3LPC Photography: I appreciate that Sigma steps up so quickly to announce an issue and offers to fix it. I've never seen Nikon, Caoin do anything like this.
Nikon may have some unused or hidden features in their lens chips just so they can trip up third party lens manufacturers from time to time.
MrSkelter: I am still surprised at this. Does Sigma not have an official license to Nikon's lens communication protocol? Even if not and it's reverse engineered why would the Df break compatibility?
What am I missing here...?
I suspect Zeiss actually don't license the protocol from Nikon. They don't need it for AF or VR since Zeiss F mount lenses don't have those features - and the chips on some ZF2 lenses don't work perfectly on some Nikon cameras (you get wrong EXIF data). The latter wouldn't happen if they had a licence and access to the full API.
Picturenaut: We still have 3 vintage Nikon FM-2's in service, and one was used recently at -40 °C in Siberia, because it doesn't fail in frost... The more I think about this Df thing the less I like it. It is simply fake , like a pseudo cuckoo clock with an electronic clockwork. Hipsters, of course, will love it like wearing fake glasses. I mean, this Df thing has AF! And there's no film winder. So you never experience the way of shooting you had with such a full mechanical SLR. I don't think that the old days of film shooting were better, no, but a digital camera should be made looking into the future, not the past.
Plus, I don't think that Nikon today is able to meet the quality of the old FM series anymore. Our D300 died before reaching 90.000 shutter actuations (repair would be too expensive), and it falls literally into pieces after only 4-5 yrs use in rough environment. Our oldest FM-2 is more than 20 yrs old and still perfect.
@ Picturenaut ~ You're right.
I still have an F2 and Nikkormat FTn that work perfectly, though they are pretty battered. These are both about 40 years old and were carried to many remote parts of the world over a period of about 12 years in total using only local transport and a backpack (including a whole winter at -40 °C and below in the Yukon) Also have a lovely, well travelled FM3a, - though that is not so old.
I doubt if any digital camera, even a D3 or D4, will last like these - let alone modern lenses.
ogl: Lower resolution than A7 and D610 and looks weaker than K-3.Not low noise. Not impressed IQ.
Maybe good for nightclubs. ;-)
OvinceZ: Sony is all over the place. Those of us who invested in the NEX7 plus adapters and lenses are not that happy. If we upgrade to FF we have to buy new adapters and lenses. Curses. This is an expensive hobby. Those adapters were not cheap. Metabones almost $500.
The Sony lenses for the NEX7 were unsatisfactory to me. So I had to buy special Zeiss and Sigma lenses. Looks like a dead end street now!
Sony are not on their fourth lens mount
They have only two lens mounts (A & E) and use both on APS-C and full frame cameras.
Digitall: 50mm 1.4 = $1,696.95, Ok...
For the money one could find a 50mm f/1.8 Kern Macro Switar, which is a real collectors item, and sometimes regarded as the best standard lens ever. On a Sony A7 or A7r that should be sweet.
new boyz: Initially I thought this is Nikon's answer to ZEISS Otus, sharp from center to corner. But according to early tests, it is indeed very sharp at the center AND corner, but not uniformly sharp. As Roger Cicala reported in his test - "sort of a ‘moustache’ field curvature".
But like everybody says, sharpness is not everything(plus I don't have a Nikon body and it's kind of expensive).
The Zeiss OTUS is a completely different type of lens design to this.
Also large, heavy - and much more expensive
Wonder how this compares to the Voigtlander Nokton 58mm f/1.4?That lens is the same focal length and speed, but available at less than one third the price. Has nice bokeh too.
itsastickup: I don't understand this lens at all.
At that price it should be fully corrected with beautiful bokeh.
I get that with the Fuji 35/1.4. (Granted it isn''t FF, but it's 50mm equiv in APS-C).
It should be be a lovely (88mm equivalent) portrait lens on DX (APS-C) Nikon cameras.
I'm not sure how many DX users want to pay $1,700 for a portrait lens though.
Eleson: What am I missing, the Sony e-mount 50/1.8 OSS is sharper from the start and up? (Looking at NEX-7 and D7000) ? Yes, I know, one is FF, but the other has OSS...
