn't show up in DPR forums after admitting that if I were you...
Zeisschen: wait: "It's an ultra-fast portrait prime"
Why is there still no single portrait shot from this lens? I can mostly see pictures from houses at daylight with focus close to infinity and aperture stopped down. Any of them could be made with a kit-zoom lens. Pictures that could need some subject isolation (horse, buddha statue) are not even taken at F1.2. The horse statue shot has infinite DOF, it could be taken with any point and shoot or smartphone. The only F1.2 "portrait shot" I see is the guitar player statue , but impossible to see any details on that surface, I can't even spot the focus point.To me all those samples look like a kid running around taking snaps with the camera on automatic-mode. This is a f**** expensive 1600$ ultra-fast portrait lens, remember? I guess I better look elsewhere...
Zeisschen:Get over your huge sense of entitlement. You got more than you paid for already - since you paid nothing. Yet you're complaining.
Swearing over supposed faults in a gallery published for free makes you look totally spoiled. Also, there are plenty of portraits - you're just saying there are none because you're apparently using your own, very narrow definition of the word.
Consider this: someone shared a gallery of photos, and in return it looks like you didn't even try to appreciate it - you're actually telling people they should not like the gallery. Had the photographer had the same attitude, he would probably have said "Screw those posters, I've worked for days non-stop. Now I rest".
But instead we got many sample pictures, and that was a problem for you.
BorisAkunin: First review I could find:http://www.lenstip.com/394.1-Lens_review-Panasonic_Leica_DG_Nocticron_42.5_mm_f_1.2_Asph._P.O.I.S._Introduction.html
Apart from heavy vignetting (-2.23 EV at f/1.2), it seems to perform very well.
yabokkie:Lenstip liked it a lot, so I guess it has to be "strange". Since well, it's apparently very important to you that this lens is something else than good. It's very expensive, yes, but aside from that I don't see why its high quality is so hard to swallow.
It appears to have awesome correction of coma.
It's a fast, expensive lens with great coma correction which brings all the whiners out of the woodwork. Sounds a lot like a certain Nikon lens, doesn't it? =]
D1N0: nr 7 is a bit pornographic. (or is that just me?)
How are you gentlemen !!
Asylum Photo: Chris Dodkin in the Fujifilm Forums has a much more comprehensive booth review. Kind of disappointing, DPReview. :/
How good are Dodkin's reports from the other brand booths?