645D (and now same shaped Z) is unbelievably comfortable to use. Because of its unique ergonomics and weight distribution thanks to its elongated body, it is more comfortable to use it than any modern DSLR with a longer lens.
Because it pushes the centre of mass forward, towards the natural *resting position of human arms*. Modern DSLRs and mirrorless, being thinner, push the centre of mass further back, which induces extra stress on arm and shoulder muscles even when camera has a small lens on it.
It takes more stress on your muscles and shoulders to hold a DSLR or even mirrorless in front of your eyes with arms close to body than to hold a heavier 645D with arms in their natural resting position away from the body.
Try it yourself if you don't believe it.
Regarding inverting the 645 Z into a mirrorless;There are numerous worthless mirrorless systems out there, from a tiny sensor ones all up to the FF. Why are you so hungrily craving another one? Why such a desperation, insatiable greed, lack of respect for uniqueness?Isn't there enough cheap electronics to feast from, or you crave something that still dares to stand on its own and resist to the blind fad? It seems many have already become the Borg.
tabloid: I would be interested if it was mirror-less.
In my opinion thats the future.
There are numerous worthless mirrorless systems out there, from a tiny sensor ones all up to FF. Why are you so hungrily craving another one? Why such a desperation?Isn't there enough cheap electronics to feast from, or you crave something that still dares to resist to the blind fad?
This is lovely. And indeed welcome piece of equipment.
MPA1: It certainly makes the Leica S2P look like a dubious choice!!
Leica S system is lovely. Only Leica cannot exercise the same buying and development power as Ricoh can. Leica's M240 does not use even Sony's pedestrian 24MP 135 format sensors, for example, because of the low volume / low buying power. They must resort to elsewhere.
There were whispers during the CP+ in informed circles that Pentax team is working on another camera beside 645Z, utilising this same sensor and imaging engine. Some hinted a camera in the style of the Sony RX1 / Fuji X100, and not at all bigger than RX1. The lens is supposed to be 28mm - 40mm equivalent in the 135 format. Hmmm ...
So DPR editors, the title of the article states "Hands on with the Pentax 645Z". Did you have a hands on chance to record some images with this new camera? Were you allowed to see and download the output (considering camera is not available yet for purchase)?Thank you.
RichRMA: This is not a sports camera. Time for Pentax to go mirror-less here.
Yes, with the thin mirrorlesss you may mount some MF lenses.But you can't mount the same experience.
The foundational trait of photography is being aware, being an eye-witness to a moment.
A photograph is a distant memory of the experience, and not so important immediately, but later, when we revoke the memories of being there, seeing the scene in the truest sense, recollecting all the emotions.
An OVF provides as direct experience as one can get with a naked eye, without translations in between us and the world around us. An EVF of no matter what technology cannot provide such a level of intimacy of experience, because it interprets the world for us. With an OVF camera even if we miss the 'shot' for some reason, the experience of a moment and its essence is still intact and as direct as possible.
Thus even if the mirrorless takes on everything, it should be kept AWAY from 645, as its OVF provides one of best true live experiences remaining in photography today.
Edymagno: Oh my, it's so ugly it reminds me of an old 40's passenger bus. Despite this I may jump in.
It is a look dictated by its purpose and final aim.It's not a final aim or look done first, then all else crammed inside.
Snowbird_UT: When are they gonna drop the mirror. Of all the systems that could benefit of going mirrorless I would think this one wins hands down. They could make adapters for all those legacy lenses easily enough.
A photograph taken is a distant memory of that experience, and is not so important immediately, but later, when we revoke the memories of being there, seeing the scene in the truest sense, and recollecting all the emotions.
An OVF provides as direct experience as one can get with a naked eye, without any interpretations and translations in between us and the world around us. An EVF of no matter what technology cannot provide such a level of intimacy of experience, because it interprets / translates the world for us.
Try a 645 D or Z some day, look through the viewfinder. I think you will understand this point.
Take one good look through the 645D viewfinder.Then you'll change your statement.
Ricoh Imaging's US website is still dormant.
