Provia_fan: I agree with so many of you. That's exactly what Bresson, Winogrand, Gilden, Eggleston used to say. They packed their cameras and went home saying "Poor phase detection, no face detection and no touchable screen, no HDR mode, EVF too small and too big....can't shoot!" Because they depended on all these things, that's how they built their careers. :P
Sports shooting in a poorly lit gym.... and you propose using a mirror less Fuji...... you must be joking
I own and love the XE1, so probably not quite enough here for me to upgrade now. For those commenting about sport shoot, ffs, this is just not the camera. Dont even bother trying
My one disappointment remains the video mode. Some here dont use it at all and dont care, but in a highly competitive market, Fuji just cant ignore it. I have all but replaced using my 5dmk2 now for travel and walk around and use the XE1 instead, but particularly when travelling I love to shoot video and the compression on the Xe1 is just hopeless. The video looks pixelated and is no where near the quality of video from the 5d mk2 or even from the Oly OMD.
No one is going to buy this camera primarily for its video function. No one would therefore expect to have extensive manual override on video mode, but for goodness sake use a compression that allows us to capture something of value
OMFGNow I truly have seen it all
Artistico: Ah... an ISO dial. The one thing that every digital camera should have, but that you hardly ever see. That's the main reason I miss my Canon G10.
Looks like someone finally uses their senses when it comes to control layout rather than just repeating the mistakes others have made before.
No problem, take my G10 at any time. Worthless pile of junk. Tiny sensor, miniature dark viewfinder. Whats to like ? Like putting porsche suspension on a VW
Opinionator: I think Fuji would be more successful dropping the prices on its APS-C cameras and lenses. They need to attract more buyers who would otherwise forgo the brand for a less expensive Nikon or Olympus. they could be marginalized by the announcement of a full frame mirrorless from Canon. It's hard for all but the most eager entrenched fan to belly up and pluck down for a reinvented E2 or an even more expensive Olympus M1. Not that they're great additions to the growing list of remakes by all the brands. But by now the cost of R&D has been written off several times and they're just suckering the public. None of the manufacturers can burn enough cash publicizing their credo to attract enough repeat buyers. Imagine when Google glass puts the cell phone craze in the bygone era of the rotary phone. Laugh now.
that'll be the day, that Canon does anything radical like produce a novel camera like a FF mirror less. Having been exclusively Canon for 2 decades, I have given up. Too slow to move in the market, and to improvise. My 5Dmk2 collects dust while I travel with my XE1 now
Canon mount, please !I have a cupboard full of Canon EOS lenses, that dont get nearly as much use as they used to since I bought the Fuji XE1, and a BMPCC that is just dying to meet them
NickNock: X-E1 has horrible ergonomics. It looks that they have done worst with this one. There is less space for the thumb and the grip is pathetic. It is such an immature product. May be in 5-8 years they will produce a better camera. It seems that they need to change their designers. I am so happy that I changed my X-E1 for the OMD EM1. It is a real camera vs a bad designed toy.
Well Nick, I went the other way. Not sure what you have been using your Fuji for, but I have had the original OMD for more than one year, and the XE1 for a few months, taken plenty of pictures with each on many trips, and you can't beat the sensor on the XE1. Not sure what planet you are on if you regard the fuji as a toy.
Any idea whether there is benefit in the firmware upgrade for XE1 owners who have these lenses ?
GaryJP: I really sometimes don't know whether it is more amusing or depressing to see the bile some people on DP Review expend on cameras they, personally, do not want.
It reinforces how badly these forums and comments sections are deteriorating. I am not sure why anyone bothers to comment on cameras that they dont own, or use, or have any experience with. Frankly, who would be interested in their opinion ? I have largely given up asking questions on DPR, as more often than not the responses are subjective opinion from god knows who ? The needs of everyone here are vastly different. If punter A feels that the combination of a small camera and lens, with fast autofocus, useless tracking and a small sensor is not for them, but they have never actually used the system, then who is interested in their view ??
