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Erez Marom

Erez Marom

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Lives in Israel Israel
Has a website at www.erezmarom.com
Joined on Sep 5, 2010

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On Opinion - Erez Marom: Whatever it Doesn't Take article (190 comments in total)
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arik: Shalom Erez.
You posted a very interesting post here and accompanied by wonderful photographs.
However, please allow me to write some comments that may be a little different from your post .
Every photographer can definitely shoot impressive landscapes and nature ,minute drive away or walk away from her\his home and no matter where in the world they live.
Most of the people go through every day by the wonderful views and are not usually see the real beauty in that offer them in the near area.
For example, most of my more well-known photos were taken at distances of less than 50 kilometers from home. Furthermore, 20-minute drive from my house i shot a photo that won the first place in " Teva mecomi" competition and introduced over several months in Eretz Israel Museum.
No need to be a "combat" photographer with endless injuries to bring your audience to great photos.....
The beauty is in the eyes of the watcher.
Rak Tov
Ari Baltinester

Thanks Ari,
I completely agree with what you say, but that's simply not the topic of the article...

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MikeFairbanks: This article can be labeled a humblebrag. It is akin to someone saying, "Women are more than just outer beauty. Inner beauty is more important. And as you can see from all the models I dated, most of them had inner beauty as well, not just outer beauty. Here, take a look at all the supermodels I've dated in the last few years. See all of them? Aren't they amazing? Now, try to pick which of these fabulously beautiful women I had to suffer for, due to their poor personalities. Can you tell which of these super, super, supermodels had inner beauty as well?"

Hmmmm.

Glad you thought my shots were good :)

Direct link | Posted on Aug 14, 2015 at 16:39 UTC
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babart: At first I thought, "Oh, wow! It's great to find a landscape photographer that doesn't carry $10,000 worth of equipment on $20,000 month-long quests for the perfect image where no one has gone before. But then as I read I got the feeling, "Oh. Another millionaire landscape photographer."

I know. More than a little facetious of me. Marom obviously works hard for his images and I've seen his work before. Great stuff. The article was a good idea, but Marom missed the point. It's not effort that most photographers can't expend, it's money and time. I would have really loved this piece if he had taken images an hour from his home base.

:)

Direct link | Posted on Aug 10, 2015 at 11:48 UTC
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well here are the answers to the 'quiz'. The shots I suffered for (physically) are:
1. Right (I had to wait quite some time in a snow storm with no protection).
2. Left (lots of hiking and altitude gain in Bolivia, plus the ice cave was super slippery and I banged my knees multiple times).
3. Right (3 hours of climbing the volcano in 40+ degrees Centigrade)
4. Left (climbing to 5800 meters above sea level is no picnic)
5. Right (hiking on a glacier plus I fell into a melt water pool and spent the rest of the shoot freezing my *** off)
6. Right (hiking on trail and on loose rock, bivouacking in cold temperatures)

Direct link | Posted on Aug 10, 2015 at 09:54 UTC as 19th comment | 1 reply
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BeaverTerror: A very pretentious article.

Yeah, when I wake up tomorrow morning in my sixteenth floor apartment in downtown Shanghai, I'll just casually sit up, pull out my camera, and snap a photo of a flipping ice cave.

Every single one of those images took effort to get to. If you've flown fifteen hours to get to ICELAND, whether or not you had to hike all day is irrelevant. You've spent a great damned deal of effort to get the shot.

Fair enough, but that's not the subject of this article.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 10, 2015 at 09:44 UTC
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babart: At first I thought, "Oh, wow! It's great to find a landscape photographer that doesn't carry $10,000 worth of equipment on $20,000 month-long quests for the perfect image where no one has gone before. But then as I read I got the feeling, "Oh. Another millionaire landscape photographer."

I know. More than a little facetious of me. Marom obviously works hard for his images and I've seen his work before. Great stuff. The article was a good idea, but Marom missed the point. It's not effort that most photographers can't expend, it's money and time. I would have really loved this piece if he had taken images an hour from his home base.