What should be measured to show what money buys???
If it is a NOCT lens, then why didn't Nikon call it a NOCT?
Yes, I know they say it was "inspired by" their 58mm Noct lens - but that doesn't make it one.
Eyeglass10101: I think everyone is missing a key element (and even DPREVIEW) doesn't list the full name for this lens: It's a NOCT lens. As in nocturnal/night time lens. Yes, it's obviously great for daytime uses, but it's a killer at night. You will see almost no coma. None.
Nikon doesn't call it a Noct
nstam: making cameras: youd think they(camera companies) understand photoshop... of course theyre playing games with everyone. why make it easy to discern what it is; todays market works off selling pushing ideas; isnt that marketing?DPReview knows whats hiding, and we're giving it hits. It would be more fun if they didn't follow the 'rumours' and let us play the 'whats next' game. This is one of the leading websites around the world, and they still play games... what happened to old DPR(edited, grammar)
Maybe Canon have decided to buy sensors from Samsung
Saffron_Blaze: NR is reporting that sales of the Df are very underwhelming and is attributing this to price.
After the oil/dust problems with the D600 and the "left-af" problem with the D800, anyone considering buying a $3K Nikon camera is likely to think twice about "pre-ordering"
I'm interested in this camera ~ but I will wait a few months.
AbrasiveReducer: How hard it would be to make a D710? Just a few more megapixels; same features, reliability and build quality as the D700. And people would know what they were buying. Right now, people are arguing over a camera they have never used because it's not a great "value" which is not the point of the Df.
If you want value for your money, get a 610. It really is a bargain. If you want prestige, or a different camera handling "experience" or to brag about the D4 sensor being in a $6000 camera, get the Df. Or get both, and a pair of D800s.
Just forget about this imaginary "D710" or "D700 successor" - If you're not happy with what is available, Nikon isn't going to make anything like what you want in the foreseeable future.
MyMusin: bias review...oh my!! This is so cool and I don't care about shooting movie capability since a photo camera supposed to shoot pictures not making movie...
@greenarcher02I saw a film being shot with 5DmkIIs - the rigs they were on were absolutely huge, bristling with attachments and screens - and they were using several people to operate each of them.
Sure it can be done - but I'm not sure what the advantage was over using proper video/cine cameras.
photo nerd: this is the worst joke in camera history... wtf is Nikon thinking the price is ridonculously. They did have all the possibility to create a massive Market leader in retro looking camera but instead they made a huge pile of ... *headscratching*.. na I can't say it on here but you all know what I mean.
NO professional uses a Sony camera?
A lot of professional video cameramen do.
The RX1 has won over quite a few pro photographers as a supplementary camera too - as the AD/A7r probably will as well.
gabriel foto: LOOKSLovely camera - in black! The chrome version, I believe, is targeted at hipsters
SIZEWhat most of you don't seem to have realized is that this is the smallest full-frame DSLR ever (at least from Nikon and Canon, what other brands are there?)
HANDLINGTurning a knob is easier than trying to locate a button, pushing it, then looking at bleak LCD while turning a wheel. Maybe not for pro work, not with your eye to the viewfinder perhaps, but in many cases, and in daylight.
VIDEOMaybe something wrong with me but I don't do video. One button less is a relief.
AUTOFOCUSNot sure whether anyone has realised that the 51-point AF module of the D800 or D4 takes up a lot more space at the bottom of the camera body than the 39-point module of the D600 / D610. Dx cameras like the D7100 can accommodate the bigger module because they have a smaller mirror housing -> more space. For the very compact Df, the 39-point module is the perfect (and only) option.
Nikon should offer a service to change the screen
dannyboy5400: I hope Nikon comes out with some faux retro lenses that are overpriced as well.
They should have made some lenses along the lines of Pentax's limited primes to go with this.
dannyboy5400: Less features for more money? Nikon deserves to make money off any fool willing to buy this.
Build quality does not look like full metal like D800 - only top bottom and frame - like D610, D7100 etc.
nathantw: WTF, no XQD card? And SD instead of CF? What the heck?
CF would have been too big