Does not matter what this camera is not. But for that what it is, a beautiful and functional little device. Kudos to Panasonic.
zakaria: 36 mp with 8.3 frame/second is hard .file is huge!
People who are really dying for 4K video, go and buy real 4K video cameras. Others who demand 4K video in a DSLR, are only moaning and whining while dying in lack of any talent and common sense ...
Mike FL: "We believe that this new product will meet the expectations of our loyal users."
"loyal users"? No kidding.
I bought a Pentax before Ricoh bought Pentax, and it was not a bad camera comparing to Nikon and Canon.
Pentax went to bad since it was adopted by Ricoh.
Ok, One thing that I like amazon is that users/buyers will leave review/"Average Customer Review", as well Amazon has "Amazon Best Sellers Rank".
Pentax K-S1 is the best example of TASTELESS at the best. NOW what's the NORMAL people/buyers thinking about K-S1?
Let's checking the amazon for "Average Customer Review" and "Amazon Best Sellers Rank".
Check it out, and let us know what do u thinking.
Pentax under Ricoh caters for a more varied landscape of users. That is why they experiment with K-01 and K-S1. K-S1 is a great camera in itself, wonderful sensor and features. But it is not styled in a fashion that DPR dwellers can appreciate. The problem with that camera was its initial price. Everything else is fine.
Zvonimir Tosic: It is the Japanese nuance.
When the gentleman says he learns nothing from competitors, he actually is learning a lot. That is how Canon succeeds to be only imaging company today able to report profit. "Never thought of that mirrorless-fanboys, huh?"
When the gentleman says "they are investigating", it means "it is well under way but we won't tell you that. We'll introduce it at our discretion".
When he says "it is difficult", that means "you actually do not know what are you talking about; there are better ways than that".
When he says "they will see", that means, "Not in a hundred years".
And when he says he does not know which camera will best sell in the USA, he actually said, "We make sure it is not our competitor's".
bronxbombers4, never forget that compact Canon cameras, like S series, outsold anything Sony has ever made for digital. Because Canon was making them when Sony was dreaming digital. RX100 is insignificant camera in the grand scheme of things — reviewers may see it interesting, but Canon can knock it out anytime they wish.
It is the Japanese nuance.
Zvonimir Tosic: It seems DPR is stuck in a loop.
Mirrorless tirades again, with a world leading manufacturer of DSLRs and optics in the world. It seem they, and some users too, don't quite get that Canon helps sell ALL cameras out there. Without Canon, we'd all be eaten by smartphones. Without Canon, there would be no DPR.
Canon has money to buy presence in shops, has money to advertise. Do you believe Oly or Fuji could buy such presence everywhere? Dream on.When you come in the shop to buy a X-T1 mirrorless-looking-like-retro-SLR, you see Canon first because that shop is operational thanks to Canon DSLRs and lenses sold, and then you see some mirrorless cameras and manufacturers, and other DSLRs, who piggyback first on Canon's money then on Nikon's.
Thoughts R Us, pretty much like that. Let Canon collapse a little with sales of DSLRs, and all our camera shopping experience will be tied to international holiday trips to Japan — the only place on Earth where one can see and trial a real camera. And sites like DPR would join SBS (smartphone bloggers society).
Mr mpgxsvcd, they would not. They don't have money for marketing, because they already operate in loss, even when piggybacking on efforts of others.All we would get out of photographic "experience" would be buying online and hoping for the best, and no chance in this world to trial any camera outside Japan.
Still, the camera using them need not be 'mirrorless'. I am all for OVF, however it is delivered.Still, how one makes, with a "flat" surface, lenses of different focal lengths?
It seems DPR is stuck in a loop.
lacikuss: I read the interview and couldn't find any clue of what is coming, perhaps because the interviewer didn't have either.
Instead, how contrasty was the Fuji interview: open, knowledgeable, informative and respectful.
Their target professionals with the same approach they targeted them in the past: 645 system. Now, 67 system is obviously out of question. But professionals out there are not only sports photographers used to fast shooting 135 format. There the misconception starts. Going back in past and educating oneself helps understand things much better.
Imagine a situation when a photographer is in the city, or in a village, has to do a photo session and there is a difficult child in front, that won't move away?We have argued in the Pentax forum that that extra thingie, may as well be PEZ dispenser inside camera, a suitable solution for difficult situations. Not a single camera ever introduced it, and Pentax can get a hint and innovate in all new directions. Better to get away with PEZ, than a with a lost lens cap, or filter, or a broken lens, shot with a sling.
zakaria: Things are changed quickly.from now to the time releasei ncluding /technolgy+prices+moods+market..etc/ so if we are talking about a camera will be released after 7 monthes i thik we may look at the new technolgy not what are available at this moment. it may be need some dreams. my dream camera is k mount with k3 body and a new 50 mp sensor a new metering system..a big bright VF +5 frames /second is good enough may be four frames not too bad .2000 $ to 2300 is good price for me.
Daryl, interesting idea. I also thought of that, but even with no need to move mirror, 36 MPs at a fps rate above 5 is a serious thing — even for direct readout. 5DIII has only 21MP and it has barely 6 fps. Nikon 810 has 5 fps. It is unreasonable to expect Pentax will shoot above that ballpark.
Yes, but that shutter alone in the 1DX costs like a new 5DIII. There are limits, and there is reason which always operates within limits. And reason says that what users want (8fps, superresolution) is fairly unreasonable expectation. As for Panasonic, that is possible without mirror. But then, why bother with photo camera in such a case? Buy a video camera and shoot in 30 fps, 60 fps, 120 fps.
Vladik: Gosh, Pentax used to make good looking cameras. What happened to them. These things are so ugly!
Actually this one is pretty sexy. It has all the Pentax DNA in it. So it is a legitimate child.
Moving FF sized mirror at 8fps is no small feat. How many megapickles we want .. 36? The camera then becomes ABOVE D4 / D1X class (both have tiny resolution compared to 36 MP), and we want that for $2500 or $3000? No way in this world.
fmian: Full frame camera with a major feature being crop mode for crop lenses.What's the big deal about a crop mode? I can easily create a lightroom preset to do the same thing.Am I missing the importance of this??Enlighten me.
Thus announcement was necessary because the marketing manager, this gentleman from the interview, realised that faithful users are best treated when informed, not relying on wild speculation. Better safe than sorry.
RichRMA: "Targeting loyal customers" is pretty much all the DSLR sellers have left. Nikon does it by continually raising lens prices with each upgrade, knowing certain buyers will get rid of perfectly good lenses "to keep up with the Joneses." But not enough new people are buying bodies so they need to go after "the converted."
Exactly Badi. That is why one, who thinks afresh, needs this FF, two lenses, and start creating.
Indeed? 8.3 fps in the latest 36 MP sensor most likely (to enable decent crop), all for £2300? Tell me who in this wold has that even for £7000? Ask Canon to deliver that, and they will show you the way out. :)
People who truly enjoy photography do not buy cameras or lenses. They buy experience. As long as Pentax provide unique experience, and they do, they will have enough customers to bother about.For others, who cares; they can't differentiate between pedestrian and sublime experience, and are lost anyway.
neo_nights: Compared to some other interviews, this one was a bit... meh!
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