Alex Sarbu: "The K-S1's closest competitors are the Canon SL1 (EOS 100D) and Nikon D3300, both of which have lower MSRPs (not to mention street prices) and are equally capable.""Equally capable"? Even the viewfinders, or the AA-less viewfinder (with AA filter simulator)?Street prices shouldn't even be mentioned when talking about a newly announced camera's MSRP.
Closest competitors in DPR's own mind and their own categorisation of things, not in real life. This camera is obviously designed not to conform stereotyped categorisation.
Price is not a negative point because the cost of K-S1 is not associated with any similar model. The design is all new. Say, Nikon D3300 is cheap because there is nothing in it that makes it stand aside from D5xxx whatever. It is even more dumbed down that any Nikon's model. Same goes for Canons.The K50 was cheap because it was built on K5, K5II, K30, etc. tech. This model is brand new, and it involves all new imaging engine, new parts, new tech, new design. You cannot compare that approach of Pentax with Nikon's or Canon's strategy of putting technological waste in low end products.
Mike Hiran: Some positives: - being able to use my smart phone for live view, change focus and adjust cam settings with an optional Flu Card- no AA with AA simiulator- small compact size- has in body lens motor and compatibility with all k mount with stabilization for all of them- pentaprism viewfinder w/ .95 magnification
Some negatives- more expensive than the k50?! - single control wheel- ergonomics seem iffy- kit lens does not match style of the camera - I think a small prime like the DA40, DA35, or DA21 would look awesome on this, especially in silver
Some whatevers- led lights? don't like em, turn them off
Price is not a negative point because of the cost K-S1 has is not associated with no similar model. Say, Nikon D3300 is cheap because there is nothing in it that makes it stand aside from D5xxx whatever. It is even more dumbed down that any Nikon's model.The K50 was cheap because it was built on K5, K5II, K30, etc. This model is brand new, and it involves all new imaging engine, new parts, new tech. You cannot compare that with Nikon's or Canon's strategy to put technological waste in low end products.
DPR's final words are off the base and common sense, because first the camera is established as a mid-level camera -- as Ricoh Imaging stated -- but then DPR compared it to Nikon's and Canon's entry low-level cameras and their price.
Well, such a paradoxical conclusion. Reminds of the same problem they had with the Q7. Can we expect better from the DPR than its usual guesswork? Is Pentax brain really guilty for challenging common misconceptions about cameras and how they should look?
Put a Canon logo on K-S1, and odes of praise would follow, "Canon decided to put a 100% view pentaprism, removed AA filter, uses brand new sensor and not one 5 years old as usual .. whoa! Camera of the year!"
The trouble with LEDs is that in a month of using the K-S1, in dark, in twilights, in concerts, in birthday parties, doing more work with timer and so forth, you will start wondering why on Earth nobody thought of LEDs before?!
Because on K-S1, LEDs they can be tuned off, if you really don't like their use, but in no other DSLR (or any other camera for that matter), they can be tuned on.
Oh please people, can we stop that silly 1" sensor saga? It is not possible physically to have such a lens and its reach and aperture and keep the compactness. The difference in sensor size is easily overcome with better optics and better ergonomics that will allow you have a camera in hands that is more enjoyable to use, and will make a difference between a camera one can brag about, or a camera that takes the shot effortlessly.
Test shots with Nikon lenses, Fuji lenses, Canon lenses.When will DPR post samples taken with HD DA 20-40/2.8-4 Pentax lens using a K-3 Pentax camera?
Leica is the only camera maker that does not need any logo on an M camera to distinguish it is the Leica camera. Of course Fujifilm must put Fujifilm, because people could be mistaken Leica has suddenly gone cheap, or that Contax has resurrected.
Same for all your mirrorless and DSLRs; only thing that tells them apart is the logo on them, as without those logos they are virtually all identical pile of glass and plastic.
In how many colours it comes? Just one? Two?It hardy looks like a fashionable item — it only looks like a today's mirrorless camera. Perhaps Sony should make a small lens with some interesting finish that can appeal more to both worlds.Leather grip would be a nice touch too. Also engraved logo, not painted logo; gosh, this looks too harsh.
Every time a new Q comes out, it stirs the audience. This release is no exception. A camera that defies standard denominators and common classification, but it is forcefully put in a mismatching box of expectations and among wrong peers -- as we saw from the DPR's own inability (review of the Q7) to group it adequately and assess accordingly. I think it adds to its unique charm.
Zvonimir Tosic: I still have the original Q and I think it is an amazing camera; I have used it to publish photographs and for documentary and research work.I find it more user friendly than a smartphone, and with handling that exceeds many DSLRs. There are many excellent photographers who sell large prints made from images taken with an iPhone. So what is wrong with a Q and its 1/1.7" sensor and an array of very good lenses? Sensor size only matters in DPR forums brawl — nowhere else.
Halfwaythere, because GM-1's only good thing is the m4/3 sensor. Everything else screams it's useless, cheap and too small for a m4/ camera. On the other hand Pen 5 is a beautiful handling m4/3 camera.
Tell your "truth" to Annie Leibovitz, Mr Eletrophoto. Perhaps you can dissuade her not to use iPhone to make images and sell them as works of art. Tell her, and tell them all that you, the man of the DPR brawl, is there to teach her and everybody what is "good".
I still have the original Q and I think it is an amazing camera; I have used it to publish photographs and for documentary and research work.I find it more user friendly than a smartphone, and with handling that exceeds many DSLRs. There are many excellent photographers who sell large prints made from images taken with an iPhone. So what is wrong with a Q and its 1/1.7" sensor and an array of very good lenses? Sensor size only matters in DPR forums brawl — nowhere else.
locke_fc: Sorry, but a 1/1.7" sensor is no longer acceptable. Might as well use your smartphone instead.
Sensor has nothing to do with it.
That new large button is:- Emergency transporter "Beam me up Scotty" button?- Tuner for built in radio?- A simple handgrip?- IR/UV/Phase matter sensor array? - Missing button eye, which, with a new lens cap with smiley on it, will transform the Q into a smiling face of the Thomas the Tank?
RichRMA: I'd have avoided the red on the lens. Reminds me of Canon.
The coating technology is something Pentax prouds itself with. And let's be honest, their coatings and systems of applying coating were patented and sustained Asahi Optical for many decades. Even Zeiss uses their coatings. Now with a new coating that is by far better than highly acclaimed SMC, they needed to brand it somehow. Green ring does not do the justice anymore. What other colours are left: red? gold? blue? pink? purple? white? Many of those are already used by others. Well, except for pink. :-)
And the official page:http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/japan/campaign/20140724/
Looks very, very cool.
The real picture is this, it seems:http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Pentax-K-3-Prestige-Edition-DSLR-camera.jpg
Prognathous: Very un-photogenic, or possibly just ugly. I give it the benefit of the doubt.
Here is a real photo, it seems:http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Pentax-K-3-Prestige-Edition-DSLR-camera.jpg
Battery strap? Gunmetal paint instead of black or silver paint? All right, what about *real titanium* instead of coloured magnesium like in all previous versions? Would not that be the material meaning of the word prestige?