webrunner5: I am afraid with the Mirrorless statement and still not having the new camera out yet they are just WAY late to the dance. I have no clue how they are going to make a go of it in the long run. Having 2 FF lenses is not very encouraging either.
Before announcing judgements, inform yourself first. For example, go and ask in Pentax SLR Forum which lenses now fully cover the 135 format frame. And you will get surprising answers. Those two new lenses are high performance lenses from the view of telephoto designs, AF performance, new motor tech, so forth.
jaxson: An interesting take away for me was that Pentax considers the MF camera as the professional line, and FF as just a progression from APS-C. They only seem to be getting in FF as the low end users don't have an intermediary option before the MF 645Z. Seems fair.
I'd love to see Pentax back on top of something, but of late the competition has been fierce. Sony and Olympus now do sensor shift stabilisation better than Pentax. Pentax has always done solid bodies, well weather sealed well. They still have a place for sure.
I'll say it again though: Give us back (yes you had it right already on the K-5 series) sensor based stabilisation during video mode and you'll have quite the package. Also release this back into previous models too, which are presently only offered the crippled 'Movie SR' rubbish...
In film days, Pentax considered 135 format to be everyday man's camera. One that cannot deliver optimum image quality. That is why they never invested in a professional 135 format line seriously.
Therefore Pentax invested in 645 and 67 systems, to deliver systems that can deliver much higher level of image quality. In advertising of the 67 system, they have named it "the ideal system" for photographers. They meant, professional photographers who care about best in image quality. It came out with 12 lenses ready.
Zvonimir Tosic: First of all, if I were a representative of company that always gets worst of attention from DPR, starting from lack of reviews onto everything else, I would not give them any bit of information about anything. Rule goes, know your enemy first.
Also, I would love DPR spare us mirrorless tirade when conversing with a representative of the company that has practically invented an SLR!
Instead, why DPR do not bother mirrorless-solution-only companies, bugging them with questions like: when will they try out SLR designs and change their mounts to ones with larger distance, in order to simplify their lens designs, introduce native distortion-free images and not images no one can swallow without software manipulation, insist on 100% tele-centricity, considerably preserve battery life with introduction of a bright OVF?
Well, the proof is in the pudding — the success of the 645Z. One cannot get that level of image quality with "quirks". It is time proven design, with no nonsense approach to photography and laws of optics.
First of all, if I were a representative of company that always gets worst of attention from DPR, starting from lack of reviews onto everything else, I would not give them any bit of information about anything. Rule goes, know your enemy first.
Start up time for .. lenses? What is this? Do Sony lenses require cranking up of lenses before they are able to be used, haha? :)And that is new feature of digital photography, I suppose? Incredible.
Nice confectionery DSLR, that suits modern trends. Which means, Nikpn does its usual job of not adding too much into it to make it really stand out and turn heads. It is more important to them to release another update in 12 months. Idea for next year's update: swivel screen. In two years, USB 3. In 10 years, it may be a formidable crop camera.Quite Nikon. Quite predictable.
KL Matt: -3 EV AF was one area (that and buffer, frame rate) where the Pentax K3 clearly had the 7100 beat. This puts Nikon back on top of the heap with its low-light AF on all 51 points and IMO ahead of the K3, but I could care less about 8 frames per second personally so others may not see it that way. In any case, Nikon users probably have Pentax to thank for this bump in specifications. These are clearly two areas the 7100 lagged behind the Pentax K3.Another example of how competition is really good for the consumer and the market, and fanboyism is by definition foolish. If you're smart, you're cheering on the competition of your chosen brand: because the better the competition's cameras are today, the better your brand's cameras will have to be tomorrow.
Nah. It's not -3EV or fps or bric-a-brac that one camera "beats the other". It's the lenses.I personally would not touch Nikon's or Canon's crop lenses with a 10 ft long isolated pole. And that is why most people get Pentax, for the optics that does not exist and is not replicated anywhere else.
Zvonimir Tosic: Nice to know Fuji did not dare to compare Total_size-vs-Performance quotient of their cameras with Pentax K-3 armed with, say, 6 DA Limiteds.
But instead with 7DII which has .. ~8 years old sensor tech and no lenses that can compare with Fuji's or Pentax APS-C optimised primes.
Actually Mr Brendon1000, 35/1.4 could be considered ancient approach in lens designs. Because it uses a film paradigm of limited ISO availability for film, which is compensated with large aperture. Then Fuji designs those so called fast primes because (a) they know their future users come from Nikon of Canon camp and know nothing better, and (b) those dreaming of Leicas but can't pay the price, could find their home at Fuji. There is nothing magical in those lenses, only Fuji knows whom they appeal.
What is point in proving Fuji cameras have AF? Should we marvel at that → look, Fuji has an AF! Wow...Is that a bonus that comes with their cameras? I mean Olympus also has AF. Even Leica on their T series. Casio too.
All right, some will call me biased, but before you do that, please re-assure me with good answers. I am looking at the gentleman's picture above, and in his hands a camera with thinner profile, yes, but with a gigantic lens on it, no smaller that equivalent DSLR lens.
So what's the point he wants to make with this engineering "feat"? That laws of optics always apply and scaling down camera size is a myth? Or that DSLRs are still better ergonomically designed and made for big lenses .. but he won't admit that?
Or that overall imbalance of his design to comfortable handling .. is the new way to enjoy photography in the 21st century? Perhaps following the same route of thinking that the most simple and dumbest of cameras world has ever seen are also called "smart" (smartphone) in this 21st century?
Is there a problem with this 21st century or something?
One rule of Japanese business is never mention your direct competitors. Never, especially in the same sentence as your brand name sake. So no wonder they love people stuck with very expensive DSLRs and large lenses, who want to trade to smaller body and equally large lenses. :)
Nice to know Fuji did not dare to compare Total_size-vs-Performance quotient of their cameras with Pentax K-3 armed with, say, 6 DA Limiteds.
Hah, nothing new. Machine grease and olive oil have similar effects and can be found inside your car, your bike, and inside your sandwich. It can also work as a cool photo filter, so it saves on software.
So basically, going back to film, and include negatives / positives when submitting a photograph. Ah, good ol film; we had much less visual rubbish and forgery in film age — despite efforts to tweak and doctor negatives, it was so much harder and for these types of competitions, not worth the effort.
zorgon: It's an interesting camera no doubt, but this is a startup company looking for investors so don't hold your breath. I do hope this digital rangefinder technology will find it's way onto the market however.
You mean, something like Lytro, who came with yet another very good concept after it was taken seriously by the market?
photogeek: They're a year from shipping and the only thing they have is a render? Good luck with that.
Actually in video on their website, there is a camera in hands.
Cheng Bao: A new comer to a dying market in already-dead niche
I would not say it is dying. It is refining itself. It is only a matter of time when the future kids, grown up on iPhones, throw iToys in the bin when they realise there is something better and allows lots of learning too, yet they were oblivious to it. Smartphones have killed quality content: great photography and great music, for the sake of convenience. The great quality content and the opportunity to exercise brain will strike back.
Make is simple, yes, but not simpler than that. Where is ISO control? At least film Leica camera had a simple ISO wheel on the back. If sensitivity control is not simple and intuitive as shutter speed selection, all this brushed aluminium is a waste.
Zvonimir Tosic: 1st looks like a watercolour painting. Very nice.
1st looks like a watercolour painting. Very nice.