h2k: 24 mm equiv. at f1,8 sounds nice. But i had (around) these parameters on the G1X MkII – and the image quality was bad. It only got better around f3,5 or so.
The monitor hinging is very unfortunate for all but selfie-enthusiasts. Now there is no angle at all to shoot top-down – say onto a plate of food, onto a low flower or above a crowd. I use this perspective regularly. This newest iteration of the verticially hinged monitor is even more useless than the more common vertically hinged monitor that allows at least some kind of top-down view.
I have no idea why almost every company now abandons the much more versatile side-hinged monitor, which easily gives you many more perspectives onto a subject.
Hi all, thanks for suggesting to turn the camera upside down. I hadn't thought of that (there had been no need so far). I will try that with cameras i have on hand to see how comfortable i feel.
As for top-down photographed subjects, i forgot to mention that i also regularly snap documents, maps, newspapers etc. - not for perfection, more for memory or proof - still it is good if you can hold the camera perfectly vertically over the subject.
24 mm equiv. at f1,8 sounds nice. But i had (around) these parameters on the G1X MkII – and the image quality was bad. It only got better around f3,5 or so.
Lisa Kiehls: Lame interview. Is there any improvement in D.R.?!?
Well i also thought this "interview" is rather dull.
I think you should always mention stabilization, whether or not it is there, and if it hadn't been mentioned, you should say just that, i think.
I think in the Specs list as in the Specs Compared list, you should explicitly mention that the monitor is not articulated, thus denying the photographer many interesting and more unusual viewing angles.
On a live view camera, an articulating monitor is almost expected these days, i think. So in this regard the PowerShot G1 X II is clearly better than Panasonic.
Anyway for me - no articultating monitor and no built-in flash, i feel the cam missed the target group.
Once these are available, may i suggest a polarizer test on DPR?
Wonderful - a super-wide WITH stabilization. And it's really useful to have, despite what others might say.
After reading most of this report, my initial hobbyist's thoughts:
- Why do they build a vertically hinging monitor? Side-hinging obviously gives you many more different viewing angles (even beyond selfies and portrait orientation). Nikon did side-hinging monitors before even on DSLRs, but i note a general trend towards vertically articulated screens industry-wide
- How fast is the live view? (Perhaps not ok to comment on, considering the pre-production status of the camera under review)
- Does the report state somewhere if the camera has touch screen? I think it should be expressively noted if or if not a touch screen is there. If, say, there is no touchscreen, it should be expressively noted too
- Why do you say FX and DX? That sounds like adopting Nikon PR speech. Full-frame and APS-C are much more generally used terms without smelling of brand affiliation
h2k: Here's hoping that OIS comes to smaller phones as well, in the range of 4.0 - 4.7 inches screens, so they would be easily pockatable and usable with one hand (for general use, not for photographic use). Best would be OIS on phones that don't have 20 sensors for blood pressure, step count, heart beat etc. and don't have 20 non-removable "social" apps inside.
Lars, thanks. But on top of the OIS, i would like top photo-technical quality on an Android device.
Here's hoping that OIS comes to smaller phones as well, in the range of 4.0 - 4.7 inches screens, so they would be easily pockatable and usable with one hand (for general use, not for photographic use). Best would be OIS on phones that don't have 20 sensors for blood pressure, step count, heart beat etc. and don't have 20 non-removable "social" apps inside.
attomole: Had to double take I read iOS!
"Had to double take I read iOS!"---same here
I agree that PaintShop X6 seemed confusing compared to Photoshop, but it may be the case that we are all used to Photosho too much.
I think that a person who never handled either Photoshop or PaintShop would not find PaintShop that much more confusing - maybe a little more confusing.
I guess to get better reviews, Corel needs to make PaintShop more similar to Photoshop, just so that the reviewers used to Photoshop won't scoff at PaintShop's "unconventional" solutions.
Of course then PaintShop may be called a copycat.
Certainly in several areas PaintShop offers at least more than Photoshop Elements, simple things like macro recording and curves.
micksh6: No optional large grip (like the $20 MCG-2 available for E-P3, E-PL5, EPL6) = no buy.
E-P3 with large grip had perfect handling, only sensor was poor. E-P5 was already downgrade because of its small irreplaceable grip. Even E-PL5 was better. And now this is step back from E-PL5/6. When will they learn?
I would also need a larger grip and don't understand how they could even offer such flat cameras in the first place.
But perhaps there might be larger grips of some sorts from third-party manufacturers, as in the past?
I was also most disappointed when noticing that there is no built-in flash.
But i also would very much prefer a side-hinging monitor (because it offers many more viewing angles).
But do like a good camera without view finder. I never use a view finder anyway.
Bob Meyer: I always get a kick out of the comments at DPR.
There are those from obvious fan-people, unable to even acknowledge that another brand might offer any advantages at all, and come up with a multitude of ways to ignore obvious facts.
Then there are those who think that a camera is defined by one feature or measurement, be it sensor size, low light performance, AF speed, or something else. This group probably overlaps greatly with the fan-people.
And those who seem to understand that a camera is really a system, made up of many parts, but think that what's important to them in a system MUST be what's important to everyone else, so the opinion of anyone who disagrees with them is obviously wrong!
Sadly, the smallest group seems to be those who recognize that no camera system is perfect, all involve trade-offs, and what works best for you might not be best for me. That sort of worldview is in short supply, even among DPR staff, who always have to call one thing or another "the best."
"I always get a kick out of the comments at DPR."---At first i believed to have read:
I always get a kick out of the commoners at DPR.
I think you should mention the OS right in the front page teaser - even if it is not difficult to guess.
I think the news text on the front page should specify the topics of this specific partial review (for instance stills quality, video handling, or here something like basic description).
tko: Those are terrible! They look bad tiny, they look bad at the enormous, full size of 696px × 415px. Bad cropping, bad tonality, bad sky, everything is just off. Makes me grit my teeth.
Obviously this is a paid publicity stunt for Nokia--why else would we be seeing boring photos like this? All tourists take the same photos of monkeys with cell phones--no skill required. Try posting these on a real photography site, and see what happens.
ANYTHING looks sharp at 696px × 415px! That's 0.3 MP. State of the art 10 years ago was 2MP, and today, we have 1/10 of that? Obviously, there's a reason the full size images aren't available.
Why oh why are we getting such garbage here?
I agree that the title "Photographing Thailand..." is misleading.
If you show pictures of one kind of animal, you couldn't perhaps say you're photographing the country where you met them.
Agreed that "Photographing Monkeys..." would be much more appropriate - and would avoid some complaints in the readership.
white shadow: This article and the photos presented must be a joke. If one has not been to Thailand and is reading this only, you may think that Thailand is just a miserable country inhabited with only monkeys.What is DPR trying to do to publish such a post?
Really, who would take it for representative. If i see a documentary about grizzly bears in the Rockies, i will also not take them for the typical sole inhabitants of that country.
h2k: Some interesting findings here and i enjoyed the comparisons with 2 or 3 different versions of an image. Still i would have loved to see 100 % crop comparisons of D800 vs D810 to appreciate how the "veil is lifted" from the D810's AA-filterless images.
I thought the examples for shadow retrieving (yellow plane, rusted oldtimer) looked exaggerated, slightly HDRish.
Barney, thanks for the hint! (Real life photos would be nicer though :) ).