Paul JM: Funny camera to place. I have owned the OMD original now for about a year. I like it, but I hardly use it. Great camera, but for me it is neither here nor there. Not small enough to put in the pocket, but for me the sensor is just too small to act as my everyday serious camera. When travelling now, I take the Fuji XE1. In low light, in combination with the wonderful Fuji lenses for me it is a league ahead of the OMDFor serious work, I still use the 5D mk2If I want something casual to put in my pocket I take the RX100So, for me, I am struggling to find a role for the Olympus. Great piece of kit, but I see it as being caught in the middle now. This body looks and sounds great, but it is still bridled with that tiny sensor
Thanks Seth. Perhaps the moral of my story is that if I were to purchase again now, and looking for the 'smaller' system, I would clearly go for the Fuji X system. That is what I use most of the time now. To be frank, the difference in IQ in print, between the XE1 and the 5DMk 2, even in low light, is so small that it hardly matters
Funny camera to place. I have owned the OMD original now for about a year. I like it, but I hardly use it. Great camera, but for me it is neither here nor there. Not small enough to put in the pocket, but for me the sensor is just too small to act as my everyday serious camera. When travelling now, I take the Fuji XE1. In low light, in combination with the wonderful Fuji lenses for me it is a league ahead of the OMDFor serious work, I still use the 5D mk2If I want something casual to put in my pocket I take the RX100So, for me, I am struggling to find a role for the Olympus. Great piece of kit, but I see it as being caught in the middle now. This body looks and sounds great, but it is still bridled with that tiny sensor
no OIS at this price ?no interest sadly. Would love a fast wide prime with OIS to use with the Blackmagic pocket
J D Tranquil: As an owner of a Fuji X system camera, I would like a fast, constant-aperture, zoom lens in the lineup, 24-70mm f 2.8 to be exact. Or even f1.8 like the Sigma zoom (f18-35), that's even better.
The current 18-55 zoom equates to the ff equivalent focal lengths that u desire. Would I trade the current lens for a constant 2.8 if the trade off were a vast increase in size ? Probably no
Frank_BR: The pictures show that those photographers were not too concerned with getting crazy shallow DOF or "artistic" bokeh :-)
None of the shots above would have been appropriate for use of shallow DOF anyway. Just not a consideration with these shots. They are documentary style photos of the time. Nothing wrong with nice shallow DOF when appropriate
JakeB: I'm waiting for the Fuji X-E2 (that would be the X-E1 plus all the new tech currently in the 100S) plus 18-55mm.
A much faster lens and camera with electronic viewfinder for half the price.
Correct on all counts. Although, to be frank, I wouldnt bother waiting. The XE1 is a masterpiece. I am fortunate enough to own a swag of cameras, and use it preferentially over OM-D Oly, 7D canon, 5D Mk2, etc.
Mike5076: Interesting read of the comments.
1st Civil War - Is the penultimate contradiction of terms.2nd Every image showing the atrocities is worthwhile.3rd True Bravery - is awe inspiring - a photographer taking pictures, knowing the great peril of capture - is inspiring - regardless of "the side" they are on. This is not the same as the soldier stoked by hate committing an atrocity.4th In the U.S. the Spanish Uncivil War is effectively unknown by anyone under 50 and most certainly under 30.and lastly, and most importantly, the sharing of an image is one of the most powerful thing anyone can do. Please take a moment to ponder how the speed of shared images has changed the world landscape over the 36 months, 36 years. Images = information and information is power. The more that is shared the better for all of us.
Goodness Mike. The 'penultimate contradiction of terms'. I think you need to pick up your dictionary and confirm exactly what 'penultimate' means. The 'second last' contradiction of terms ? What on earth do you mean ? Perhaps you should 'ponder' that one.
Camp Freddy: super duper, fitted as standard in all Olympus mFT / FT bodies.....
what, wireless timelapse is fitted to the OM-D ? Where ?what on earth are you talking about ?
Timmbits: Olympus needs to introduce a larger sensor pocketable camera, and larger sensors in their larger cameras. The omdem5 is nice, but competition from other mirrorless manufacturers offers larger APSC sensors in the same size/form factor or even smaller than the omdem5. Sadly, Olympus may not have the R&D funds to recover from their strategic mistakes - nor have the will to step on their own ego to admit them. But if they don't bite the bullet, they may have to sell off their camera division or risk becoming another Casio (as far as cameras are concerned)... but who would want to buy it? No one needs their low end, and pretty much the only one that could use MFT is Casio as they are the only manufacturer absent from the large sensor space.
In a word, rubbish. The balance of DOF and IQ in the OM-D sensor is excellent, and perfectly matched to the available Oly lenses. Pontificate as much as you wish, the issue here is not product quality but corporate governance.
itsastickup: Another bokeh-less fast lens for m4/3.
And paying a lot of money for it too.
No bokeh no buy.
wharrrttt ?not quite like using a FF SLR, but there are plenty of these lil' lenses that produce very nice B on a regular basis. Have you actually used any of this equipment ?
Biggiep: Right, and if you created a poll that asked which of these three cameras someone would rather OWN, at least 100% of them would go to either of the full frame DSLR's. The OM-D is a novelty, a throwback to a simpler time that gives older photographers a warm and fuzzy feeling in their private parts. This kind of poll result is not based on substance - just one of superficial amusement.
absolute rubbish. I own a full frame camera (5Dmk2) and the OM-D. Since I bought the OM-D the 5D has barely emerged from the cupboard. The combination of usability, size and IQ is unbeatable. No just a point of 'superficial amusement' but a serious tool.