That's a very good idea for an article, but I'd have to think about how to make it about photography as well.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 10, 2015 at 09:41 UTC
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justmeMN: For me, all of those photos were taken in impossible-to-reach locations, because I couldn't afford to travel there.

I don't calculate my trip costs anymore, but in 2004 I did a 1.5-month trip to India, which including flights and presents to my family and friends cost $1500. I think most serious photographers have more invested in equipment than that.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 10, 2015 at 09:40 UTC
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OliverGlass: @Erez Marom
Thank you for this article. Again, do not mind the negativity of some posts. Reading between the lines, we get what you're trying to point out. Please keep posting articles about your thought and work process. This piece of digital real estate is better with it.

Thanks Oliver, I'm glad you liked the article.
I'll keep posting my thoughts and processes, rest assured. People are free to comment as they please but as long as someone finds it interesting (and according to the feedback I'm getting, that's true), it's worth it. I just wish people would actually understand the points of the articles before commenting, that sure would be nice! :)

Direct link | Posted on Aug 10, 2015 at 09:35 UTC
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Eric Hensel: Tough crowd.

It wouldn't be DPReview otherwise ;)

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:33 UTC
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ElviraGrey: The horrible and sad irony here is that he uses Iceland of all places to illustrate the principle that we shouldn't have to go to hard to reach locations to get good landscape photos.

I agree with a previous comment about this article exuding false modesty from every crevice. It comes across as shameless self advertisement more than anything else. ugh

The article talks about physical effort, not the effort it takes to travel to other countries... Perhaps try to read again?

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:33 UTC
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kewlguy: I'm very sure some of those places are probably 30 min drive from his home, hence less strenuous :D

I wish ;)

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:30 UTC
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Photomonkey: I agree that the photographer does not need to travel to an exotic locale to take a great photo but the premise is a bit flawed when backed up by a series of images from exotic places.

By definition the exotic is appealing because it displays a dramatic landscape unfamiliar to the viewer. The Grand Canyon is spectacular but almost no one lives there so by default it becomes exotic. Bolivia is exotic because people with cameras and internet do not live there in any numbers. Same goes for Iceland (the current darling as judged by the countless images in portfolios and camera ads) Africa, New Zealand, India, The Himalayas etc. The fact is you traveled there with big wallet, harvested your photos and came back and uploaded them.

In the end people do not want the familiar, they want the exotic and love to show off.

The article is about physical effort, not about traveling to exotic places. I could've posted images from close to my home just as well. I posted these since they are most representative of my current work, that's all.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:30 UTC
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micksh6: The second shot, 'High on Ice' clearly shows the lack of dynamic range in Canon cameras. And that was HDR according to "hdr7" in JPEG name, which JPEG "cannot be displayed because it contains errors".

Moral of the story - get Sony or Nikon, as later shots with Sony A7R are definitely better, even without HDR.

Gear talk is really irrelevant here, but I'll comment. 'High on Ice' was shot way before the A7R was announced. Had I shot it with the A7R, I probably wouldn't need HDR. In any case, the entrance is blown out by choice. Having any detail there wouldn't look good and wouldn't make sense.
I shoot both Canon (5D3) and Sony (A7R). The Canon is better in all respects but the sensor, but it's an important respect so I shoot with the Sony most of the time. Saves me HDR headache. When I need AF I shoot Canon.
I can't for the life of me understand how this is all connected to the topic.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:24 UTC
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justmeMN: For me, all of those photos were taken in impossible-to-reach locations, because I couldn't afford to travel there.

As I've commented below, some of these places can be traveled to with very low budgets. Travel doesn't have to be expensive.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:19 UTC
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babart: At first I thought, "Oh, wow! It's great to find a landscape photographer that doesn't carry $10,000 worth of equipment on $20,000 month-long quests for the perfect image where no one has gone before. But then as I read I got the feeling, "Oh. Another millionaire landscape photographer."