However, their Japanese website is active:http://www.camera-pentax.jp/645z/
Samples are here:http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/645z/ex/
walgarch: I'm a Pentax user and I'm completely appalled by how some Pentaxians are acting. It's as if some people need something to complain about otherwise they're not happy.
I for one congratulate how well Fujifilm is doing. I believe in their philosophy as strongly as I do in Pentax's. But honestly, there are some users who are really killing my experience here on DPR.
Thank you for the review Andy!
If you are appalled by a criticism that asks for explanation of acts, why are you not appalled by your own criticism through derision and refusal to offer any sensible explanation?
Zvonimir Tosic: Wow, totally surprised: X-T1 review comes out in about 2 months. And with no long lashing and reminding needed because of the once made, but hardly to be fulfilled promise.It seems DPR can do anything if they really like it, and makes them enough dough.
We shall ask Pentax for better timing next time then.
Percentages may be subjective score indeed, but the timeframe says there was little objectivity in the attitude. It’s disconcerting. However, DPR loves retro cameras, that is not a big secret. And they can find a handy excuse for anything when they need one.
Wow, totally surprised: X-T1 review comes out in about 2 months. And with no long lashing and reminding needed because of the once made, but hardly to be fulfilled promise.It seems DPR can do anything if they really like it, and makes them enough dough.
Many competent photographers have noted that Nikon peer cameras may indeed subjectively appear to lock in faster AF, but Pentax will most likely produce more keepers with a similar lens. Nikon and Canon, in their mutual race against each other, sacrifice accuracy for the sake of speed and first impression, and leave the rest to DoF to sort out. Because later on, it is easier to blame yourself for misses than a camera that has locked-in fast.
It is a purely psychological game Nikon and Canon are playing.
Pentax, on the other hand, plays differently.
Mind you, the test of the AF is *NOT* how fast camera *appears* to lock in, as some believe, but is it able to produce a sufficient number of usable photographs. Isn't that what should matter? So iIn that regard, Pentax AF does not lack at all.
So instead of asking why Pentax seems "to lag", ask yourself why are you being sold an illusion of speed that sacrifices real matters? If you don't believe this, try it yourself.
Valeriu 64: Congratulation Ricoh, and team Ricoh - Pentax for your succes.Pentax K-3 is the best APS-C DSRL at this moment .
God , bless you
Not quite brendon1000. Many competent photographers have noted that Nikon may indeed subjectively appear to lock in faster AF, but Pentax will produce more keepers. Nikon and Canon sacrifice accuracy for the sake of speed and leave the rest to DoF to sort out. Pentax, on the other hand, plays differently.
Mind you, the test of the AF is *NOT* how fast camera appears to lock in, but is it able to produce a sufficient number of usable photographs. In that regard, Pentax AF does not lack.
Zvonimir Tosic: The GR, then Pentax K-3, and now — early next week — a 645 Z. Ricoh indeed proves they are one of the most exciting, yet most understated camera manufacturer today.
Funnily, not a word about the 645Z on the DPR news page anywhere, despite the official teaser running for a week already on all Ricoh Imaging websites, and despite rumours that the 645Z may be the groundbreaking new camera that will redefine the meaning of the MF and image quality in general.
But, many other photography "news" are presented on DPR, including "possible announcement of a firmware update from Sony", or a "possible lens patent from Apple", or a "Mini M" from Leica (which was not mini M at all) ... are all readily presented for digestion and anticipation.
Better hurry up. 645 lenses in second-hand markets are already disappearing very quickly.
avicenanw: Perhaps next a K3 Mk II with improvements in movie mode, jpeg and WiFi implementation?
Firmware can fix all of that, even some improvements for the wireless FluCard feature set.
Ricoh has made Pentax K-3 a into a very capable and lasting camera, and unlike with other manufacturers, that may indicate that many features will be available via simple firmware upgrade in the future.Hardware is there, sockets and connectors are there, quality of manufacture and materials used is there, and everything suggests that K-3 needs no replacement in several years.
But all that also took time to develop, which many other company would not bother with. My guess is that K-3 was built to last, and that many new and exciting features may be available in the future.