alffastar: Oly never made a micro 4/3 lens with 24-120mm equivalent and 2.8-4.0. Even if Oly makes such a lens it will cost more than this camera and will be both bigger and havier, so I am definitely buying this Canon to use it as everyday camera and also travel camera and will use only my primes with my OM-D!
optics sound "ambitious". Hope they hold up to scrutiny. If the lens is reasonable and the AF isn't too bad, I'm in. I've got an NX and had been holding out for Samsung to release something like the Fuji 18-55 f/2.8-f/4. But this guy is SO compact. I can live with the sub-optimal high ISO sensor, if they can give f/3.8 at 120mm equiv.
No pancake for the USA. Three cheers for the "bigger bigger bigger" stereotype.
Mirrorless Crusader: This is nothing special at all. All they did was make a stop-motion video out of long exposures taken at sixty-second intervals so that you see roughly an hour of time elapse per second. Anybody who's rich enough could do that with barely any skill at all.
please don't feed the trolls, you guys...
BarnET: Canon launches the eos m2 just an added WiFi module and minor tweaks. The comes a brand like samsung for Christ's sake with an weather sealed fastfocussing mirrorless powerhouse. With an f2.0-2.8 16-50mm to boot.
Damn I am impressed with samsung in serious mode. This is bound to get some attention.
I think the weather-sealing is on the bright zoom lens only and meant for a future body, not NX30. That's my reading of the press release.
why don't you guys make the horizontal scale also logarithmic like the vertical axis in these "effective aperture" charts? It would emphasize the fact that 24mm equiv is noticeably wider than 28mm and de-emphasize 100mm being bigger than 70mm. 100 would squeeze back in to where 75 is now.
Just a suggestion...
kimchiflower: Samsung ILC = Pentax DSLR:
[x] bodies well-featured and good value[x] some excellent lenses[x] top quality IQ[ ] available at all good quality camera retailers
@Marty, Most people get into NX because of the primes (size and price). They make sense. Sony's don't.
Next up, the 5DmkII
I just surfed over from the MILC poll. Man, these guys here look ginormous.
shademaster: You know, you guys *could* mention the EX2F from time to time. Spec-wise it's right up there with LX7, and I love mine, and I got it for $220 on special last black friday.
Oops… didn't realize it's discontinued. I guess there's no official "discontinuation" announcement; it is still visible via samsung.com, but it looks like it's not available at many retailers.
Incidentally, there were on-and-off deals on LX7 and XZ-1 at about the same time. It was a "gold box", and if I had been looking on a different day, I may have gotten LX7 or XZ-1 instead.
Curious about why you guys didn't like it.
You know, you guys *could* mention the EX2F from time to time. Spec-wise it's right up there with LX7, and I love mine, and I got it for $220 on special last black friday.
0MitchAG: Why is this in connect?
In 3 years all new digital cameras will have android (or iOS or Windows). Does DPReview get put out to pasture in favor of Connect at that point? ;)
Gesture: "Samsung's lens collection is relatively small at this point"
That simply isn't true. I stopped there. Not to mention that you can fit thousands of legacy lenses to the NX bodies.
See Viking79 below. And it is a very rational line-up that hits a great progression of prime focal lengths. Who else has such an affordable 24mm equivalent, or 30mm and 45mm equivalents.
Denis, the main reason most of us NX users bought NX was precisely BECAUSE of the lenses. For other issues (no wireless flash, general unresponsiveness, poor buffer depth) most of us would have gone NEX or μ4/3. I got: NX200 for $400, 16mm for $220, 30mm for $250, 45mm for $220, and 85mm for $500 (after points back). The 16mm is good and the rest are awesome. NEX would be bigger and more expensive. μ4/3 would be as small but still more expensive. There is no other system that comes close at the price.
shademaster: what was wrong with the PZ 14-42? Could they not fix the shutter-shake =/OIS issues? Seems like it would be as small as the 12-32.
agreed about the 24mm equiv. I think I'd still go for an RX100 rather than this thing though. It IS interesting.
what was wrong with the PZ 14-42? Could they not fix the shutter-shake =/OIS issues? Seems like it would be as small as the 12-32.
fz750: I do wonder what the real market is for M4/3 and even for similar cameras like the Nex range. I live i a pretty touristy (Switzerland) place, so see people shooting lanscapes and buildings and stuff all the time, have been on various holidays or trips this year (europe, switzerland, austria, germany, uk, france and once in Israel) around, but I have **not once** seen a M4/3 (other than my own) or Nex, just canikon D-SLR basically, 98% APS-C but some D6/800 and Canon 6D (ignoring all the mass of compact cameras obviously)
I have a E-PL2, use it most of the time it seems (in preference to a canon Eos, despite missing a viewfinder..) and really like it, so am interested in smaller format camera like the OM-D but wonder who is buying all these M4/3 & Nex cameras?
I doubt my subjective sample is representative of total sales! perhaps they more prevalent in some markets?
Paris last summer: about 30% CSC. All represented (I was surprised by the decent number of Samsung NX's -- which I own and never see in the US). Predominantly NEX. But lots of Panasonic too. Surprisingly few Olympus, but as many Olympus as Samsung. Some fuji (shot with a guy's X100s who was sitting next to me at a concert). Lots of asian faces holding the CSCs.
Regarding price. Since RX-100 mkI is still selling like hotcakes at original MSRP, seems like people will pony up $100 more for the mkII.
Regarding the "it needs a grip" argument. I dropped my S95 on a recent trip and now the display hangs away a bit from the camera with a gap :( There is something to be said for "stick it in your pocket" and there is also something to be said for "heft" and "handle".
Hi Shawn and Richard... " it will be exposed to more light during any exposure with the same settings (ISO, shutter speed and F-number)" should not have the "ISO" there. Don't want to add more fuel to the "equivalent aperture" fire, do we? ;)
shademaster: size/weight/price comparison to a 50/1.8 on APS-C would be interesting.
NEX-3 + 50/1.8 = 314g + 202g = 516g (lens $300) J1 + 32/1.2 = 234g + 235g = 469g (lens $900)
roughly equivalent FOV/DOF, and people really like the Sony 50/1.8. I don't think they'll be able to maintain $900.
right... didn't mean to say they're perfectly equivalent. NEX *is* effectively 1/2 stop brighter, but a bit shorter. Anyway, nobody is gonna buy this at $900... and that's the point I was trying to make. I just got my NX 45/1.8 for $220 and am pretty happy after a couple of weeks: no OIS :( like Sony but as light as the Olympus 45 :)