I know. More than a little facetious of me. Marom obviously works hard for his images and I've seen his work before. Great stuff. The article was a good idea, but Marom missed the point. It's not effort that most photographers can't expend, it's money and time. I would have really loved this piece if he had taken images an hour from his home base.

Secondly, none of my travels are $20,000 quests. I travel quite a lot and I keep it as low budget as I can. Some of the world's most beautiful places (my best examples are Bolivia and India) can be traveled super-cheap, you wouldn't believe how low the living cost is if you're willing to sleep in hostels and avoid high end restaurants.
Finally, unfortunately I'm quite far from being a millionaire, and I don't carry $10,000 worth of equipment. I took images well before I had professional equipment, and it's really not the point.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:18 UTC
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babart: At first I thought, "Oh, wow! It's great to find a landscape photographer that doesn't carry $10,000 worth of equipment on $20,000 month-long quests for the perfect image where no one has gone before. But then as I read I got the feeling, "Oh. Another millionaire landscape photographer."

I know. More than a little facetious of me. Marom obviously works hard for his images and I've seen his work before. Great stuff. The article was a good idea, but Marom missed the point. It's not effort that most photographers can't expend, it's money and time. I would have really loved this piece if he had taken images an hour from his home base.

Hey babart, thanks' for your comment.
First of all, I have to admit that it's a bit funny to read that I "missed" the point" when I had decided that the point of this specific article is physical effort in landscape photography. That's the subject here, not getting images without money and time (which is also important, but not the point of the article). The locations are really irrelevant in my opinion - I only posted these images since they are more current than the ones I took close to home (I have so Israel pics on my website if you wish to look). Regarding time - well, you need some time to travel, yes.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:17 UTC
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Everythingis1: As someone who is disabled I thought this article might be insightful... then I saw the pictures and realized there is no point to this article. I guess what "physical effort" means is different for everybody.

I'll offer some actual words of wisdom to other disabled photographers who were hoping for an insightful article; Macro Photography in your own home.

I'm sorry that the level of physical activity suggested here is impossible for you, but does that really mean that the article is pointless? BTW, some beautiful landscapes around the world are indeed handicap accessible.
BTW2, I've done plenty of macro photography in my parents' back yard, see my website for images if you're interested.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:10 UTC
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marc petzold: Really stunning places to be...i would love to see this with my own naked eyes...but i can't afford it.

Some of the places (for example Bolivia) can be visited on a very low budget. Traveling doesn't have to be expensive, try and see. Good luck!

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:07 UTC
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VidJa: As stated below, all those images in the article are made with a lot of effort and money available. In that respect mr Marom has done a great job. I like the photos a lot...
But....
Would he have pulled that off when he: has to commute to an office job every day? Has had no money to buy new gear for the last 8 years or so 'cause the kids had to go to college'? Had to take care of a disabled partner, live in the middle of an industrial jungle or any other obstakles that inhibit landscape photography to about 100%? I guess not.

I know some that had to cope with issues as above and yet, managed to take some great landscapes.

Mr. Marom, i would like to invite you to post some great landscapes, within 'literally' a radius of one hour from home.....no SUV or motorized transport allowed.....

See the Israel images on my website, 99% of them are within an hour of my home. But that's really not the point is it? The article talks about physical effort, and its point is valid whether I'm in Israel or in Bolivia. I chose to post most current images, and those happen to be from my international travels. That's the only reason.

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:06 UTC
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BeaverTerror: A very pretentious article.

Yeah, when I wake up tomorrow morning in my sixteenth floor apartment in downtown Shanghai, I'll just casually sit up, pull out my camera, and snap a photo of a flipping ice cave.

Every single one of those images took effort to get to. If you've flown fifteen hours to get to ICELAND, whether or not you had to hike all day is irrelevant. You've spent a great damned deal of effort to get the shot.

The article talks about physical effort, not other issues like time and money. The point is valid wherever you are, whether in China or in Iceland. Granted, to shoot landscapes you need to actually BE where the landscapes are...

Direct link | Posted on Aug 9, 2015 at 18:01 UTC
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