pppp: "But there's currently nothing to touch it in terms of the size/price/image quality balance"
YES, there is the Ricoh GR APS-C !
Have DPR editors moved from Seattle to Jamaica? Anything Ricoh and Pentax — which in every respect surpasses and betters work of their competitors — simply flies over their heads.
But then, to their defense, GR is touted as a tool for serious photographers.
Magazines like Communication Arts are full of stuff like this, and call this photography, but I don't agree with it.
This is actually digital illustration work, but done through elements of photography. So this is not photography per se.
It is staged, and unreal. Same as life in the movie set is not real life of a person, but staged. And we don't call movies real life.
Photography, likewise, is supposed to memorise elements of reality, or, the truth. And even then, when going through a mountain of negatives that showed truth, photographers would look at all of them to pick one where all nuances of truth were the most obvious and overwhelming.
jonnyjonno: so, what's the chance of a new version of the E-5 being built for all those with legacy 4/3 lenses and preference for optical viewfinder?
Both OM-D and XT-1 are shaped the same, to invoke retro SLR look. It is faux-SLR. Otherwise they wouldn't sell. Neither Olympus nor Fuji have ideas about some innovative design. Sony did something with mirrorless crop, but FF A7 series goes same faux-SLR style. Boring. If Nikon did that, or Pentax, they at least have some credit, for they invented that style, and still hold to some PRINCIPLES in life. They did not abandon something to later blatantly copy it again.
Talk that fantasy tale to someone else, please. You contradict the very reason why Olympus fakes the SLR form in OM-D. They do it to be able to sell cameras. OM-D is a greater tribute to SLR design than what Nikon or Canon do. At least they don't need to fake anything.
They threw though the window lots of good principles. Not everything is in new technology, you know, there are many other issues to consider, equally important. When I recall, that I almost bought an E10 and 50-200 ... Ah, good I did not. I don't trust them anymore.
If you like legacy, Olympus is a bad role model.I just wait when they'll drop the m4/3 and try something "new and amazing".
Zvonimir Tosic: Does not matter what this camera is not. But for that what it is, a beautiful and functional little device. Kudos to Panasonic.
I agree with you. I like Panasonic cameras. I always had their Leica counterparts, but they are just as lovely and easy to use.
Does not matter what this camera is not. But for that what it is, a beautiful and functional little device. Kudos to Panasonic.
zakaria: 36 mp with 8.3 frame/second is hard .file is huge!
People who are really dying for 4K video, go and buy real 4K video cameras. Others who demand 4K video in a DSLR, are only moaning and whining while dying in lack of any talent and common sense ...
Mike FL: "We believe that this new product will meet the expectations of our loyal users."
"loyal users"? No kidding.
I bought a Pentax before Ricoh bought Pentax, and it was not a bad camera comparing to Nikon and Canon.
Pentax went to bad since it was adopted by Ricoh.
Ok, One thing that I like amazon is that users/buyers will leave review/"Average Customer Review", as well Amazon has "Amazon Best Sellers Rank".
Pentax K-S1 is the best example of TASTELESS at the best. NOW what's the NORMAL people/buyers thinking about K-S1?
Let's checking the amazon for "Average Customer Review" and "Amazon Best Sellers Rank".
Check it out, and let us know what do u thinking.
Pentax under Ricoh caters for a more varied landscape of users. That is why they experiment with K-01 and K-S1. K-S1 is a great camera in itself, wonderful sensor and features. But it is not styled in a fashion that DPR dwellers can appreciate. The problem with that camera was its initial price. Everything else is fine.
Zvonimir Tosic: It is the Japanese nuance.
When the gentleman says he learns nothing from competitors, he actually is learning a lot. That is how Canon succeeds to be only imaging company today able to report profit. "Never thought of that mirrorless-fanboys, huh?"
When the gentleman says "they are investigating", it means "it is well under way but we won't tell you that. We'll introduce it at our discretion".
When he says "it is difficult", that means "you actually do not know what are you talking about; there are better ways than that".
When he says "they will see", that means, "Not in a hundred years".
And when he says he does not know which camera will best sell in the USA, he actually said, "We make sure it is not our competitor's".
bronxbombers4, never forget that compact Canon cameras, like S series, outsold anything Sony has ever made for digital. Because Canon was making them when Sony was dreaming digital. RX100 is insignificant camera in the grand scheme of things — reviewers may see it interesting, but Canon can knock it out anytime they wish.
It is the Japanese nuance.
Zvonimir Tosic: It seems DPR is stuck in a loop.
Mirrorless tirades again, with a world leading manufacturer of DSLRs and optics in the world. It seem they, and some users too, don't quite get that Canon helps sell ALL cameras out there. Without Canon, we'd all be eaten by smartphones. Without Canon, there would be no DPR.
Canon has money to buy presence in shops, has money to advertise. Do you believe Oly or Fuji could buy such presence everywhere? Dream on.When you come in the shop to buy a X-T1 mirrorless-looking-like-retro-SLR, you see Canon first because that shop is operational thanks to Canon DSLRs and lenses sold, and then you see some mirrorless cameras and manufacturers, and other DSLRs, who piggyback first on Canon's money then on Nikon's.
Thoughts R Us, pretty much like that. Let Canon collapse a little with sales of DSLRs, and all our camera shopping experience will be tied to international holiday trips to Japan — the only place on Earth where one can see and trial a real camera. And sites like DPR would join SBS (smartphone bloggers society).
Mr mpgxsvcd, they would not. They don't have money for marketing, because they already operate in loss, even when piggybacking on efforts of others.All we would get out of photographic "experience" would be buying online and hoping for the best, and no chance in this world to trial any camera outside Japan.
Still, the camera using them need not be 'mirrorless'. I am all for OVF, however it is delivered.Still, how one makes, with a "flat" surface, lenses of different focal lengths?
It seems DPR is stuck in a loop.
lacikuss: I read the interview and couldn't find any clue of what is coming, perhaps because the interviewer didn't have either.
Instead, how contrasty was the Fuji interview: open, knowledgeable, informative and respectful.
Their target professionals with the same approach they targeted them in the past: 645 system. Now, 67 system is obviously out of question. But professionals out there are not only sports photographers used to fast shooting 135 format. There the misconception starts. Going back in past and educating oneself helps understand things much better.
Imagine a situation when a photographer is in the city, or in a village, has to do a photo session and there is a difficult child in front, that won't move away?We have argued in the Pentax forum that that extra thingie, may as well be PEZ dispenser inside camera, a suitable solution for difficult situations. Not a single camera ever introduced it, and Pentax can get a hint and innovate in all new directions. Better to get away with PEZ, than a with a lost lens cap, or filter, or a broken lens, shot with a sling.
zakaria: Things are changed quickly.from now to the time releasei ncluding /technolgy+prices+moods+market..etc/ so if we are talking about a camera will be released after 7 monthes i thik we may look at the new technolgy not what are available at this moment. it may be need some dreams. my dream camera is k mount with k3 body and a new 50 mp sensor a new metering system..a big bright VF +5 frames /second is good enough may be four frames not too bad .2000 $ to 2300 is good price for me.
Daryl, interesting idea. I also thought of that, but even with no need to move mirror, 36 MPs at a fps rate above 5 is a serious thing — even for direct readout. 5DIII has only 21MP and it has barely 6 fps. Nikon 810 has 5 fps. It is unreasonable to expect Pentax will shoot above that ballpark.
Yes, but that shutter alone in the 1DX costs like a new 5DIII. There are limits, and there is reason which always operates within limits. And reason says that what users want (8fps, superresolution) is fairly unreasonable expectation. As for Panasonic, that is possible without mirror. But then, why bother with photo camera in such a case? Buy a video camera and shoot in 30 fps, 60 fps, 120 fps.